'14 OH DT Daniel Cage (Notre Dame Signee)

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How is his competition?

Potentially another player with a famous dad.




Nicolas Cage

Winton Woods is a DII school in Cinci. They play a schedule that consists of both DII and DI schools. They hold their own against the likes of Moeller, ST X, and Colerain on a regular basis and won state a few years ago. Competition is good.
 

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So it sounds like Diaco's position criteria really put the kibosh on a lot of these kids' recruitments. Since his departure, there have been numerous examples of guys the staff is currently recruiting (or could have recruited) but Diaco didn't give the OK. Interesting.

And the dropping of others...
 

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Size-Strength-Speed
Adequate size on paper, but comes across as a thickly-built kid with good playing strength and could still pack on some additional size with time in a college weight program.
Versus the Run
Can be a tough interior run defender. Needs to be more consistent but he can be explosive. Gets tall at times, but overall does a real good job of firing off the ball with low pad level and at times, when he can time it up well, he can blow through a blocker's shoulder and disrupt with some penetration. More consistently he is a tough, phone booth type player who can fire out and gains physical leverage, uncoil, stand a blocker up and hold his ground. With his low pads and explosive hip roll he can also handle himself against the double team. Flashes the ability to shoot his hands and when he does has the upper body and hand strength to quickly extend and violently shed, but needs to improve hand usage as he is pretty consistent with pad level, but loses his hands much more frequently. Really only gets pushed off the ball when he gets a little lazy with technique and pops up and is not active with his hands. A physical wrap-up tackler with the ability to deliver a jarring pop.
Pass Rush Skills
Has bull rush ability, but needs to develop further as a pass rusher and more productive defending the run at this stage. Needs to develop his hand usage more, but with a bull rush and development of a power rip and push-pull and more size, he can be a solid interior rusher.
Toughness/Motor
Can be a tough customer. When he comes across the line he can stay square with good short-area lateral movement to keep himself in position to play the ball and be active between the tackles. Gives effort with good pursuit angles, but displays just adequate range and change-of-direction for his size.
Bottom Line
Cage, with some additional size and further technical development, can be a good, tough and physical presence in the trenches for a defense.

according to espn...offers also from arky, florida,neb,vandy,tenn
 

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With all of the DT's we're offering now, I guess we're now working on Plan B!

As mentioned before, I like the idea that MSU offered. According to everything written on here, it sounds like he may be able to get to around 325-330lb.
 

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Damnit, I opened that thread up and posted in there.

Anywho, this Cage kis is the #1 DT in Ohio and it's not even close. He's my top want out of the group of new DTs.

Do you know whats up with him not having an OSU offer?
 

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in regards to competition...i would say he plays pretty top notch in the state of ohio.

his school is Division 2 (second biggest in Ohio) and they play in Southwest Ohio, which imo is the most competitive region of football in ohio, especially for the larger schools. some would argue the NE region is better, but i tend to favor SW.

team has put out several D 1 prospects over the past few years and has an OL that's a jr that may be the best OL in the state for 2015.
 

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in regards to competition...i would say he plays pretty top notch in the state of ohio.

his school is Division 2 (second biggest in Ohio) and they play in Southwest Ohio, which imo is the most competitive region of football in ohio, especially for the larger schools. some would argue the NE region is better, but i tend to favor SW.

team has put out several D 1 prospects over the past few years and has an OL that's a jr that may be the best OL in the state for 2015.

aha the Northern Ohio mafia on here won't like reading this! :-D
 
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aha the Northern Ohio mafia on here won't like reading this! :-D

Anywhere in Ohio, with a top program, is fine because with today's scheduling you play schools from all over. It isn't like Texas, distance wise. My old high school plays in a league which three of its opponents are more than 45 miles distant and has played schools from Indy, Detroit, Cleve, Akron, Columbus, Cinci and so on.

This kid is legit!

