'14 MI DE Malik McDowell (Momma Has To Put Up With MSU)

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while i hope that your intuition is correct, i think that we are to late to the party for malik. Just way to much ground to make up on others that have been recruiting him all year (sparty/buckeyes)

Normally, I'd agree. But Malik has strangely been flying under the radar for a borderline 5-star. ND has more to offer him than Michigan or Michigan State. OSU is not even in contention for him. This is pretty much a ND/MSU race now.
 

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Please lord if we could somehow get McDowell and Sawyers to end this class.
 

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Normally, I'd agree. But Malik has strangely been flying under the radar for a borderline 5-star. ND has more to offer him than Michigan or Michigan State. OSU is not even in contention for him. This is pretty much a ND/MSU race now.
i think in terms of having more to offer the poster meant something along these lines. If he is looking for a school that has high academics and a winning football team than ND has the advantage over MSU and UofM when you combine all of the elements. We have a superior academic reputation to that of MSU, not saying that MSU is a bad school, and it really helps that U of M had a very subpar year on the football side of things.
 

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i think in terms of having more to offer the poster meant something along these lines. If he is looking for a school that has high academics and a winning football team than ND has the advantage over MSU and UofM when you combine all of the elements. We have a superior academic reputation to that of MSU, not saying that MSU is a bad school, and it really helps that U of M had a very subpar year on the football side of things.

Coffee is brewing for BVG. We'll see if he'll be able to drink a cup. Always Be Closing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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On a Football decision MSU will have the upper hand right now.

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On a Football decision MSU will have the upper hand right now.

With the assortment of athletes being "suspended" due to academics, it would be hard not to go to another school. ND is so hard academically, it is not for everyone. Not saying Malik isn't capable, but I am sure other coaching staffs are putting that in many recruits ears. I know I will get blasted for this comment, but I just had to put it down.
 

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With the assortment of athletes being "suspended" due to academics, it would be hard not to go to another school. ND is so hard academically, it is not for everyone. Not saying Malik isn't capable, but I am sure other coaching staffs are putting that in many recruits ears. I know I will get blasted for this comment, but I just had to put it down.

2 kids in 2 seasons. High profile? Sure. But it's actually far less than the # of kids who fail out at most schools yearly. All our coaches have to do is point at graduation rates and that negative recruiting falls apart. Really not an issue at all.
 

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Normally, I'd agree. But Malik has strangely been flying under the radar for a borderline 5-star. ND has more to offer him than Michigan or Michigan State. OSU is not even in contention for him. This is pretty much a ND/MSU race now.

247 lists him with a Jan. 31 OV to OSU.
Malik McDowell

I'd be more worried about them than Sparty, myself. We need to flip that OV to South Bend.
 
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I thought I had seen somewhere in this thread a long time ago a comparison of McDowell to Tuitt. May not be a bad comp. I didn't realize that Malik was that much bigger at this stage.

From Tuitt's thread:
Ht: 6-5
Wt: 260
40: 4.8
Bench: 325
Squat: 425
GPA: 3.4

STATS
'09: 56 Tackles, 24 TFLs, 10 Sacks, 4 Forced Fumbles, 2 Fumbles Recovered

RANKING
Rivals: , #2 SDE, Rating 6.0, National #22, Rivals 100
Scout: , , #10 DE
ESPN: , #10 DE, Grade 81, National #90, ESPN 150

From front page of this thread:

Ht: 6-6
Wt: 292
40:
Shuttle:
Vert:
GPA:


Rankings:
247: #2 SDE #38 OVR (97 Rating)
Rivals: #4 SDE #33 OVR
ESPN: #5 DT #60 OVR
Scout: #7 DE
247Comp: #3 SDE #33 OVR (.9924 Rating)
 
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I thought I had seen somewhere in this thread a long time ago a comparison of McDowell to Tuitt. May not be a bad comp. I didn't realize that Malik was that much bigger at this stage.

Malik was listed at 260 earlier in the cycle as well, but he has apparently jumped 30 pounds since then. I don't believe by the end of the cycle that Tuitt was only 260 either though.
 

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I thought I had seen somewhere in this thread a long time ago a comparison of McDowell to Tuitt. May not be a bad comp. I didn't realize that Malik was that much bigger at this stage.

