'13 Coaching Hot Seat

[irishff1014]

Looks like USC, Texas and Florida will all be open this year. Should be interesting.

3 top 10 jobs in one year ouch.

 

[enrico514]

Looks like USC, Texas and Florida will all be open this year. Should be interesting.

Incredible actually! What is the order of best gig among these 3 ?

#1. Texas
#2. SCum
#3. Florida

???

 

[gspjeb]

I would say that Texas is definitely the best because of the money and easy recruiting...followed by SCum and Florida last just as you lay out.

If I was Louisville I would start worrying a little

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Incredible actually! What is the order of best gig among these 3 ?

#1. Texas
#2. SCum
#3. Florida

???

Yes.

 

[BGIF]

Maryland opened the season 4-0 then went 2-5. The only bright spot was the win over VT.

UMD has a long list of injuries but fans don't seem to take that into consideration when evaluating coaches.


The early wins were over (Sagarin Ranked)
#76 WVU 4-7
#124 ODU (FCS) 8-3
#160 CONN 0-9
#230 FIU 1-8

Then
L #1 FSU 63-0
W #97 UVA
L #87 WF
L #10 CLEM
L #68 SYR
W #31 VT
L #57 BC

Last game is against #106 NCS.

 

[phork]

Hoke's going to start the 2014 season on the hot seat.

And I love it.

And somehow we'll lose.

 

[phork]

He Gone

 

[Bluto]

How does Muschamp not get fired. He lost to a team that had 0 passing yards. That's gotta be some kind of record in terms of sucking.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

If I was Louisville I would start worrying a little

Surprised nobody has started the "If I was Notre Dame I would start worrying a little."

 

[irishff1014]

How does Muschamp not get fired. He lost to a team that had 0 passing yards. That's gotta be some kind of record in terms of sucking.

Hell yea and they are going to get stomped by FSU.

 

[stlnd01]

I would say that Texas is definitely the best because of the money and easy recruiting...followed by SCum and Florida last just as you lay out.

If I was Louisville I would start worrying a little

Completely half-baked predictions:

Strong to Florida (Seems like a no-brainer.)
Sarkisian to USC (Sumlin stays put and Del Rio's not a college guy. Ed O gets a BCS conference head gig, but not USC)
Gundy to Texas (I realize he's controversial and rough around the edges, but if they're going to dump Mack Brown they'll do it for someone completely different.)

 

[koonja]

Completely half-baked predictions:

Strong to Florida (Seems like a no-brainer.)
Sarkisian to USC (Sumlin stays put and Del Rio's not a college guy. Ed O gets a BCS conference head gig, but not USC)
Gundy to Texas (I realize he's controversial and rough around the edges, but if they're going to dump Mack Brown they'll do it for someone completely different.)

 

[BGIF]

How does Muschamp not get fired. ...

Simple, SEC Logic


Muschamp's agent spoke with the UF AD right after the game and advised him:

1. UF's two dozen injuries take them down to the scholarship level (63) of a FCS team.

2. FCS coaches are used to having to make do with less giving them an unfair advantage.

3. SEC coaches have grown accustomed to playing with more than less. It's really the SEC's fault for not advising the coaching staff of the perils of less is more.

4. Georgia Southern coaches don't watch ESPN otherwise then would have known that the SEC is unbeatable.

 

[BGIF]

Simple, SEC Logic


Muschamp's agent spoke with the UF AD right after the game and advised him:

1. UF's two dozen injuries take them down to the scholarship level (63) of a FCS team.

2. FCS coaches are used to having to make do with less giving them an unfair advantage.

3. SEC coaches have grown accustomed to playing with more than less. It's really the SEC's fault for not advising the coaching staff of the perils of less is more.

4. Georgia Southern coaches don't watch ESPN otherwise then would have known that the SEC is unbeatable.

UH OH!

Muschamp better hope AD Foley and/or President Machen read the wire service reports.

