'14 GA DE Lorenzo Carter (Georgia Signed LOI)

[fightingirish26]

I thought I heard three not group

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

That's because you wanted to hear three, haha.

 

[Luckylucci]

My biggest take away was that he distinguished that ND is different. Whether that is something he wants is TBD but the first step is realizing its different from the rest. Looking at you KC, haha.

 

[fightingirish26]

That's because you wanted to hear three, haha.

Indeed I did haha

 

[GoldenToTheGrave]

Having Carter and Smith lined up opposite each other would likely be a historically good OLB combo.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

It may sound pretentious as all hell, but when I hear a defensive stud speak it tends to tell me a lot... If they are articulate and well spoken I think, "ND has a shot", if they sound like any random member of Alabama's defensive squad I think, " yeah, no way in hell here,"

After hearing that interview, ND has a shot.

This is a great post ACamp! Some people see the value in the intangibles that ND offers. Some people don't. Those (latter) people just want to talk championships and path to NFL. You picked right up on his responsibility and his focus on his end goal, (or so I believe.)

The former want to see all that they will get and are interested in the process. More, they realize that they have to personalized it, and ask themselves, how hard am I willing to work? 80 - 90 percent of the kids won't. Those that do, are candidates for ND. They start out by taking responsibility for their actions, by deciding the work they are willing to do to get the results they want. Carter is one of these.

And he doesn't feel like he owes anything to Mike Frank, you, me, or Nick Saban. Lorenzo Carter is one of the most mature, high functioning, character kids of his class. There are others. But I would like to see him Irish.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

PS. He said ND was definitely in his top group. And he went out of his way to say that he wasn't eliminating any schools till he visited them. So he is going to have a rather amorphous group for a while. (But I believe ND is moving up with a bullet.)

 

[RuntheBall]

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Wrong Thread

 

[GreenSox04]

After watching that interview.. I like this kid.

 

[Cackalacky]

Nice to hear. Would love to get both Norcross kids.

 

[Irish Steeler]

It may sound pretentious as all hell, but when I hear a defensive stud speak it tends to tell me a lot... If they are articulate and well spoken I think, "ND has a shot", if they sound like any random member of Alabama's defensive squad I think, " yeah, no way in hell here,"

After hearing that interview, ND has a shot.

Agree 100%!!

 

[Sherm Sticky]

It worries me when the defensive recruits talk highly about Diaco and that they like him...I just don't think Diaco will be the defensive coordinator come 2014.

Also, I completely agree that this kid is smart and very well spoken.

 

[DillonHall]

It may sound pretentious as all hell, but when I hear a defensive stud speak it tends to tell me a lot... If they are articulate and well spoken I think, "ND has a shot", if they sound like any random member of Alabama's defensive squad I think, " yeah, no way in hell here,"

After hearing that interview, ND has a shot.

There are plenty of ND football players who aren't especially articulate

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

There are plenty of ND football players who aren't especially articulate

Bite your tongue.

 

[ACamp1900]

There are plenty of ND football players who aren't especially articulate

Not one that sounds even close to your average SEC DT... Sorry.

 

[Kak7304]

There are plenty of ND football players who aren't especially articulate

Not all have to sound like a genius when they speak, but we also haven't had a Chris Johnson or Devin Hester.

 

[Son of Kenmare]

Not one that sounds even close to your average SEC DT... Sorry.

People are raised in differing situations, we shouldn't judge a book by it's cover or a person by their speaking patterns. I once witnessed a gentleman with a deliberate southern drawl em embarrass a bunch of Yankee engineers. The setup was a thing of beauty.

They aren't all like the cast of moonshiners.

 

[STLDomer]

It worries me when the defensive recruits talk highly about Diaco and that they like him...I just don't think Diaco will be the defensive coordinator come 2014.

Also, I completely agree that this kid is smart and very well spoken.

I don't really get this post, it worries you the prospects like our DC? The only alternative to them liking Diaco is not liking him which would means they likely wouldn't even consider ND then.

 

[Luckylucci]

Some people just don't speak well while on camera, most likely because of nerves. When Andrew Luck was a sophomore I remember watching an after game interview with my friend and my friend looked at me and starting cracking up because it didn't make much sense.

 

[Irish To The Core]

It is way too early to start getting excited about Carter & Smith as bookend OLBs...but I am anyway. Carter + Smith would be a legend waiting to be written.

