This Makes Us Stronger for 2015

[irishfan]

Youth movement continues. This is the one, tiny positive out of all of this. DD, and Ishaq were all gone after this year. KVR had talked about his NFL aspirations and literally every mock had him going as a 1st or 2nd round guy. Every guy stepping up to replace these 3 will be returning in 2015.

Losing KVR sucks. Big time. It pushes Luke into a starting role, and Butler and Watkins will get way more playing time now. Those three back in 2015 is exciting to think about.

Losing DD sucks. By far our most established target for this season. However, the entire group of Brown, Fuller, Robinson, Carlisle, and Prosise are back in 2015 and should all have a significant role in the offense this year. We should have a completely stacked and experienced WR group in 2015.

Losing Ishaq really only burns us for depth. If you told me that Ishaq couldn't play in 2013, I wouldn't have thought twice about losing him. It hurts us this year, but allows Rochell to start. Guys like Jhonny Williams, Kolin Hill, and maybe even now Blankenship or Hayes will get even more PT.

Now, our only contributors on offense who run out of eligibility after 2014 are Lombard, Koyack, and McDaniel. I'm not worried about replacing any of those guys. On defense, the only contributors out of eligibility after 2014 are Riggs and Collinsworth. Again, I'm not worried about replacing either of those guys.

Just looking at our roster and the 2014/2015 schedules, most people on here had stated 2015 was the realistic year to make the playoffs. Most people had predicted 8-10 wins for us this year. 8 is looking more likely than 10 right now. This completely sucks for this season, but only makes us stronger for the playoff push in 2015.

 

[stlnd01]

That may or may not be. I agree we can survive losing Daniels and Moore, and maybe even Ishaq (though the D Line is getting pretty thin). It's also possible - if past patterns hold - that KVR returns next year just like Golson did.
But waiting for next year does grow a little tiresome.

 

[blueNDgold44]

Between the Cubs and ND I'm tired of hearing "next year."

 

[Mr. McGibblets]

This makes us stronger next year until the next year's nonsense makes stronger for 2016, 2017, 2018......







2029, 2030, 2031......

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

This makes us stronger next year until the next year's nonsense makes stronger for 2016, 2017, 2018......















2029, 2030, 2031......

Depth chart is looking good for my unborn children.

 

[JughedJones]

We don't know if or for how long we've lost any of these guys.

I'm hoping for the best and prepared for the consequences of their actions.

We are fans of a sport that is comprised of young men. Young men are idiots sometimes. At least at ND you are held accountable. If that stopped, so would my fandom.

 

[CanadianIrishFan306]

Depth chart is looking good for my unborn children.

When is Manti's son gonna commit?

 

[Crazy Balki]

No BS right now...It looks like Fitts is all but committed to transferring to ND. This has pretty much no impact this year, since there's no chance he plays year, but moving into the rotation, it eliminates the need for an elite DL (which we were unlikely to get anyway) in '15.

 

[PLACforever]

More bad news, this time for the 2030 class...
http://www.irishenvy.com/forums/notre-dame-football/75338-30-nj-ath-landon-jack-notre-dame-solid-verbal.html

Top 2030 Prospect Leaning Towards Basketball?

 

[connect the dots]

Youth movement and a playoff push are still contingent on recruitment. What effect will this investigation have on recruits? Will this investigation impose uncertain reservations in a recruit's mind set? The present staff(Alford, Cooks, Booker) have been very aggressive in offers to recruits with the skill sets to compete against playoff programs such as UCLA, Alabama, Ohio State, LSU, and Florida State. Will this investigation mitigate their enthusiasm to recruit playoff caliber players? Until the dust settles, recruitment may not benefit from this academic scandal.

 

[wizards8507]

Am I the only one who was never a big fan of DD in the first place? The kid has all the talent in the world but I always felt like he played his games half-stoned. All I ever saw from him was laziness and lack of focus with occasional flashes of brilliance. Give me four TJ Joneses over DD any day.

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[EddytoNow]

These incidents will have a negative impact on ND recruiting. Because Notre Dame has established a reputation for strong academics and enforces the academic code, these and other recent academic violations will be used to convince potential recruits that Notre Dame's academic standards are too demanding. I can hear it now. Recruiters will tell prospects that Notre Dame's standards are too high and that they are doomed to failure if they choose Notre Dame. This negative recruiting is already taking place. The most recent incident just adds more fuel to the fire.

 

[dublinirish]

yeah no more borderline recruits methinks

 

[wizards8507]

These incidents will have a negative impact on ND recruiting. Because Notre Dame has established a reputation for strong academics and enforces the academic code, these and other recent academic violations will be used to convince potential recruits that Notre Dame's academic standards are too demanding. I can hear it now. Recruiters will tell prospects that Notre Dame's standards are too high and that they are doomed to failure if they choose Notre Dame. This negative recruiting is already taking place. The most recent incident just adds more fuel to the fire.

I really really doubt it has any impact whatsoever on recruits who don't want to go to class because we aren't getting those kids in the first place. A kid who chooses not to come to ND because he thinks it's the wrong academic environment is probably correct, frankly, so 1) we're probably not targeting him, 2) he wouldn't pick us even if we were, and 3) the "negative recruiting" (ND is a real school) is true and a good thing, so let them say it. All of this was just as true before this incident as it is now.

