Arian Foster Takes Money At UT

[Grahambo]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Arian Foster: "I feel like I shouldn't have to run from the ncaa anymore" <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&src=hash">#Texans</a></p>— Tania Ganguli (@taniaganguli) <a href="https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/statuses/381134700485419008">September 20, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>"They have us hoodwinked into thinking taking money is wrong" Arian Foster <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&src=hash">#Texans</a></p>— Tania Ganguli (@taniaganguli) <a href="https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/statuses/381136752116645888">September 20, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>After initially declining to talk, Arian Foster changed his mind and spent 8 minutes and 50 seconds taking on the NCAA. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&src=hash">#Texans</a></p>— Tania Ganguli (@taniaganguli) <a href="https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/statuses/381137119550668800">September 20, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Arian Foster on the NCAA: "They’re like these big bullies. I’m not scared of them." <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&src=hash">#Texans</a></p>— Tania Ganguli (@taniaganguli) <a href="https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/statuses/381137998353805313">September 20, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Arian Foster on amateurism in college sports: "It’s just been a big charade for years. It’s about time for it to come to an end."</p>— Tania Ganguli (@taniaganguli) <a href="https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/statuses/381138982496899072">September 20, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>"I thought about the consequences of everything. I felt like the reward far outweighed the risk." Arian Foster on saying he took money at UT</p>— Tania Ganguli (@taniaganguli) <a href="https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/statuses/381140623954563073">September 20, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>I asked Foster how he'd respond to those (like many in my mentions right now) who say players get a free education in exchange for playing.</p>— Tania Ganguli (@taniaganguli) <a href="https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/statuses/381142282726293505">September 20, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>"It’s not free. You put in the work. I go to work every single day as a professional athlete. I practice, I left weights..." Foster (1/2)</p>— Tania Ganguli (@taniaganguli) <a href="https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/statuses/381142499345317888">September 20, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>"...That’s my job. Those athletes at that level are doing the exact same thing. Except I can go make money off of my name." Foster (2/2)</p>— Tania Ganguli (@taniaganguli) <a href="https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/statuses/381142646808666112">September 20, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[ndcoltsfan2010]

Hmmmm..., not surprising, but interesting.

 

[Jebediah Springfield]

They should start writing articles about star players that DIDN"T take money. Now that would be an interesting read.

 

[rikkitikki08]

Remember when Arian Foster first broke out and was pretty humble? Yeah that guy is long gone

 

[BGIF]

"I left weights"

 

[BGIF]

Arian Foster admits in documentary he took money at Tennessee - College Football - SI.com

He didn't have enough money to pay the rent and buy food.

Live in the dorm!

Eat at the training table!

Your money would've been enough.

 

[loomis41973]

YaawwNN

 

[sparkyND]

I can understand that he wants to be frank about his past. I can also understand that NCAA violations has been/are going on behind the scenes for quite some time as well. But isn't he getting his coach(es) and his institution (alma mater) in trouble by revealing such things? Being forced to reveal through some external/internal investigation and just saying it in a documentary are two very different things. I am glad that his statements, at least to a certain extent, will contribute in revealing the organized hypocracy that has been going on at major universities when it comes to college sports. But then again how stupid do you have to be to make statements like this without thinking about the consequences.

PS: I also find it strange that somehow putting in effort/work playing the sport in college can somewhat substitute a college degree. His statement (quoted on the twitter update at the top) just seems to be making a mockery of college education in general.

 

[military_irish]

I will never understand an athlete that complains about not being paid in college. NO ONE and I mean NO ONE forces them to play a sport. The rules state don't take money. If you can't live by those rules find another path in life.

If they talk about jersey sales that they contribute to, that is misleading. If I go to the Notre Dame bookstore and buy a #3 jersey, why should Carlisle reap the benefits or get the recognition for those sales. I may have wanted it for a Michael Floyd throwback jersey.