A few years ago Suburban Columbus was the best overall area (multiple leagues.) Cleveland has had a resurgence. (Witness the fall of St Iggy, the other teams have gotten better, including public schools like Mentor, and Valley Forge.

Northwest Ohio has always been an anomaly; twenty percent of Toledo and suburban football has always been really tough. The rest has been very pedestrian. And Northwest Ohio has had some incredible programs in some of the outlying communities. Patrick Henry, Fostoria, Clyde, Tiffin, all come to mind. (Fostoria in their heyday with Woodson and crew as Division II or III in Ohio, could have competed anywhere in the country!)

From my era where NWO football became too diffuse, the schools apparently learned their lesson. (I don't seriously believe that this was any more than school districts planning with their resources.) But schools have become more concentrated. Some schools like Central Catholic have had a resurgence. The fact is when you look at the quarter finalists in the top three divisions in the state, they have more than the (population percentage share from NWO). But it is much sparser and smaller than all other parts of the state. With Cleveland-Akron to the east, Columbus metro to the central and south, and Cinci-Dayton to the southwest. The only large city in NWO is Toledo, #5 in Ohio, behind Dayton, just ahead of Akron.

I think over-all the other major metro areas as a whole are always better than NWO. But the toughest teams from NWO fare well against the top teams from almost anywhere else in the state.

Thus says the Black Swamp Fianna. Sort of the NWO Mafia. (There is a reason NWO was settled last.)
 
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Do you know whats up with him not having an OSU offer?

I would have to dig into it a little bit, but I don't remember any of Winton Woods' top players seriously considering OSU. It's strange really.
 

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Do you know whats up with him not having an OSU offer?

OSU typically doesn't do that great in the Cinci territory. They played their Spring game there last season at Paul Brown in an effort to help strengthen recruiting there (And because the Shoe was having some work done). They've got about 5 guys from Cinci or the surrounding area on their roster. Most of their guys seem to come from central Ohio, northern Ohio, or out of state.

There were a number of times we wrapped up the few targets they went after in this area. Things have been kind of quiet in Cinci for us the last two years though. I do know that Tubberville burned some bridges with high schools in the area when he came on board at Cinci, maybe that leads to us picking up more Cinci kids.
 
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OSU typically doesn't do that great in the Cinci territory. They played their Spring game there last season at Paul Brown in an effort to help strengthen recruiting there (And because the Shoe was having some work done). They've got about 5 guys from Cinci or the surrounding area on their roster. Most of their guys seem to come from central Ohio, northern Ohio, or out of state.

There were a number of times we wrapped up the few targets they went after in this area. Things have been kind of quiet in Cinci for us the last two years though. I do know that Tubberville burned some bridges with high schools in the area when he came on board at Cinci, maybe that leads to us picking up more Cinci kids.

True, but you would think that with Kerry Coombs(former HS coach in Cinci) at OSU recruiting you would think more Cinci kids would be on the radar.
 

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True, but you would think that with Kerry Coombs(former HS coach in Cinci) at OSU recruiting you would think more Cinci kids would be on the radar.

You would think so, but roughly 5 Cinci guys on their roster in 4 years of recruiting isn't really a large number considering OSU is the largest program in the state. Not counting our recent transfers, we have roughly the same number of Cinci kids on our roster, and we haven't really picked up any the last 2 cycles (3 if we don't have one this year).
 
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According to BP he has a visit scheduled with OSU later this month. No offer still, but they've been keeping in contact with him over the last year.

Watching his film, he deals with cut blocks well it seems. Pushes guy down, steps over, makes oncoming tackle. He could save our knees against Navy :laugh:
 
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You would think so, but roughly 5 Cinci guys on their roster in 4 years of recruiting isn't really a large number considering OSU is the largest program in the state. Not counting our recent transfers, we have roughly the same number of Cinci kids on our roster, and we haven't really picked up any the last 2 cycles (3 if we don't have one this year).

Didn't realize it was that low. That is pathetic.
 

