'09 CA RB Cierre Wood

[irishpat183]

I loved Cierre when he was at ND, but never would have drafted the guy (one of the only ND draftable players I will ever say that about). Always seemed me-first, and he didn't have the game to match the swagger.

I felt the opposite about Theo Riddick's attitude. He did all the little things and had a much better demeanor on the field than Cierre. His interview in the locker room after Bama will always make him one of my favorite players, and he was so worthy of being a late-round pick for his heart alone.

Thank you!

People gave me so much **** for being anti-cierre and pro-theo. I could see Cierre's character flaws a mile away

 

[CanadalovesND]

Thank you!

People gave me so much **** for being anti-cierre and pro-theo. I could see Cierre's character flaws a mile away

Say what you will about his character, but he was a pretty good RB here at ND.

2,447 rushing yards on 450 carries (5.4 avg) with 16 TDs.

 

[jimmymac]

I loved Cierre when he was at ND, but never would have drafted the guy (one of the only ND draftable players I will ever say that about). Always seemed me-first, and he didn't have the game to match the swagger.

I felt the opposite about Theo Riddick's attitude. He did all the little things and had a much better demeanor on the field than Cierre. His interview in the locker room after Bama will always make him one of my favorite players, and he was so worthy of being a late-round pick for his heart alone.

and that's why cierre wasn't drafted and theo was...

 

[phgreek]

Pretty sure he graduated before heading to the NFL. Could be wrong.

If he did I missed it/forgot...and he deserves a ton of credit for that. That said, the bigger point is HE made a big deal about the decision and chose to bypass a year of eligibility. He did so knowing he had perception issues he could have dealt with better w/ another year at ND. I slighted him in that I did not acknowledge his degree, and that is a factor in favor of leaving...I apologize for that...But the bigger issue is IF this is the same issue...it caused him to enter the draft a long shot of sorts...and HE chose it...he navigates the gauntlet of the undrafted, gains a roster spot...then something else happened...IF it is the same issue, it brings into question his justification...Why bail ND to enter the unknown...Floyd was an immediate template for character rehab, yes? So the question remains in my mind...was leaving ND an issue of providing?

If that is unfathomable...sorry, but I question a lot of what people say about their motivation when their conduct in the self destructive persists...

 

[Golden_Domer]

Can't say this surprises me. He has precedent for pissing away great opportunities. Responded to being placed on the Heisman watch list last year by getting suspended for weed. He's never had the best decision-making skills (see "Free Hernandez" post on his Twitter).

 

[irishpat183]

You skipped English class, apparently ... tragic heroes are undone by a fatal flaw. Cierre's problems are his own doing; that doesn't make them any less tragic.

And I agree he deserves zero sympathy; I don't have sympathy for him. I am sad because a young man may have thrown his chance at his NFL dream. Why shouldn't I be sad about that just because it's his own damn fault (assuming it is)?

LOL.

I didn't skip english class...I just didn't care too much about something that wasn't going to make me money one day. I'm glad you're an expert in all things "english class".

And it's his fault. I'm plugged into some guys in the sports broadcasting field. They were having themselves a good time..too good of a time

 

[irishpat183]

Can't say this surprises me. He has precedent for pissing away great opportunities. Responded to being placed on the Heisman watch list last year by getting suspended for weed. He's never had the best decision-making skills (see "Free Hernandez" post on his Twitter).

He's a thug. Enjoy a life of dissapointment Cierre. Unless you choose to pull your head outta your *** and put that ND education to work for you.

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

LOL.

I didn't skip english class...I just didn't care too much about something that wasn't going to make me money one day. I'm glad you're an expert in all things "english class".

And it's his fault. I'm plugged into some guys in the sports broadcasting field. They were having themselves a good time..too good of a time

Many of my buddies in law school have secured positions with their undergraduate English degrees where they will earn more money in one year than you could in two years. Be careful with such a blanket statement.

Other than that, I agree with you about Cierre. You could see this from his Instagram pictures when he graduated (another IE poster pointed this out to me). It sucks, but he is an idiot.

 

[woolybug25]

Pat... do you ever chill?

I actually agree with most of your premise, but dang dude... you are are going to have a heart attack at an early age.

I can literally feel your mouth-breathing and hear your weazing through my cpu screen.

chillax homie... its not that serious...

 

[CanadalovesND]

He's a thug. Enjoy a life of dissapointment Cierre. Unless you choose to pull your head outta your *** and put that ND education to work for you.

His behavior doesn't classify him as a "thug", a dumb*** idiot yes, but not a thug.