Another thing if a college student starts making thousands and more than likely millions of dollars at the age of 17-20 years old. In my opinion that will be more detrimental than having to suffer for those same amount of years. We see players in the NFL that can't manage their money and fizzle out of the league, what makes anyone think these college kids could learn to manage anything other than their "swag".

I wasn't taught how to manage my money properly until I was half way through my military enlistment then even more in my college years after the fact.

Just my two cents

 

[BobD]

It surprises me that many people don't realize how prevalent this is throughout D-1. I think a whole can of worms is getting ready to blow up on the NCAA.

 

[returnofthemack]

Arian Foster admits in documentary he took money at Tennessee - College Football - SI.com

He didn't have enough money to pay the rent and buy food.

Live in the dorm!

Eat at the training table!

Your money would've been enough.

EXACTLY. I understand some of the players may come from a poor background where their parents can't supplement what the school gives them for the weekend. I highly doubt the $87/month that he specified is accurate, but if so, then they should have more than that. That is the only thing that needs to be changed. The players get a per diem when they travel for away games that they should easily be able to save the majority of. His rent off campus would be taken care of, and if he opted out of the meal plan, he gets the equivalent of how much the meal plan would cost. Players should not be paid. If they're famous enough that they're making their school millions, they should also remind themselves of the school providing them exposure, and more importantly a free education. Complete BS. They enjoy more perks than normal students already, there's no need to pay them.

 

[GowerND11]

Next we'll see high school players asking to get paid

But seriously, I'm sick of these guys acting like victims. They played a sport they love, something I wish I could have done still in college. They now are in the NFL making good money, very good money. The rules are very easy to understand, "Don't get paid to play." You, as an American, have a decision. Understand your agreement and get the free education while playing a sport you love, and maybe making it to the NFL, or don't play, don't receive the free education, and have no chance at the NFL. It seems simple enough to me.

 

[Woneone]

It surprises me that many people don't realize how prevalent this is throughout D-1. I think a whole can of worms is getting ready to blow up on the NCAA.

Rant

The sad thing is that we're so sure that "everyone is doing it", that we neglect the fact that the entire mission of amateur athletics really boils down to the graduation of college athletes.

Which is something no one really does anymore, or at least doesn't give the impression that they care.

We're now placated with this idea that the currency of college athletics is $, when it should be an education. You go to college to be educated in a career path of your choosing. You want to be a teacher? You go to college. Want to be an accountant? You go to school. Want to be a pro football player? Well, that depends.

ESPN and all the major media sites keep putting this on the NCAA. Yea, the NCAA is a backwards bunch of morons. We can all agree to that.

But in 1984, that all changed. The NCAA lost a case against Oklahoma (I'm just paraphrasing, feel free to fill in the actual details) that basically prevented schools/conferences from seeking TV deals on their own. And the floodgates were opened.

The bully that was the NCAA got punched in the face by the kid it always picked on. But instead of just teaching the bully a lesson, they've piled on. And now, with their media overlords paving the streets with gold, the NCAA has been rendered basically helpless right now.

And let's be honest, that's how the majority of the major conferences and TV sponsors want it. Pay athletes. Not because it furthers the cause of the NCAA, to provide opportunity, advance academics, and teach life skills. No, it's to increase the product on the field. To make it more marketable. To drive the bottom line.

You want to pay athletes? Don't look at the NCAA. Look at the NFL. They're preventing the players from making a living right out of high school. Oh, but that's right. What media person, in their right mind, would jeopardize their standing with the NFL? Won't be ESPN. Won't be FOX. Won't be CBS or NBC. Na, it's much easier to hit the ol' punching bag, the NCAA.

They don't care about the athletes. If they did, they'd focus on what schools aren't doing, instead of what they are.

/Rant

 

[greyhammer90]

Yeah I went to UT. They get a free room at Gibbs hall and get food to eat at Gibbs that is HANDS DOWN the best cafeteria on campus. It's so good me and my friends ate there once and immediately changed our meal plans to walk from freshman dorms to Gibbs three times a day.

