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AKRowdy
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This is so true! I go to school at a small university and it sickens me when someone gets a bad grade they will go directly to the head of department and complain saying the teacher doesn't teach or isn't a fair grader. It makes me sick! Just take some responsibility for the grade and study harder!
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Amen! Parents are so quick to point out the teacher's flaws and completely ignore their children's problems. Complete BS. I see so many parents sending their kids to alternative high schools (home studies, schools with no homework, etc.) because the teachers "just don't understand" their kids. My wife's aunt constantly runs her mouth about how her kids teachers and coaches are bad and out to get her kids. She just doesn't realize that her kids, while actually being good kids, are just completely lazy mooches who don't do shits. Seriously one of the things that gets under my skin the most.
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About six months ago I got out of the classroom and took an admin. Position at my college.. one of the student lounges is just across from my office and every day in between classes there are foul mouthed, excuse makers who consistently blame the teachers for their poor grades... drive me crazy.
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I know! I had a biochem exam last semester that all of the "honors" kids studied the night before the exam, where I studied a week in advance. The test was so difficult for them that the called the head of the department up right when they got out of the class complaining about how they didn't know anything! I may just be an old fashioned 21 year old, but that stuff drives me up a tree! You put in the hard work and have determination everything will work out fine.
ACamp1900
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Haven't you heard, expecting people to work hard for themselves is insensitive and ignorant…
NDFan4Life
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I know I'm generalizing here, , but I believe kids today expect things to be handed to them. The word "hard work" and determination" aren't in their vocabulary.
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Yes... I was just telling someone that what this site really needed... was another political thread.
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Sharing our thoughts on the cartoon?? I missed something
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nsideirish
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It isn't the fault of the kids. 100% on how they were raised.
Like most other things that ail out society, I am blaming the Boomers! That is my default answer.
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When you really want to get down to it, you you want to blame the Boomers you have to blame their parents' generation, The Greatest Generation (And even the Silent Generation). Those parents were the ones that wanted to give their children everything possible. They didn't want to see their children have to suffer through another economic collapse like the Great Depression, or another World War. Therefore, they intended to give their children everything they can which, in turn, may have led to a sense of entitlement for future generations.
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dshans
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As a "boomer" born into that category by definition, I do resent much of the mud slinging besmirching my generation. I wasn't around for the Great Depression, The War to End All Wars (now known as WW I) or WW II. My parents and grandparents were.
My paternal grandparents emigrated from Ireland to the US. They had a small corner grocery store in NYC leading up to, through and after the Great Depression. They saw to it that my father had violin lessons and attended Fordham while neighbors' "on account" bills went unpaid. There was little talk of the struggles but I caught a story or two over the years.
My maternal grandparents, living in Wisconsin during WW I, changed their name from Schmidt to Smith to deflect anti-german sentiment. They were unable to pay for more than two years of college for either my mother or her older brother. Hard, hard work was the norm for both my parents.
They passed that "heritage" on to me and my four siblings. I passed it along to my son. I paid for his four years of college at a private Catholic university. Not quite as expensive as ND, but pretty damn close. His academic record in high school resulted in a partial scholarship so it wasn't as expensive as it might have been. Had I been the selfish, "entitled" bastard boomers are painted as I would have saddled him with student loans for 30 years. I could certainly use the money in my bank account right now.
Many view Social Security, Medicare and other programs as Ponzi schemes. Of course they are. Just as any private insurance program is. Hell, food stamps as a program are under the aegis of the Department of Agriculture. Green Giant doesn't give a sh¡t where the money to pay for their niblets corn originates nor does Proctor and Gamble for sales of Charmin.
The key to all of this is to keep currency circulating through the system. "Churning" if you will. As long as there are no clogs everything flows smoothly. There's an occasional need for Roto-Rooter or Drano.
In short, it's a natural progression that successive generations hope for, and work toward, a smoother path for those that follow. Try not to get caught up in the unsubstantiated, uninformed blame game.
My paternal grandparents emigrated from Ireland to the US. They had a small corner grocery store in NYC leading up to, through and after the Great Depression. They saw to it that my father had violin lessons and attended Fordham while neighbors' "on account" bills went unpaid. There was little talk of the struggles but I caught a story or two over the years.