 

[Rack Em]

I really don't think we should read too much into Carter's character off one interview with the ISD staff. Many Irish fans (and many on this site) touted EV as having his head on right, being a thoughtful young man, yada yada yada when he started to consider Notre Dame more heavily. Clearly he has very poor character.

I'm not suggesting anything about Carter's character. And I highly recommend no one read as much into his interview. That's silly because 1) it alienates recruits that don't express themselves well and 2) equates a recruit's composure to his character. We as a fanbase have been easily fooled in the past.

 

[Domina Nostra]

I really don't think we should read too much into Carter's character off one interview with the ISD staff. Many Irish fans (and many on this site) touted EV as having his head on right, being a thoughtful young man, yada yada yada when he started to consider Notre Dame more heavily. Clearly he has very poor character.

I'm not suggesting anything about Carter's character. And I highly recommend no one read as much into his interview. That's silly because 1) it alienates recruits that don't express themselves well and 2) equates a recruit's composure to his character. We as a fanbase have been easily fooled in the past.

Agreed. Although I do think the "it's just different test" is pretty important.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I really don't think we should read too much into Carter's character off one interview with the ISD staff. Many Irish fans (and many on this site) touted EV as having his head on right, being a thoughtful young man, yada yada yada when he started to consider Notre Dame more heavily. Clearly he has very poor character.

I'm not suggesting anything about Carter's character. And I highly recommend no one read as much into his interview. That's silly because 1) it alienates recruits that don't express themselves well and 2) equates a recruit's composure to his character. We as a fanbase have been easily fooled in the past.

I do not mean any disrespect toward EV his family, or anyone. But let's set the record straight. There were a lot of people trying to fit EV as an ND guy, without a lot of evidence either way. People may have gone on about EV, but that was desired influence. People talking about EV's "well spoken-ness" was akin to waking up with an alcohol fueled date for the night (drunken pick-up) and talking about how she wasn't that bad looking because she had small feet. EV spent a lot of time talking about nothing, (and people made more than a few comments about his press release statements). When he talked people saw him dominating from sideline to sideline. That is a big reason why I didn't think we had a chance with him until (strangely enough), I actually knew someone that called me because they heard this (his) mother going crazy about ND, and sending her son there to play football.

Lorenzo Carter actually said in his interview that it wasn't all about football, or even the education, he actually referred to some intangible things, and he also referred to the fact that what he would get out it was relative to what he would put in to it; that he was responsible for that whole enterprise, though he stated that ND had more to offer than many other schools in that avenue. The other candidates or recruits that I remember saying anything about that in the last few years? Jaylon Smith, Corey Robinson, TJ Jones, Zack Martin, Malik Ziare, Elijah Hood, Manti Te'o, Mathias Farley, Sheldon Day, Michael Deeb, sort of, and Steve Elmer.

 

[Rack Em]

Agreed. Although I do think the "it's just different test" is pretty important.

I also believe that's a good indicator. But it just sets us up to look like dumbasses if we proclaim someone to be an "ND guy" based on a few interviews and then something happens a la Everett Golson.

Carry on.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I also believe that's a good indicator. But it just sets us up to look like dumbasses if we proclaim someone to be an "ND guy" based on a few interviews and then something happens a la Everett Golson.

Carry on.

Good point. It is about the long haul.

Hey Rack, buddy, like your fleur?

 

[Rack Em]

Good point. It is about the long haul.

Hey Rack, buddy, like your fleur?

Smells like roses.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Just when you woke up! LOL!

 

[Sherm Sticky]

I don't really get this post, it worries you the prospects like our DC? The only alternative to them liking Diaco is not liking him which would means they likely wouldn't even consider ND then.

Yeah that post didn't really come out correctly.

What I'm saying is I don't want kids committing to Notre Dame because of Diaco or that Diaco was the deciding factor in them committing.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Yeah that post didn't really come out correctly.

What I'm saying is I don't want kids committing to Notre Dame because of Diaco or that Diaco was the deciding factor in them committing.

We all understood. You don't want any one person to be the lynch-pin in any kids recruitment. That would not bode well if that deified staff member left.

 

[WestCoast]

I do not mean any disrespect toward EV his family, or anyone. But let's set the record straight. There were a lot of people trying to fit EV as an ND guy, without a lot of evidence either way.

Isn't that the message board way? One interview and the guy is "all class." Gives a verbal, is a RKG.

There's more jumping to conclusions than a jump rope competition at an Al Gore global warming summit.