We're talking fresh food like salmon and steak with sandwich bars where they'll make you whatever you want. And the Cafeteria workers ALWAYS make sure that there are plenty of the main courses out when they get out of practice. So the "I need food" is bullsh*t.

 

[GoIrish41]

Foster wasn't even that good in college. Who the hell was paying him?

 

[irishff1014]

Typical sec player the world owes me everything attitude.

 

[Junkhead]

Typical sec player the world owes me everything attitude.

They want me to think a free education is enough, and I actually have to go to class for free?

 

[phork]

Nobody goes to college to go sit in a classroom.

 

[frankygoes69]

If a player wants to be paid:

Calculate the total cost of tuition.

Calculate books, computers, paper, pens, pencils, paper, etc.

Calculate total cost of meals needed.

Calculate total cost of room and board.

Calculate total cost of uniforms, practice, and game day plus equipment.

Calculate stipend.

Total all calculations, pay the player understand that they need to pay for total calculations and then they become adults.

For an ND degree the 40 year investment should speak and pay for itself. Athletes play hard, academic students study hard, band members play hard and all others pave their own ways whether we pay them or not.

I guess people cannot be happy with what they get or receive. Greed is horrible amongst the masses. Good luck kids and make the best of your youths (paid or not) because it goes by really fast.

 

[phork]

If a player wants to be paid:

Calculate the total cost of tuition.

Calculate books, computers, paper, pens, pencils, paper, etc.

Calculate total cost of meals needed.

Calculate total cost of room and board.

Calculate total cost of uniforms, practice, and game day plus equipment.

Calculate stipend.

Total all calculations, pay the player understand that they need to pay for total calculations and then they become adults.

For an ND degree the 40 year investment should speak and pay for itself. Athletes play hard, academic students study hard, band members play hard and all others pave their own ways whether we pay them or not.

I guess people cannot be happy with what they get or receive. Greed is horrible amongst the masses. Good luck kids and make the best of your youths (paid or not) because it goes by really fast.

Factor in Jersey sales and everything else that the University makes a profit on and you got a deal. Make sure the player gets his cut from all those sales.

 

[Booslum31]

If a player wants to be paid:

Calculate the total cost of tuition.

Calculate books, computers, paper, pens, pencils, paper, etc.

Calculate total cost of meals needed.

Calculate total cost of room and board.

Calculate total cost of uniforms, practice, and game day plus equipment.

Calculate stipend.

Total all calculations, pay the player understand that they need to pay for total calculations and then they become adults.

For an ND degree the 40 year investment should speak and pay for itself. Athletes play hard, academic students study hard, band members play hard and all others pave their own ways whether we pay them or not.

I guess people cannot be happy with what they get or receive. Greed is horrible amongst the masses. Good luck kids and make the best of your youths (paid or not) because it goes by really fast.

Franky is spot on. Though Franky has started a good list, he/she is not even close with the total costs associated with the football program and all that goes in to supporting the infrastructure. It's hard enough on a kid to play football and go to school...there would be a huge additional distraction if they were also trying to capitalize financially at the same time. They had nothing to do with the investment of the program over the decades so they should have nothing to do with the profits. NOTHING!

 

[T Town Tommy]

Franky is spot on. Though Franky has started a good list, he/she is not even close with the total costs associated with the football program and all that goes in to supporting the infrastructure. It's hard enough on a kid to play football and go to school...there would be a huge additional distraction if they were also trying to capitalize financially at the same time. They had nothing to do with the investment of the program over the decades so they should have nothing to do with the profits. NOTHING!

Meanwhile Texas A&M announces public contributions to the school for 2012 were a staggering $750 million.

 

[Booslum31]

Meanwhile Texas A&M announces public contributions to the school for 2012 were a staggering $750 million.

I hear ya. I guess eventually i'll just have to be a HS football fan...it should take awhile before the whole profiting argument trickles down to that level.