From Tuitt's thread:
Ht: 6-5
Wt: 260
40: 4.8
Bench: 325
Squat: 425
GPA: 3.4

STATS
'09: 56 Tackles, 24 TFLs, 10 Sacks, 4 Forced Fumbles, 2 Fumbles Recovered

RANKING
Rivals: , #2 SDE, Rating 6.0, National #22, Rivals 100
Scout: , , #10 DE
ESPN: , #10 DE, Grade 81, National #90, ESPN 150

From front page of this thread:

Ht: 6-6
Wt: 292
40:
Shuttle:
Vert:
GPA:


Rankings:
247: #2 SDE #38 OVR (97 Rating)
Rivals: #4 SDE #33 OVR
ESPN: #5 DT #60 OVR
Scout: #7 DE
247Comp: #3 SDE #33 OVR (.9924 Rating)


Tuitt showed up on campus 6'6 300 lbs. his offseason work before arriving was sick!

Also tuitt s sr yr tape is 1000 times better than malik. But hey not everyone is a nfl pro bowl caliber player. I would love to add malik and see him more in the Jarron jones type.
 

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Michigan (Mattison) is at his high school right now checking in on him and Lawrence Marshall.
 

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Michigan (Mattison) is at his high school right now checking in on him and Lawrence Marshall.

OSU is at Cass Tech (Detroit) today, wouldn't be surprised if they stopped by Malik too.
 

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Anyone know where our coaches are today?

BK, Elston, Hiestand and BVG are in the Northeast. Hayes and Nelson are receiving visits, and they may check in on '15 prospects as well.

Cooks is in Texas, visiting Watkins (and maybe Hill and Blankenship?)

Denbrock is in Cali, visiting Dickerson today and then our other Cali targets the rest of the weekend

Alford is in Florida, visiting IM today and presumably other Florida targets the rest of the weekend (Holmes, Yeargin, etc).

BVG and Elston are coming back from the Northeast tomorrow, and then are visiting the Midwest prospects (Morgan, Sykes, Tranquill, Kizer, etc)

BK is going to visit Mustipher with Booker after Nelson and Hayes, and then head to TN to visit Bars and probably Sawyers.
 

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BK, Elston, Hiestand and BVG are in the Northeast. Hayes and Nelson are receiving visits, and they may check in on '15 prospects as well.

Cooks is in Texas, visiting Watkins (and maybe Hill and Blankenship?)

Denbrock is in Cali, visiting Dickerson today and then our other Cali targets the rest of the weekend

Alford is in Florida, visiting IM today and presumably other Florida targets the rest of the weekend (Holmes, Yeargin, etc).

BVG and Elston are coming back from the Northeast tomorrow, and then are visiting the Midwest prospects (Morgan, Sykes, Tranquill, Kizer, etc)

BK is going to visit Mustipher with Booker after Nelson and Hayes, and then head to TN to visit Bars and probably Sawyers.

Thanks, reps.
 

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@TomVH: Southfield HS, Malik McDowell, Chukwuma Okorafor & Lawrence Marshall, have had LSU, OSU, UofM, MSU, Iowa & BC coaches in today.
 

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These last few pages about MSU have probably had more talk about MSU than all other talk about MSU on the internet...combined.


Move along.

Anything on Malik???????????????

Fucking thank-you.

I'll ask again: do we have any chance with Mailk?
 

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We will see. An upbeat father gives you the feel goods, but it is inevitably all about what Malik wants to do.

You might say we're behind in his recruitment, but honestly, Michigan and MSU haven't taken advantage of it at all. IMO, McDowell's dad being in ND's corner is the biggest thing to happen in his recruitment since ND backed off a while ago.
 

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You might say we're behind in his recruitment, but honestly, Michigan and MSU haven't taken advantage of it at all. IMO, McDowell's dad being in ND's corner is the biggest thing to happen in his recruitment since ND backed off a while ago.

Shhhhh.....We didn't back off, there was just a bit of confusion when Bobby D left.
 

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He will be a 5:s: on Monday

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Rivals100SneakPeek&src=hash">#Rivals100SneakPeek</a>
5-star DE Malik McDowell (<a href="https://twitter.com/D1_LEEK">@D1_LEEK</a>)
NR: 26
PR: 33 (⬆️7)
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<a href="http://t.co/Xxu8TEpBYn">http://t.co/Xxu8TEpBYn</a></p>— Rivals.com (@Rivals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Rivals/statuses/424612287802912768">January 18, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>McDowell always had 5* tools but needed to see him put them into play consistently. He did that the last 6 mos. - <a href="https://twitter.com/JoshHelmholdt">@JoshHelmholdt</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Rivals100&src=hash">#Rivals100</a></p>— Rivals.com (@Rivals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Rivals/statuses/424613546245115905">January 18, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Went ahead and gave him the 5th star and updated overall ranking. Don't know his position ranking though. We will see on Monday.
 
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