Me too. What I wanted was to talk about what could be done to discriminate more carefully etching a divider between those that were going to break the law, and those that were going to protect themselves and their loved ones first.
My preambles and my re-ambles were all about guiding the conversation.
I mentioned this case because I thought it was a pretty clear case of a defendant claiming to be protecting himself when there is no evidence that there was a gun, or anything other than a big mouth aimed in his direction. I bet a dime to a dollar you and I [both individually and if together] in that situation would have been able to retreat successfully without shots being fired. And remember the girlfriend who was in the store at the time buying wine never saw a gun, or heard him even mention anything to the affect that their may have been a gun present. Nor does any other witness claim that. I am taking this case as a perfect example of an unjustified shooting by someone that shouldn't be allowed to carry a gun.
I have a cousin that was part of a two man crew during the Toledo riots of the '60's tens of blocks burned. The scope of the destruction was so bad that everything was razed, and never rebuilt. In the midst of this when a squad car was surrounded or overturned, my cousin and his partner would go in. They truly were Irish whales. With kid leather gloves, saps, and blackjacks, they walked into mobs, to relieve their brothers. Being younger, I heard stories about their exploits.
In fact, I had a girl that I wanted to date in high school, several years later, and her father was one of the cops my cousin rescued. I was in like Flint, man! The girls dad told me that they came through the crowds and they parted like the red sea. Someone didn't get out of the way quick enough, they were physically launched. When my cousin and I were talking of this years later, I asked him how many shots he had to fire. He said none.
And this follows my experience after being under fire, sometimes you have an idea where it is coming from, and sometimes you don't. You rarely see it. But you are right BGIF, blowing off all of your ammunition isn't a good thing, not at all.
My preconceived thinking is that anyone who responds to another, without any physical evidence of the other attempting grievous harm, by discharged a weapon precipitously, is one of those I want to see the right to conceal and carry taken away from.
So then, without debating details of a case we may never know, and without arguing over an interpretation of the constitution, how can we set up a system that keeps citizens safe and does not interfere with our rights?