George Zimmerman Trial

[STLDomer]

irishpat183,

This should be your pic:

That is all

 

[Rhode Irish]

This was pretty much inevitable in my view. Obviously, I think its a shame, but this is our system for better or worse. I don't care what side of this argument you've been on here. Nobody should be celebrating. There is still a dead kid as a result of this whole mess.
I sincerely hope there are no riots.

 

[T Town Tommy]

It would probably help things if the SA and her prosecutors would make a simple statement that they are disappointed in the verdict but respect it. Instead, they are still trying the case in front of the media. Sad.

 

[Grahambo]

Read my next post. I'm just really uneasy about this whole thing.

It seems that there was probably reasonable doubt. But a kid is dead and it doesn't seem that there's very good reason for it. That's all I'm trying to say.

Fair. It sounded you were heading down a different path.

 

[AFisch86]

Finding him guilty would be another blow to our judicial system. Murders happen everyday just like this and sick reporters going around looking for something that begs for the nations interest. No witnesses to this particular one. How could you find him guilty. Maybe he is maybe he is not . Either way how can you prove it? Innocent until proven guilty.

 

[ShawneeIrish]

Regardless if you believe their should have been a conviction or not it is laughable to say race did not play a role and that the media whipped up a racial fury. Just nonsense. If race was not a role in this case do you truly believe had a white kid gone to buy skittles in Compton or East St. Louis and on his walk back a black man that was not a law enforcement officer but viewed himself as a defender of the neighborhood followed the unarmed white kid and a fight resulted at which point the black man was getting beat up and shot and killed the white kid that the black man would not go to jail? Even if you feel Zimmerman should not have been convicted under the same facts a black man would have been much, much, more likely to be convicted. So race is definitely a factor in this case and in the criminal justice system in America period.

 

[EddytoNow]

Don't really understand. He chased the kid down after being told to stand down. It's a terrible story either way.

He didn't chase the kid down. He tried to maintain eye contact with an unknown person until the police arrived.

He also wasn't told to stand down, the dispatcher advised him that he didn't need to follow the unknown person. The dispatcher specifically stated that he never told GZ not follow the unknown person because the police department could be held liable for the consequences of giving such an order.

The area had been victimized by several burglaries and break-ins, and GZ called the non-emergency number to request that a police officer come to check the situation out. TM could have walked home or waited for the police to arrive. Instead, he chose to confront GZ and started a fight that resulted in his own death.

 

[drayer54]

Read my next post. I'm just really uneasy about this whole thing.

It seems that there was probably reasonable doubt. But a kid is dead and it doesn't seem that there's very good reason for it. That's all I'm trying to say.

Nobody is celebrating the death. People are happy the system worked. GZ isn't going to have it easy.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

He didn't chase the kid down. He tried to maintain eye contact with an unknown person until the police arrived.

He also wasn't told to stand down, the dispatcher advised him that he didn't need to follow the unknown person. The dispatcher specifically stated that he never told GZ not follow the unknown person because the police department could be held liable for the consequences of giving such an order.

The area had been victimized by several burglaries and break-ins, and GZ called the non-emergency number to request that a police officer come to check the situation out. TM could have walked home or waited for the police to arrive. Instead, he chose to confront GZ and started a fight that resulted in his own death.

Dispatcher: Are you following him?
Zimmerman: Yeah
Dispatcher: Okay, we don't need you to do that.


I guess I'd stop following him.

 

[Woneone]

Regardless if you believe their should have been a conviction or not it is laughable to say race did not play a role and that the media whipped up a racial fury. Just nonsense. If race was not a role in this case do you truly believe had a white kid gone to buy skittles in Compton or East St. Louis and on his walk back a black man that was not a law enforcement officer but viewed himself as a defender of the neighborhood followed the unarmed white kid and a fight resulted at which point the black man was getting beat up and shot and killed the white kid that the black man would not go to jail? Even if you feel Zimmerman should not have been convicted under the same facts a black man would have been much, much, more likely to be convicted. So race is definitely a factor in this case and in the criminal justice system in America period.

I posted this earlier --

Trevor Dooley sentenced to 8 years for manslaughter | Tampa Bay Times

70 Year old black man get's into an argument with a 40-year old white guy at a park.

Long story short, he shot the white guy. In front of his eight year old daughter. This after he flashed his gun as a sign of intimidation. White guy grabs him, they wrestle, black guy shoots him.

No, not murder 2. Manslaughter. Which is what GZ should probably get.

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In my view, they were trying to punish GZ in a way with the charges because he was "white". They were trying to make a statement in a high profile case, "See, we're the law, and we're tough on whites tooo!!!!!!".