My maternal grandparents, living in Wisconsin during WW I, changed their name from Schmidt to Smith to deflect anti-german sentiment. They were unable to pay for more than two years of college for either my mother or her older brother. Hard, hard work was the norm for both my parents.
They passed that "heritage" on to me and my four siblings. I passed it along to my son. I paid for his four years of college at a private Catholic university. Not quite as expensive as ND, but pretty damn close. His academic record in high school resulted in a partial scholarship so it wasn't as expensive as it might have been. Had I been the selfish, "entitled" bastard boomers are painted as I would have saddled him with student loans for 30 years. I could certainly use the money in my bank account right now.
Many view Social Security, Medicare and other programs as Ponzi schemes. Of course they are. Just as any private insurance program is. Hell, food stamps as a program are under the aegis of the Department of Agriculture. Green Giant doesn't give a sh¡t where the money to pay for their niblets corn originates nor does Proctor and Gamble for sales of Charmin.
The key to all of this is to keep currency circulating through the system. "Churning" if you will. As long as there are no clogs everything flows smoothly. There's an occasional need for Roto-Rooter or Drano.
In short, it's a natural progression that successive generations hope for, and work toward, a smoother path for those that follow. Try not to get caught up in the unsubstantiated, uninformed blame game.
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There is an issue tho. Any Ponzi scheme works so long as there are more suckers, err, tax payers, and/or higher incomes per worker. At the height of the baby boomers, each woman was cranking out children at a rate that is approximately 75% higher than women today. In fact, the replacement rate in the US has been flat for practically the last 35-40 years. That hasn't mattered since the boomers were carrying the load. Now, as you and your ilk age out, there is a huge void that needs to be made up.
The single best way out of this mess is immigration reform, specifically targeting educated and productive workers. But we have bleeding hearts on the left that want to give everyone status and the crazy nut jobs on the right that fail to see the big picture that we NEED these people and we need to relax standards in the short run to get us where we need to go.
The way the US is running fiscally would be okay in the short term if there was a boom of population, productivity and wage growth forth coming and growth would carry us home. But, it hasn't happened yet and there isn't a major catalyst on the horizon. Until that happens, we are really weighing ourselves down.
Fact Sheet: The Decline in U.S. Fertility
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Could it be that you don't fully understand the argument from the right? Please take a minute and read the explanation posted below and let me know if you were informed of all of this...and then if you were, where you see the flaw in it. Thanks.
The right is well aware of the demographic (which further contribute to financial) issues facing the country. What those constitutionalists (when did that become crazy ?- ask yourself that) want is for the law to mean something. What's the point of making a new law when the current law isn't abided by or enforced? Why would the new law be enforced? What's different this time?
That said, once its apparent that we can actually follow the law, we support allowing in productive members of society and those that are net-producers. We do not believe that we should be the welfare system for the world. While it is unfair to group all of the illegal immigrants here together, more than half of those here have less than a high school education (avg - 10th grade) and they are net-takers on society. How would legalizing more (net-taking) low skilled illegal immigrants help our country and its citizens?
Aside: What's amazing to me is that we see those in the inner cities and from poorer communities selling their constituents out for politics. The evidence before the U.S.Commission on Civil Rights shows that while the negative impact on black employment and wage levels was much more pronounced, illegal immigration hurts all low-skilled American workers. It’s peculiar, however, that those who can usually be counted on to highlight any disparity between blacks and whites — whatever the reason and no matter how slight the disparity – have said not a word about the effect of illegal immigration on blacks.
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Therein lies the problem to be kicked down the road. Good luck in finding a way to create an effective method that creates a workable "safety net." Ever increasing population levels are clearly marginal as a "fix" at best. An economic system that considers 3% unemployment as "full" (though current economic theory may place it higher) in order to allow the optimal economic and power balance between management and labor is suspect.
The "productive" life of boomers might be over, depending on perspective, but we are still consumers, the fuel that drives the economy. I own my house. I pay taxes, my utility bills, restaurant bills, Target bills, et cetera, et cetera, etc. They don't give a crap where my money is generated. What counts is that I give it and they get it. The ball keeps spinning.
