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With that said, until he shows some humility, I will root for him to lose every time he takes the floor.

Even if he plays on an international team during The World Apology Tour.

 

[TheRealLynch51]

No worries, my bad. The same thing you're explaining happened (for different reasons) to Barry Bonds. I will likely never witness a better hitter or better seasons from another player as long as I live but the public HATED Bonds. Also, I blame ESPN for a lot of the LeBron hate.

Dude, just no. Barry Bonds was a roided up cheater. His accomplishments were to due steroids. He doesn't deserve to be in the same breath as someone who can be considered on his way to being one of the best of all time.

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

Dude, just no. Barry Bonds was a roided up cheater. His accomplishments were to due steroids. He doesn't deserve to be in the same breath as someone who can be considered on his way to being one of the best of all time.

Not getting into the entire steroid debate but you are simply wrong that Bonds was only that good because of roids. Bonds was freakish before he blew up and while he may not have ended up with the home runs, he was a HOF talent without them. Bonds was an absurdly talented baseball player.

 

[NDWorld247]

Even if he plays on an international team during The World Apology Tour.

Good point. See, if LeBron consistently showed the humility he does in the video below, I would probably like him. He doesn't say the word "I" once until the very end when they asked him what he's doing after the Olympics. Everything up until that point was "we" and "us". Compare that to the interviews we saw last night, and will see on ESPN all summer, and it's night and day.

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[ShakeDown]

With that said, until he shows some humility, I will root for him to lose every time he takes the floor.

See, this sentiment (which I feel a large group of Bron haters share) is ironic to me when coupled with the "killer instinct" debate. I actually agree that Lebron lacks whatever trait MJ and Kobe have that makes them want to strait embarrass opponents.

I'm not trying to pick on you specifically NDWorld, but it's funny to me what people think Bron is selfish. If anything his game is hindered by his inability to be MORE selfish. I honestly think he could go for 40+ every single game if he wanted to. IMO his issue is he values others validation too much. He wants to be loved. If he ever says " To hell with everyone. I'm the best that ever lived and I'm going to get mine" then watch out MJ.

 

[NDWorld247]

See, this sentiment (which I feel a large group of Bron haters share) is ironic to me when coupled with the "killer instinct" debate. I actually agree that Lebron lacks whatever trait MJ and Kobe have that makes them want to strait embarrass opponents.

I'm not trying to pick on you specifically NDWorld, but it's funny to me what people think Bron is selfish. If anything his game is hindered by his inability to be MORE selfish. I honestly think he could go for 40+ every single game if he wanted to. IMO his issue is he values others validation too much. He wants to be loved. If he ever says " To hell with everyone. I'm the best that ever lived and I'm going to get mine" then watch out MJ.

He can be selfish on the court and humble off of it. Instead, his game is hindered by his inability to be more selfish on the court, as you said, and then off the court he shows little to no humility. My 'hate' for LeBron doesn't really have anything to do with the way he plays basketball. It has everything to do with how he carries himself off the basketball court.

I would absolutely LOVE this guy if he went for 40+ every night and then told reporters how important all of his teammates were and deflected attention. Instead, it's all about him, all the time. This probably has something to do with a combination of factors: a.) people telling him how great he is from a very early age, b.) people blaming him for not winning a championship in Cleveland despite his best efforts, c.) him feeling the need to prove everyone wrong and shine the spotlight on himself when he feels he has done something that should be celebrated, etc.

 

[greyhammer90]

He can be selfish on the court and humble off of it. Instead, his game is hindered by his inability to be more selfish on the court, as you said, and then off the court he shows little to no humility. My 'hate' for LeBron doesn't really have anything to do with the way he plays basketball. It has everything to do with how he carries himself off the basketball court.

I would absolutely LOVE this guy if he went for 40+ every night and then told reporters how important all of his teammates were and deflected attention. Instead, it's all about him, all the time. This probably has something to do with a combination of factors: a.) people telling him how great he is from a very early age, b.) people blaming him for not winning a championship in Cleveland despite his best efforts, c.) him feeling the need to prove everyone wrong and shine the spotlight on himself when he feels he has done something that should be celebrated, etc.

Do you dislike MJ too? Best player ever, but off the court he was a certifiable d*ck who also made everything about himself.

 

[NDWorld247]

Do you dislike MJ too? Best player ever, but off the court he was a certifiable d*ck who also made everything about himself.

Honestly, I've never had strong feelings one way or the other about MJ. I don't particularly like him but don't remember rooting against him either and don't 'hate' him. I'm not sure it's really a fair comparison though. The world we live in today with the excessive media coverage is a lot different than when I was 10-16 yrs old during his prime. To me, growing up, Jordan existed on the court and in commercials. I didn't have to sit through post game interview after post game interview of him telling us how great he was that night.

 

[GreenSox04]

still rattling my vtin can over here..


Edit: KPENN, my man.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Do you dislike MJ too? Best player ever, but off the court he was a certifiable d*ck who also made everything about himself.

Read the bold part. I think its obvious guys like Saban have a right to be arrogant, and guys like Kiffin look annoying doing it.

 

[BobD]

There is no such thing as "The Greatest Player Ever", only the best at the current time.

 

[greyhammer90]

Read the bold part. I think its obvious guys like Saban have a right to be arrogant, and guys like Kiffin look annoying doing it.

You don't think Lebron has earned the right like Jordan has? Not a rhetorical, I really want to know.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

You don't think Lebron has earned the right like Jordan has? Not a rhetorical, I really want to know.

I think trying to compare the two in any capacity is where my problem lies. It's way too early IMO to justify lebron's actions because MJ did it.

lebron certainly has established himself as the best player in the NBA, so he is entitled to a large degree of hubris.