 

[FearTheBeard]

Factor in Jersey sales and everything else that the University makes a profit on and you got a deal. Make sure the player gets his cut from all those sales.

Jersey sales? What about when chris brown and jackson have the same number? Or if someone wants to buy a number 9 jersey because they liked zbikowski? Its kinda hard to determine whos responsible for that person wanting to buy the jersey.

Also, what about your lineman...i bet johnny football wouldnt have done what he did if it were for his left tackle being so good. Or if he had a center who had trouble getting the ball snapped to the right area. Its a team sport and without the other players supporting them they wouldnt be as successful. The other players are responsible for the success of the superstars as well, you cant pin a teams success or money the school makes based off of just a few players.

Im sick of the argument of these athletes being "exploited" or some ****. Its the real world, just like if someone doesnt like their job because theyre not paid well enough or some other reason then they can go find a new one. If you dont like the system dont play football in the NCAA. Athletes are compensated just fine if you factor in everything they get.

 

[Booslum31]

Jersey sales? What about when chris brown and jackson have the same number? Or if someone wants to buy a number 9 jersey because they liked zbikowski? Its kinda hard to determine whos responsible for that person wanting to buy the jersey.

Also, what about your lineman...i bet johnny football wouldnt have done what he did if it were for his left tackle being so good. Or if he had a center who had trouble getting the ball snapped to the right area. Its a team sport and without the other players supporting them they wouldnt be as successful. The other players are responsible for the success of the superstars as well, you cant pin a teams success or money the school makes based off of just a few players.

Im sick of the argument of these athletes being "exploited" or some ****. Its the real world, just like if someone doesnt like their job because theyre not paid well enough or some other reason then they can go find a new one. If you dont like the system dont play football in the NCAA. Athletes are compensated just fine if you factor in everything they get.

Good points. It's actually pretty simple if they want to profit from college athletics and get more out of it than the free tuition, room, board, etc. They just need to start a new college/university of their own. You know...from scratch.

 

[kmoose]

Also, what about your lineman...i bet johnny football wouldnt have done what he did if it were for his left tackle being so good. Or if he had a center who had trouble getting the ball snapped to the right area. Its a team sport and without the other players supporting them they wouldnt be as successful. The other players are responsible for the success of the superstars as well, you cant pin a teams success or money the school makes based off of just a few players.

There's always Isotoners:


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[BobD]

Football players from multiple schools mark gear in protest to NCAA - ESPN

 

[Kak7304]

Former MSU RB

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>I don't understand y everyone is making a big deal over Arian Foster saying he got money while he was in college. News flash We all did.</p>— Jehuu Caulcrick (@JehuuCaulcrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/JehuuCaulcrick/statuses/381611584952360960">September 22, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[Irish YJ]

Jersey sales? What about when chris brown and jackson have the same number? Or if someone wants to buy a number 9 jersey because they liked zbikowski? Its kinda hard to determine whos responsible for that person wanting to buy the jersey.

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Put their names on the back of the jerseys... problem solved.

 

[phork]

Jersey sales? What about when chris brown and jackson have the same number? Or if someone wants to buy a number 9 jersey because they liked zbikowski? Its kinda hard to determine whos responsible for that person wanting to buy the jersey.

Also, what about your lineman...i bet johnny football wouldnt have done what he did if it were for his left tackle being so good. Or if he had a center who had trouble getting the ball snapped to the right area. Its a team sport and without the other players supporting them they wouldnt be as successful. The other players are responsible for the success of the superstars as well, you cant pin a teams success or money the school makes based off of just a few players.

Lineman aren't the all stars on football teams, no matter how good they are. Your glory boys are QBs, RBs, WRs, TEs possibly CBs & kick returners.

Johnny Football throws for 500 yards, 5 TDs and runs for another 100 and 2 TDs. Not Johnny Football & The O-Line. #2 Texas A&M jerseys are selling because of Johnny Football. The rarity of people buying a #9 for Zibby at this point and time is irrelevant. How you discern who people are buying? Put names on the backs. Done.