Saban's a ramblin' man

[ACamp1900]

a buddy of mine was asking if i thought he would leave...i said even if he went on tv or radio saying he wouldn't leave(like he just did) i wouldn't believe him just for that exact reason

Saban is one of those ‘special’ human beings that could go on record stating the sky is blue and I’d instantly start questioning what color the sky really is…

 

[STLDomer]

FWIW a random poster on BGI:

One of my best friends is a guy who works for me and played football at Michigan State. He was no star, but he was highly recruited and expected to be a solid contributor unless he blew out a knee. His brother is "placed" at Michigan State, knows Saban and his staff from Michigan State, and is very close to Bobby Williams (on Saban's staff at both Michigan State and 'Bama).

My friend was told that those at Michigan State have reason to believe that Saban will move to Texas for a package of about $10 million a year. If he goes, Kirby Smart will be hired the next day at 'Bama, and Smart will offer Narduzzi a million a year to be his DC.

 

[PANDFAN]

FWIW a random poster on BGI:

makes sense if he was going to leave

 

[irishfan]

Can we offer Narduzzi 1.1?

 

[Irish#1]

FWIW a random poster on BGI:

The $10M makes sense. I heard on the radio a few weeks back that Saban had lost a lot of money on some bad investments. This would be a way to recoup that money pretty quickly. As far as Saban saying he is too old to go any place else, I don't buy it. We're the same age and if I were offered a salary about 1 1/2 -2 1/2 times more than what I currently make, I'd be leaving. If he feels he's that old and tired, why is he still coaching? The man is a brilliant coach, but he's also a liar.

 

[PANDFAN]

The $10M makes sense. I heard on the radio a few weeks back that Saban had lost a lot of money on some bad investments. This would be a way to recoup that money pretty quickly. As far as Saban saying he is too old to go any place else, I don't buy it. We're the same age and if I were offered a salary about 1 1/2 -2 1/2 times more than what I currently make, I'd be leaving. If he feels he's that old and tired, why is he still coaching? The man is a brilliant coach, but he's also a liar.

how about a brilliant liar?

 

[irishog77]

Just imagine if usc, Texas, Alabama, Florida, and Eastern Michigan all hired new coaches this offseason. It will impact the college football landscape for years to come.

 

[irishog77]

P.S. I've felt the Saban to Texas talk has had legs for over 2 years now...but say it happens-- I doubt Kirby Smart would be hired as the new coach the next day. I call BS on that.

 

[PANDFAN]

Just imagine if usc, Texas, Alabama, Florida, and Eastern Michigan all hired new coaches this offseason. It will impact the college football landscape for years to come.

FAU not count?

 

[irishog77]

FAU not count?

Add them too!

 

[ACamp1900]

LOL at EMU... I just started a Dynasty in NCAA with them... ugh, it's gonna be a grind.

Anyway, some time ago I was talking with my UNC buddy about this topic... He actually stated, "what makes the most sense is Smart sitting down with Saban and saying 'Nick, go get your money and offload some pressure, I got this'... " at least that was his opinion of the most plausible thing to happen. Time will tell. Nick is a total snake, but let's not forget, about this time last year he was the next Cleveland Browns HC and it was basically a done deal.

 

[Bishop2b5]

One of the big recruits on campus this past weekend said Saban made it very clear to him that he wasn't leaving Bama for Texas. The most common school of thought among Bama fans is that Sexton used this several months ago as leverage for Saban to get a large pay increase for his staff. Anything can happen, but I'd give 10:1 odds Saban isn't going anywhere this year.

The "Texas can offer so much more money" thing isn't something I'd hang my hat on. Given how much money Saban's success has brought to our athletic department, I can't imagine we'd blink at matching a $10 mil offer. I can't see Texas forking out a lot more than that to just outbid us. It might take a LOT more than that.

 

[ACamp1900]

One of the big recruits on campus this past weekend said Saban made it very clear to him that he wasn't leaving Bama for Texas.

Well gee... That definately settles it... Saban would never lie to anyone, most of all a recruit...

 

[Bishop2b5]

Well gee... That definately settles it... Saban would never lie to anyone, most of all a recruit...

Why lie to a recruit about staying or leaving? If he leaves, that would happen weeks before NSD and would serve no purpose. OTOH, if you hate all things Saban and just want to believe the worst no matter what, then you'll certainly find some excuse to do so.

 

[ACamp1900]

Could it be that a final decision hasn't been made one way or the other yet... or that he doesn't want to cut Smart's legs out from under him during the middle of another potential title run?

and you are right, Saban is definitely a stand up human being... top class.

 

[Bishop2b5]

It's a lot of talk about nothing. Saban's not leaving. The only people who seem to think there's anything to it are UT & Auburn fans, and we can understand why they're holding on to the dream.

 

[RammerJammer91]

Could it be that a final decision hasn't been made one way or the other yet... or that he doesn't want to cut Smart's legs out from under him during the middle of another potential title run?

and you are right, Saban is definitely a stand up human being... top class.

Yeah, I mean, he's no Brian Kelly. That's for sure.