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Winton Woods is a DII school in Cinci. They play a schedule that consists of both DII and DI schools. They hold their own against the likes of Moeller, ST X, and Colerain on a regular basis and won state a few years ago. Competition is good.

in regards to competition...i would say he plays pretty top notch in the state of ohio.

his school is Division 2 (second biggest in Ohio) and they play in Southwest Ohio, which imo is the most competitive region of football in ohio, especially for the larger schools. some would argue the NE region is better, but i tend to favor SW.

team has put out several D 1 prospects over the past few years and has an OL that's a jr that may be the best OL in the state for 2015.

His tape looked very good playing that kind of competition. Kinda surprised he's not committed anywhere yet. Reel 'em in.
 

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Anywhere in Ohio, with a top program, is fine because with today's scheduling you play schools from all over. It isn't like Texas, distance wise. My old high school plays in a league which three of its opponents are more than 45 miles distant and has played schools from Indy, Detroit, Cleve, Akron, Columbus, Cinci and so on.

This kid is legit!

A few years ago Suburban Columbus was the best overall area (multiple leagues.) Cleveland has had a resurgence. (Witness the fall of St Iggy, the other teams have gotten better, including public schools like Mentor, and Valley Forge.

Northwest Ohio has always been an anomaly; twenty percent of Toledo and suburban football has always been really tough. The rest has been very pedestrian. And Northwest Ohio has had some incredible programs in some of the outlying communities. Patrick Henry, Fostoria, Clyde, Tiffin, all come to mind. (Fostoria in their heyday with Woodson and crew as Division II or III in Ohio, could have competed anywhere in the country!)

From my era where NWO football became too diffuse, the schools apparently learned their lesson. (I don't seriously believe that this was any more than school districts planning with their resources.) But schools have become more concentrated. Some schools like Central Catholic have had a resurgence. The fact is when you look at the quarter finalists in the top three divisions in the state, they have more than the (population percentage share from NWO). But it is much sparser and smaller than all other parts of the state. With Cleveland-Akron to the east, Columbus metro to the central and south, and Cinci-Dayton to the southwest. The only large city in NWO is Toledo, #5 in Ohio, behind Dayton, just ahead of Akron.

I think over-all the other major metro areas as a whole are always better than NWO. But the toughest teams from NWO fare well against the top teams from almost anywhere else in the state.

Thus says the Black Swamp Fianna. Sort of the NWO Mafia. (There is a reason NWO was settled last.)

Ugh... Valley Forge is good? That's really weird. I played for Strongsville. I've heard they took a nose dive recently. So sad. I miss NEO football, for sure.
 
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Man, I got that screwed around. Ross was Woodson. I guess it was because St Johns Jesuit played Fostoria, Fremont, and Findlay, for multiple years in that stretch. So my brother-in-law who started at linebacker for three years for the Titans played against Moore and McBeth (Casey still holds MAC records), Ben Roethlisberger, and Woodson.

That is what I am saying about NWO football though. You are right Fremont Ross was Woodson. And Woodson was Ross. Now that you mention it, I knew his half-brother that was an assistant coach at UT at the time. I saw Shawn after that SJ game, and asked him what he thought. I remember he smiled and said CW could have played and started at UT that day as a high school underclassmen. He was kind of proud.

But Fostoria was a small school that was devastating. There were all the advantages of playing them as there would be in reaching into a bag of angry cats. For years the were awesome, and then in the early nineties they started scheduling the big schools in Ohio with the pedigrees and just kicked their asses!

Damon Moore had a relative cousin Clayton Moore who holds defensive MAC records still, and of course Joe Johnson Irish defensive back played for Fostoria! There was another kid who played with Damon Moore and Casey McBeth, who was a great field event star for the track team too. That kid was out of this world and I cannot remember his name.

Sorry I pooched so much up!
 

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Reporter from the Cincy Enquirer is saying Urban is still showing interest and he is planning on visiting there later this month.
 
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