 

[phgreek]

It's drugs and partying. My degree in mass comm has me plugged in with some college friends that work for the Houston media.

Called my buddy at lunch

Ugh...I guess it'll come out in the media then...

 

[Voltaire]

A person's core priorities are always made clear by what the person does, not what the person says.

 

[irishpat183]

Many of my buddies in law school have secured positions with their undergraduate English degrees where they will earn more money in one year than you could in two years. Be careful with such a blanket statement.

Other than that, I agree with you about Cierre. You could see this from his Instagram pictures when he graduated (another IE poster pointed this out to me). It sucks, but he is an idiot.

"..make ME money one day..."


Do you know how much money I make? How do you know they make more than I do?

 

[irishpat183]

Pat... do you ever chill?

I actually agree with most of your premise, but dang dude... you are are going to have a heart attack at an early age.

I can literally feel your mouth-breathing and hear your weazing through my cpu screen.

chillax homie... its not that serious...

I'm much more chill in person. Cold beer and the grill fired up.


I come across on here as high strung, but it's not the case.

 

[cody1smith]

Many of my buddies in law school have secured positions with their undergraduate English degrees where they will earn more money in one year than you could in two years. Be careful with such a blanket statement.

Other than that, I agree with you about Cierre. You could see this from his Instagram pictures when he graduated (another IE poster pointed this out to me). It sucks, but he is an idiot.

Seems arrogrant to say the least. Unless you know someone personally it would be pretty tough to assume that a couple of your "buddies" make twice as much money as him. To double an even average income is a pretty tall task, unless your say a doctor lawyer or fairly high in some sort of business. Or he is unemployed or something of that nature.

 

[irishpat183]

Seems arrogrant to say the least. Unless you know someone personally it would be pretty tough to assume that a couple of your "buddies" make twice as much money as him. To double an even average income is a pretty tall task, unless your say a doctor lawyer or fairly high in some sort of business. Or he is unemployed or something of that nature.

I don't know one english major that is killing it. One. Not that they don't exist...I'd never say it's impossible.


He's full of it. Plain and simple.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

I can literally feel your mouth-breathing and hear your weazing through my cpu screen.

 

[Emcee77]

Many of my buddies in law school have secured positions with their undergraduate English degrees where they will earn more money in one year than you could in two years. Be careful with such a blanket statement.

Other than that, I agree with you about Cierre. You could see this from his Instagram pictures when he graduated (another IE poster pointed this out to me). It sucks, but he is an idiot.

Seems arrogrant to say the least. Unless you know someone personally it would be pretty tough to assume that a couple of your "buddies" make twice as much money as him. To double an even average income is a pretty tall task, unless your say a doctor lawyer or fairly high in some sort of business. Or he is unemployed or something of that nature.

He was talking about lawyers. And the basic point is fair ... English is a common undergraduate major of lawyers, and there are plenty of lawyers with English backgrounds making a ton of money; I used to work with a couple (hell, I was one, before I left my firm job for the criminal justice system). "Twice as much" was making an assumption, but regardless of how much anyone makes, it's true enough that everybody has to take English in high school, and I don't think "I didn't pay attention to a required subject when I was a kid because I didn't think it would make me any money" is much of an apology for ignorance of something so basic. Tragic flaws, that's 9th grade English. We all take it throughout our childhood because all educated people are expected to know it.

But my main point was not to call Pat out for not knowing much about English, lol. That was just a joke. I mean, who cares about irishpat's English knowledge; I certainly don't. I'm sure he's quite right that he's not any richer or poorer either way. I just meant to clarify that I wasn't saying that my heart bleeds for Cierre or he is obviously a victim of circumstance in all this etc. etc. No, Cierre has to bear responsibility for his actions ... but there is no inconsistency in recognizing that and still calling this turn of events tragic.

 

[military_irish]

Sad to see. With Foster having injury problems of late and next year, more than likely, Tate is gone. It stacked up well for Cierre, if he put the effort in. But it appears as though he didn't.

Unfortunate really.

Someone is bound to give him a second chance let's just hope he doesn't screw up twice.

If he does it's on him and he deserves everything he gets, harsh truth but that's reality.

 

[Irish Insanity]

I know he had pot issues at ND, but where did him getting released turn into another pot issue. Just speculation on here? I'm seriously asking.

If it was for violating team rules at the hotel, and it was weed, thats completely ridiculous. By him, not the team. If your gonna smoke and be an NFL player, why in the **** would you do it at an away game hotel. Do it when your at home. That would also mean you most likely brought it with you on the team transportation or purchased it in the city. Both are just as stupid as smoking it in the place you were.