 

[NDdomer2]

Someone sounds like they know this is the last year with their favorite coach

 

[chubler]

It's a lot of talk about nothing. Saban's not leaving. The only people who seem to think there's anything to it are UT & Auburn fans, and we can understand why they're holding on to the dream.

That's pretty naive. The entire reason it's getting so much media attention is that people think it's plausible enough to pay attention to. Likely? perhaps not. But definitely plausible. Two basic reasons:

1. Head Coach at Texas >>>>> Head Coach at Alabama. Texas is the kind of school that coaches get buyout exceptions written into their contracts for. There aren't a lot of other places like that. Ohio State, Michigan, Notre Dame, USC might be the only others. It's not that Alabama has any less potential, or has been any less historically successful than any of those schools (not interested in discussing claimed titles haha), it's just that for whatever reason those programs have mystique in a way other programs don't.

2. Money. Say all you want about Bama's willingness to match or beat Texas' offer, but when it comes down to it, the University of Texas can afford to outpay the University of Alabama out of the building, down the street, and around the corner. Texas' boosters are even further ahead of Bama's, and they're hungry for success and presumably willing to pay. If money alone drives Saban's decisions, he'll go to Texas. There's not a program in the country that can sustainably pay the same amount Texas can. Everyone's got crazy rich boosters, but Texas has an extra 10-20 million in profit every year.

That doesn't mean Saban WILL be going to Texas. Just that its plausible enough to consider.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Can you really see Texas paying $15-20 mil/year to get Saban? A year from now there will be another rumor about how he's leaving Bama... just as there's been each of the past 6 years. Saban leaving Bama for UT is extremely unlikely.

 

[Irish#1]

One of the big recruits on campus this past weekend said Saban made it very clear to him that he wasn't leaving Bama for Texas. The most common school of thought among Bama fans is that Sexton used this several months ago as leverage for Saban to get a large pay increase for his staff. Anything can happen, but I'd give 10:1 odds Saban isn't going anywhere this year.

The "Texas can offer so much more money" thing isn't something I'd hang my hat on. Given how much money Saban's success has brought to our athletic department, I can't imagine we'd blink at matching a $10 mil offer. I can't see Texas forking out a lot more than that to just outbid us. It might take a LOT more than that.

You know how you can tell when Saban lies? His lips are moving.

 

[ACamp1900]

Texas is the best job in the country... Easy.

 

[STLDomer]

One of the big recruits on campus this past weekend said Saban made it very clear to him that he wasn't leaving Bama for Texas. The most common school of thought among Bama fans is that Sexton used this several months ago as leverage for Saban to get a large pay increase for his staff. Anything can happen, but I'd give 10:1 odds Saban isn't going anywhere this year.

The "Texas can offer so much more money" thing isn't something I'd hang my hat on. Given how much money Saban's success has brought to our athletic department, I can't imagine we'd blink at matching a $10 mil offer. I can't see Texas forking out a lot more than that to just outbid us. It might take a LOT more than that.

Well then I guess if he leaves it will be A) the first time a coach ever said he is staying and left and B) the first time a coach ever lied to a recruit.

 

[Bishop2b5]

You know how you can tell when Saban lies? His lips are moving.

Let it go. This is what I'd expect from Auburn or tOSU fans. You guys are supposed to be better than this.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Texas is the best job in the country... Easy.

Some would differ with you...

Which is the better college football coaching job? - Sportsnation - ESPN

 

[pkt77242]

One of the big recruits on campus this past weekend said Saban made it very clear to him that he wasn't leaving Bama for Texas. The most common school of thought among Bama fans is that Sexton used this several months ago as leverage for Saban to get a large pay increase for his staff. Anything can happen, but I'd give 10:1 odds Saban isn't going anywhere this year.

The "Texas can offer so much more money" thing isn't something I'd hang my hat on. Given how much money Saban's success has brought to our athletic department, I can't imagine we'd blink at matching a $10 mil offer. I can't see Texas forking out a lot more than that to just outbid us. It might take a LOT more than that.

If you believe that he would be completely open and honest if he was leaving (not saying that he will) then you were born yesterday, and I have some ocean front property in Arizona to sell you.

 

[ACamp1900]

Some would differ with you...

Which is the better college football coaching job? - Sportsnation - ESPN

Yeah, like those dumb enough to watch sports nation...

 

[chubler]

Let it go. This is what I'd expect from Auburn or tOSU fans. You guys are supposed to be better than this.

Unless I'm sorely mistaken, most or all of us are simply saying that it's a possibility, let's wait and see if anything comes of it. What part of that entirely reasonable sentiment are we supposed to be "better than"?

 

[ACamp1900]

Texas - College Football's 20 Best Coaching Jobs - Photos - SI.com

From NFL to college, ranking the 10 best head-coaching jobs in football - college football - ESPN

 

[Bishop2b5]

Yeah, like those dumb enough to watch sports nation...

Sorry, man. I didn't realize all of us that disagree with you are just dumb. Didn't mean to insinuate that anyone else's opinion was worth as much as yours. Forgive me for my lapse.