1. Turns out Georgia Southern also has manpower problems as 19 members of their roster were not available to play.

2. GS ran for the 4th highest rushing yards (429) ever allowed by the Gators.

3. GS only converted 3 Third Downs.

4. GS lost the Turnover Battle 0-2, fumbling 3 times and losing two.

5. GS ran 5 fewer plays than UF, 57 to 62, but had 150 more yards of Total Offense, 429 to 279.

 

[stlnd01]

UH OH!

Muschamp better hope AD Foley and/or President Machen read the wire service reports.

1. Turns out Georgia Southern also has manpower problems as 19 members of their roster were not available to play.

2. GS ran for the 4th highest rushing yards (429) ever allowed by the Gators.

3. GS only converted 3 Third Downs.

4. GS lost the Turnover Battle 0-2, fumbling 3 times and losing two.

5. GS ran 5 fewer plays than UF, 57 to 62, but had 150 more yards of Total Offense, 429 to 279.

Didn't watch a second of that game, but just based on points 3-5 this sounds horrible for Florida's defense.

 

[BGIF]

Didn't watch a second of that game, but just based on points 3-5 this sounds horrible for Florida's defense.

Defense is supposed to be Muschamp's strong side.

 

[tko]

I want to see musCHUMP out and Bo Pelini, but I think Pelini bought himself another year down the stretch.

 

[Cackalacky]

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[irishog77]

Not sure there's any way Muschamp can keep his job after losing to an undermanned, I-AA school, at home...who didn't even attempt a pass and had 2 turnovers.

There's really no possible way to justify that loss. It was bad, real bad.

They had a strong season (well, at least record-wise) last year, but it's basically been embarrassment after embarrassment since the Sugar Bowl. And what can they look to for vast improvement next year or the year after? If I were Foley, I'd cut my losses now and can him.

 

[Cackalacky]

There are rumblings of Ed O making a SEC return with the gators.

 

[ACamp1900]

Incredible actually! What is the order of best gig among these 3 ?

#1. Texas
#2. SCum
#3. Florida

???

You nailed it... But all three are top level jobs obviously

 

[ACamp1900]

Not sure there's any way Muschamp can keep his job after losing to an undermanned, I-AA school, at home...who didn't even attempt a pass and had 2 turnovers.

There's really no possible way to justify that loss. It was bad, real bad.

They had a strong season (well, at least record-wise) last year, but it's basically been embarrassment after embarrassment since the Sugar Bowl. And what can they look to for vast improvement next year or the year after? If I were Foley, I'd cut my losses now and can him.

Wait, thy didn't attempt a single pass???

 

[Cackalacky]

I think it was they had zero completions

 

[Ironman8]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Source: Will Muschamp be back as <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Gators&src=hash">#Gators</a> coach in 2014: <a href="http://t.co/kzWWj0wOuO">http://t.co/kzWWj0wOuO</a></p>— Edgar Thompson (@osgators) <a href="https://twitter.com/osgators/statuses/404691830383452160">November 24, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[Ironman8]

Interesting.

 

[gkIrish]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Source: Will Muschamp be back as <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Gators&src=hash">#Gators</a> coach in 2014: <a href="http://t.co/kzWWj0wOuO">http://t.co/kzWWj0wOuO</a></p>— Edgar Thompson (@osgators) <a href="https://twitter.com/osgators/statuses/404691830383452160">November 24, 2013</a></blockquote>
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So stupid. (Dont believe it though)

 

[irishog77]

Wait, thy didn't attempt a single pass???

I think it was they had zero completions

Yes, you're right. I said that wrong.

They were 0-3 on the day.

 

[philipm31]

As bad as Hoke is at MICH, Muschamp makes him look like a genius....and that takes a LOT

 

[BobD]

From ESPN:


Patience might be a virtue, but for those in the coaching profession, it's not necessarily a luxury granted.

With impatient fan bases, expectant athletic departments doling out big money and teams needing to deliver on promises of bowl wins and brilliant seasons, the third year is often a benchmark.

By the third season, the excuse can no longer be that a coach doesn't have his players or his system in place. He can no longer be considered a newbie to the conference, because there are certainly less-experienced coaches around. He's judged by his record on paper and his product on the field.

For third-year coaches Brady Hoke or Will Muschamp, that's too bad, because the records aren't good. And the products might be worse.