If they would have went directly to Manslaughter, instead of Murder 2, I believe we would have seen the exact same outcome as above.

But I guess we'll never know. Since, you know, the charges were brought based on the color of someone's skin. Just not the person you're thinking.

 

[gkIrish]

Glad the jury came to the correct legal conclusion.

 

[BobD]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, no gun and we would never have heard of George Zimmerman or Trayvon Martin. Fact.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Nobody is celebrating the death. People are happy the system worked. GZ isn't going to have it easy.

Sure. I can understand that perspective.

I'm just a bit sick to my stomach right now and trying to imagine if Trayvon was my kid.

 

[gkIrish]

People on my twitter feed and Facebook wall are calling for someone to assassinate GZ. Seriously?

 

[irishpat183]

Don't worry...just check out twitter and the intelligent comments coming from tr new Justice for Trayvon gang...sheesh.

One guy just said he's getting flat screen. Another asked us all to "grab our blue rags" and riot.

 

[irishpat183]

People on my twitter feed and Facebook wall are calling for someone to assassinate GZ. Seriously?

I can't believe some of the ignorance.

I guess Trayvon would've wanted it that way?

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, no gun and we would never have heard of George Zimmerman or Trayvon Martin. Fact.

Or.... Mr. Martin would have been in the defendant box and Mr. Zimmerman would have been dead. Who's to say?

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Don't worry...just check out twitter and the intelligent comments coming from tr new Justice for Trayvon gang...sheesh.

One guy just said he's getting flat screen. Another asked us all to "grab our blue rags" and riot.

Yeah. Twitter is where you really get the intelligent conversations.

 

[BobD]

Or.... Mr. Martin would have been in the defendant box and Mr. Zimmerman would have been dead. Who's to say?

My contention is George Zimmerman doesn't get out of his car without that gun.

 

[GoIrish41]

My contention is George Zimmerman doesn't get out of his car without that gun.

This

 

[Canton_Irish]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, no gun and we would never have heard of George Zimmerman or Trayvon Martin. Fact.

If he had a hunting knife in his belt he could have killed him just as easily.


I know, let's just outlaw all weapons and no one will ever get hurt!!!1!!


Get real.

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

My contention is George Zimmerman doesn't get out of his car without that gun.

Got it.

 

[irishpat183]

irishpat183,

This should be your pic:

That is all

I do specialize on the lawyerings...mainly, bird law


If I wasn't via phone right now, I'd honor your request. I aim to please

 

[IrishJayhawk]

I can't believe some of the ignorance.

I guess Trayvon would've wanted it that way?

Your compassion is palpable.

 

[irishpat183]

Yeah. Twitter is where you really get the intelligent conversations.

I don't even have a twitter account, but I'm reading some of the stuff posted... My god

 

[IrishJayhawk]

I don't even have a twitter account, but I'm reading some of the stuff posted... My god

I don't either. But, I'll bet the other side is just as "reasonable."

 

[jmurphy75]

Regardless if you believe their should have been a conviction or not it is laughable to say race did not play a role and that the media whipped up a racial fury. Just nonsense. If race was not a role in this case do you truly believe had a white kid gone to buy skittles in Compton or East St. Louis and on his walk back a black man that was not a law enforcement officer but viewed himself as a defender of the neighborhood followed the unarmed white kid and a fight resulted at which point the black man was getting beat up and shot and killed the white kid that the black man would not go to jail? Even if you feel Zimmerman should not have been convicted under the same facts a black man would have been much, much, more likely to be convicted. So race is definitely a factor in this case and in the criminal justice system in America period.

That's just your opinion, and you're welcome to it everybody has one. I went out for drinks last night to our local Tilted Kilt with 2 of my close friends Mike and Yusef who happen to be black. They both have the same opinion as I do, which is that the media, Al, and Jesse made this about race when they thought GZ was white. They both also said they wouldn't be wandering around the area at night in the rain. Mike happens to be the Assistant Principal at Seminole High School in Sanford (pretty rough school) in the immediate area of where this all went down. My point is this wasn't about race, it was made to be about race.

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

Nancy Grace is such a horrible actor, contrarian, douche... That is all.

 

[irishpat183]

Your compassion is palpable.

That was a question directed at the idiots that are justifying attacking (or threatening to) innocent people because of this circus put on.

No, I don't feel any compassion for some jackass that feels he needs to steal a TV, or bash a guys head in, because of "oppression"

 

[irishpat183]

I don't either. But, I'll bet the other side is just as "reasonable."

This isn't a pissing contest. I was just stating that the crap I'm reading is ignorant.


As anyone cheering as if they won something is an idiot.

Am I glad GZ was found innocent in a court of law?? Yes.

Am I happy TM died? Hell no. It's terrible.