Just because you graduate ND, doesn't mean you are smart.

 

[rikkitikki08]

What an idiot

"their is nothing worse than wasted talent"- a Bronx tale

 

[Pachuco]

This kind of sh*t bugs me, and I'm not talking about Cierre.

I'm talking about fans pontificating about character flaws and passing judgement like it's righteousness.

 

[Golden_Domer]

What a wasted opportunity. Foster re-injures his hamstring and Tate has 4 fractured ribs. Wonder if Houston will call up someone from their practice squad now or sign, like, Beanie Wells/Michael Turner off the street.

 

[CanadalovesND]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Sam Montgomery says he walked into a hotel room where Jefferson & Wood were smoking a cigar. Went to team meetings and was called by Kubiak</p>— James Palmer (@JPalmerCSN) <a href="https://twitter.com/JPalmerCSN/statuses/392372634031505408">October 21, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Obviously Gary Kubiak did not address the reason behind dismissing Jefferson, Wood and Montgomery. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&src=hash">#Texans</a></p>— James Palmer (@JPalmerCSN) <a href="https://twitter.com/JPalmerCSN/statuses/392387937054515200">October 21, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[GBdomer]

For smoking a cigar?!??! Okkkkkkk Kubiak. Montgomery had all the talent as well but he is also a head case.

 

[Mr. McGibblets]

I'm much more chill in person. Cold beer and the grill fired up.


I come across on here as high strung, but it's not the case.

It's your avatar. I read all of your posts in Charlie's voice.

 

[Jebediah Springfield]

Sooo after reading this is it safe to say someone should stop smoking bud and someone else should start (or their internet personality could use a toke grin

 

[Irish Houstonian]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Sam Montgomery says he walked into a hotel room where Jefferson & Wood were smoking a cigar. Went to team meetings and was called by Kubiak</p>— James Palmer (@JPalmerCSN) <a href="https://twitter.com/JPalmerCSN/statuses/392372634031505408">October 21, 2013</a></blockquote>

Ha. 15 year-olds come up with better excuses than that.

 

[rikkitikki08]

Smoking a cigar.....that has bud in it

 

[Golden_Domer]

Houston Texans cut Sam Montgomery, Cierre Wood, Willie Jefferson - ESPN

HOUSTON -- Houston Texans rookies Sam Montgomery, Cierre Wood and Willie Jefferson were released Monday, two days after violating team rules while at the Texans' team hotel in Kansas City.

Three sources who wished to remain anonymous told ESPN.com that the violation occurred due to marijuana use.

Wood, Jefferson and Montgomery were inactive for Sunday's 17-16 loss to the Kansas City Chiefs, the Texans' fifth consecutive loss.

"I don't understand why they did it," Texans outside linebacker Brooks Reed said. "They had the opportunity of their lives and they just kind of threw it away. I don't have too much to say about it. It's really unfortunate. We lost a lot of depth for that game. They were great players and they had a lot of potential. We're just going to find more guys that are more dedicated to the cause."

Jefferson's agent, Chad Cannon, told ESPN.com that the players were smoking a cigar in the team hotel and that illegal drugs were not involved.

"We're discussing the possibility of filing a grievance," Cannon said. "I need to be in touch with them and really figure if that's the best route to take."

Montgomery told Comcast SportsNet Houston that he walked into a hotel room where Wood and Jefferson were smoking a cigar Saturday and was later called from a meeting by coach Gary Kubiak.

"I won't discuss team rules and those type of things," Kubiak said during his Monday news conference. "I'll make decisions based on a body of work in everything I do. I've got five months of work invested in those three young men and made a decision today to move forward."

Montgomery was a third-round draft pick by the Texans and was inactive for the first seven games of the season. He went into rookie minicamp out of shape and suffered an injury shortly thereafter that limited him in offseason workouts and practices.

After the break following offseason workouts, Montgomery showed up at training camp -- again out of shape -- and began training camp on the non-football injury list. Wood, an undrafted free agent, was the Texans' third running back, and his absence became critical against the Chiefs when starter Arian Foster aggravated a hamstring injury and could not finish the game.

Backup running back Ben Tate also suffered an injury. He finished the game but had X-rays afterward and was spelled at times by fullback Greg Jones.

Jefferson, an outside linebacker, also was one of four undrafted rookies the Texans signed after training camp. He began his college football career at Baylor before being kicked off the team, then finished his college career at Stephen F. Austin.

Bolded statements sum up this entire situation...