In other words, I don't think it's a big tragedy that it's tough for us to land dumb, lazy, or dishonest recruits.

 

[BGIF]

I really really doubt it has any impact whatsoever on recruits who don't want to go to class because we aren't getting those kids in the first place. A kid who chooses not to come to ND because he thinks it's the wrong academic environment is probably correct, frankly, so 1) we're probably not targeting him, 2) he wouldn't pick us even if we were, and 3) the "negative recruiting" (ND is a real school) is true and a good thing, so let them say it. All of this was just as true before this incident as it is now.

In other words, I don't think it's a big tragedy that it's tough for us to land dumb, lazy, or dishonest recruits.

HEAR! HEAR!

 

[IrishSteelhead]

I feel like we endured a similar narrative last season with the "Tommy instead of Golson, NO PROBLEM!" movement.

This absolutely positively fucking sucks, any way you slice it or try to sugarcoat it, but I will agree it's far from a season ender.

 

[BGIF]

These incidents will have a negative impact on ND recruiting. Because Notre Dame has established a reputation for strong academics and enforces the academic code, these and other recent academic violations will be used to convince potential recruits that Notre Dame's academic standards are too demanding. I can hear it now. Recruiters will tell prospects that Notre Dame's standards are too high and that they are doomed to failure if they choose Notre Dame. This negative recruiting is already taking place. The most recent incident just adds more fuel to the fire.

Yawn.

The annual GSR's Reports have documented that as a lie since they were first published.

There was negative recruiting 50 years before Eddy fell off the train.

 

[ginman]

I think any time a team has offseason problems on an annual basis it is a bad thing and hurts the program moving forward.

 

[koonja]

Yawn.

The annual GSR's Reports have documented that as a lie since they were first published.

There was negative recruiting 50 years before Eddy fell off the train.

Most people ease back into things when they return to the board.

BGIF? Hell no, lol.

 

[RyCo1983]

We don't know if or for how long we've lost any of these guys.

I'm hoping for the best and prepared for the consequences of their actions.

We are fans of a sport that is comprised of young men. Young men are idiots sometimes. At least at ND you are held accountable. If that stopped, so would my fandom.

This times infinity.

 

[Irishnuke]

More bad news, this time for the 2030 class...
http://www.irishenvy.com/forums/notre-dame-football/75338-30-nj-ath-landon-jack-notre-dame-solid-verbal.html

Top 2030 Prospect Leaning Towards Basketball?

I knew we shouldn't have taken his verbal.

 

[no.1IrishFan]

More bad news, this time for the 2030 class...
http://www.irishenvy.com/forums/notre-dame-football/75338-30-nj-ath-landon-jack-notre-dame-solid-verbal.html

Top 2030 Prospect Leaning Towards Basketball?

Also, how did he pay for that Jeep?

 

[Irish Insanity]

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[ulukinatme]

Don't worry, guys. I've got one son that will be committing in 16 years and another that'll commit in 18 years. One will fill in at RT, and his brother will play TE, so we got that going for us. 2032 will be our year!

 

[Crazy Balki]

These incidents will have a negative impact on ND recruiting. Because Notre Dame has established a reputation for strong academics and enforces the academic code, these and other recent academic violations will be used to convince potential recruits that Notre Dame's academic standards are too demanding. I can hear it now. Recruiters will tell prospects that Notre Dame's standards are too high and that they are doomed to failure if they choose Notre Dame. This negative recruiting is already taking place. The most recent incident just adds more fuel to the fire.

I'm pretty sure this was already the case. No recruit looking at ND for realsies is gonna think, "their academics are gonna be a walk in the park". Those who commit to ND generally know what they're getting into.

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

Don't worry, guys. I've got one son that will be committing in 16 years and another that'll commit in 18 years. One will fill in at RT, and his brother will play TE, so we got that going for us. 2032 will be our year!

Thanks for doing your part. I can see them getting taunting flags now: "fuck you. You looking at me?"

 

[BobD]

Makes us stronger next year? You believed if you waited sex was gonna be better too, didn't ya?

 

[ulukinatme]

Thanks for doing your part. I can see them getting taunting flags now: "fuck you. You looking at me?"

Haha, nah, the men in my family aren't like that. These boys will pancake you to the ground and let their actions speak for themselves. My first son was over 11 pounds at birth, and my second was 9 1/2 lbs, both in the top 5% in height too, so they're gonna be monsters on the line.

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

Haha, nah, the men in my family aren't like that. These boys will pancake you to the ground and let their actions speak for themselves. My first son was over 11 pounds at birth, and my second was 9 1/2 lbs, both in the top 5% in height too, so they're gonna be monsters on the line.

That's not a son, it's a turkey.

 

[Irish#1]

Don't worry, guys. I've got one son that will be committing in 16 years and another that'll commit in 18 years. One will fill in at RT, and his brother will play TE, so we got that going for us. 2032 will be our year!

You guys got nothing on me. My grandson committed to the Irish as soon as he popped out. Only seven more years to go.