Unemployment compensation, Social Security, Medicare, WIC, Food Stamps and other programs are all the grease that help keep the wheels turning. Yes, there IS waste, fraud and inefficiency here and there --- but where is that NOT true in large and complex institutions or enterprises?
Look at Wall Street. The "Free Market" is neither the solution nor the Holy Grail without oversight and vigilance.
The "productive" life of boomers might be over, depending on perspective, but we are still consumers, the fuel that drives the economy. I own my house. I pay taxes, my utility bills, restaurant bills, Target bills, et cetera, et cetera, etc. They don't give a crap where my money is generated. What counts is that I give it and they get it. The ball keeps spinning.
Unemployment compensation, Social Security, Medicare, WIC, Food Stamps and other programs are all the grease that help keep the wheels turning. Yes, there IS waste, fraud and inefficiency here and there --- but where is that NOT true in large and complex institutions or enterprises?
Look at Wall Street. The "Free Market" is neither the solution nor the Holy Grail without oversight and vigilance.
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I think most know that I tend to lean right more than left on most issues.
But when it comes to these issues, I find myself agreeing with both sides. But from a pure fiscal standpoint, the people that are here today are already draining our resources. So, they are not going to all of sudden add this huge burdensome debt to our already fragile finances. Instead, force them to pay FICA and Medicare (IRS estimates 45% work off the books), force their employers to pay FICA and Medicare and grow the base of taxpayers. As many point out, while many low income workers are "net-takers" in the fiscal sense (consume more than then the contribute), incrementally, the US fiscal state should win by forcing all these people to pay payroll taxes.
In reality, as with most political things, the best solution lies somewhere in the middle. The right needs to give and the left needs to give. That is all I was trying to say before.
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When you stop working and retire, how much are you planning on spending relative to when you were working? If you are like the typical person, you will see a 14% decline in spending as noted in the link below.
Also, as many have noted previously, the FICA taxes have been used to offset shortfalls elsewhere and to limit (to an extent) borrowing. Without any fixes, we will actually need to payout more than what we take in, which creates a fiscal problem for the US where either taxes need to be raised (without incrementally spending more) or other programs need to be cut. So, while you are still consuming, it is diverting resources.
Surveys of retirement spending - Bogleheads
dshans
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Without following the link you graciously provided, I can assure you that my spending has been reduced significantly already. I paid off the mortgage on my house nearly three years ago. That leaves me with sustenance and discretionary spending. I crunched the numbers shortly after I "purchased" my house. Over thirty years I'd have paid close to three times the price to account for interest. I paid it off in twenty-four saving a bunch o' bucks. My mortgage, through the years, was "owned" by at least four different businesses entities.
For all I know my obligation was bundled at some point into what eventually was part of the undoing of the real estate market. Ten to twelve years ago my house was valued at a price point that would have covered the purchase price, interest on the loan, insulation and the kitchen rehab. The addition of a garage, new roof, window replacement, new siding and additional insulation with a re-build of my front porch aren't even close to being covered in today's market.
Your point on FICA is dear to my heart. Attacks on the system, and my opposition to them during the Reagan administration, may well have contributed to my loss of a job. I was working at a Mutual Savings Bank and even taking classes with an MBA as a goal. A hippie goes main stream, I know.
At the time there were schemes afoot to circumvent Social Security (FICA) payments through some smoke-and-mirrors maneuvers. I advised against it. My In-laws depended on Social Security, that they'd paid into, for their livelihood. My father-in-law had been screwed out of a pension because the company he'd worked for forty years (and had changed ownership three or four times over those years) forced him to retire when he reached the mandatory age, two weeks before he was "vested" by the new management.
To shorten this tirade: I had no interest in niggling away at the funds that were relatively painless for me but allowed my wife's parents a roof and food on their plates. I had a number of "discussions" with some bank VP. She assured me (in 1982) that Social Security would be bankrupt in ten years. The bank's initial scheme was deemed illegal but subsequent "attacks" were successful. Had sources not been reduced or later raided, the whole system would not be stressed as it is today.
"The greatest of these is Charity."
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A reasonable response. Thanks.
I was taken aback by your comment about the crazy right. Do you think my position is crazy?