AP Photo/Phil Sandlin
Will Muschamp could only watch as Georgia Southern ran past Florida.
Muschamp's Florida Gators dropped to 4-7 this weekend after a 26-20 loss to Southern Conference opponent Georgia Southern, marking the program's first loss to an FCS team.

Yes, Florida is dealing with a slew of ailments (nine season-ending injuries, 20-plus starters missing at least part of a game). In that regard, it's hard not to feel for the Gators. But it certainly can't be an excuse, especially considering Georgia Southern has lost 19 scholarship players (of an FCS-level 63 scholarships) to injury this season.

It's quite the changeup for a Florida fan base that enjoyed an 11-2 season in 2012.

At this point last season, the Gators were preparing for what was to be their fourth top-10 opponent of the season. Florida was 2-1 already in those matchups and would finish 3-1 after beating Florida State.

Now they enter the Florida State game with a should-be-fourth-string quarterback leading a sputtering offense and fans missing Ron Zook and his 17-14 record against BCS teams.

But maybe they can find empathy with Michigan fans.

The Wolverines went 11-2 in Hoke's first year. Maybe they were spoiled. Maybe the schedule was stacked in the Wolverines' favor. Maybe something was "owed" to Michigan after three years of Rich Rodriguez (who isn't doing too badly at Arizona right now in his second season).

Hoke's Wolverines lost to Iowa 24-21 on Saturday and with an impending game against Ohio State -- a team that seems to be a heavy, heavy favorite in nearly every matchup on paper -- Michigan is trying to answer questions in seven days that it could take seven months to fix.

If they lose, the Wolverines will finish 3-5 in the Big Ten this season -- the same record Rodriguez finished with in his third year at the helm of the team.

Under Hoke, Michigan has a 26-11 record (15-8 Big Ten), but in marquee matchups, it has faltered. The Wolverines are 1-2 against Michigan State, 1-1 against Ohio State and 1-1 in bowl games, and they have yet to win two consecutive road games.

And their product -- an Al Borges-led offense that has finally implemented a non-Denard Robinson quarterback -- has seemed to regress this season with Devin Gardner, which has fans calling for firings as well as a the starting of true freshman QB Shane Morris and his other young teammates, the ballyhooed recruits of Hoke.

Maybe Hoke's and Muschamp's shortcomings this season wouldn't seem so bad if their teams and fan bases hadn't already experienced success in those coaches' tenures, if they had gradually built rather than delivering in their first or second seasons.

Or maybe it wouldn't seem so bad if there weren't coaches out there proving that it's certainly possible to build a team -- combining one's own recruits with a previous coaches' players and implementing new schemes and expectations -- in just three seasons.


AP Photo/Charlie Neibergall
Brady Hoke hasn't been able to find the 11-2 magic of his first season at Michigan.
Hoke's team might've gotten the better of Minnesota this season, but the Wolverines certainly must be happy they don't have to play the Gophers at this point in the season. Jerry Kill has his team playing its best football of the year.

In three years he has taken a team that was 3-9 in 2010 and turned it into an 8-3 bunch that will finish at least .500 in the Big Ten for the first time since 2005.

And Vanderbilt's James Franklin, who took over the Commodores after a two-win season in 2010, took care of business against Muschamp's Gators and Georgia in the same season, a program first. Saturday night, Franklin and the Dores defeated in-state rival Tennessee for the second year in a row, something Vandy hasn't accomplished since 1925-26.

Vandy can end the year 8-5 with a win over Wake Forest at home on Saturday. With a bowl win, the Commodores would finish with back-to-back nine-win seasons.

So it is possible. Maybe not easy. But definitely possible -- Kill and Franklin are proof that the three-year expectation isn't completely out of reach.

Patience for Hoke and Muschamp might not be completely gone, but it's wearing thin. The longer the records and product don't improve, the more their explanations are going to sound like excuses.

 

[CTHindman]

I think Muschamp showed what kind of head coach he was last year in the Sugar Bowl. They absolutely just quit. Bridgewater is an athlete, but Lousivile was a more solid team this year. Florida just looked like spoiled brats last year.