MLB to suspend Arod, Braun, others linked to lab/PEDs

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@SportsCenter: BREAKING: MLB preparing to suspend Alex Rodriguez, Ryan Braun, others; founder of Miami PED clinic is cooperating (via @OTLonESPN).


Outside the lines broke it and its all over twitter, here we go again..
 

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Will be interesting/nauseating to follow whether or not Braun is considered a repeat offender. He got out of the suspension last time on a chain of custody issue but the MLB seemed damned sure that he had tested positive and that they were comfortable punishing him. Yay sports!
 

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Braun deserves longer than 100 game ban....dude lied to the MLB and weaseled his way out of his last ban. In my opinion he's worse than Pete Rose....
 

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In NESN article source says may seek 100 games for Arod, Braun and others. 50 for connection to clinic and 50 for denials to MLB. Also clinic founder is willing to tesify.
 

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Lifetime ban would be more appropriate if they have evidence.
 

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Total BS IMO. Should be no smoking gun = no discipline.

I tend to agree a suspension without a failed drug test or being caught in possession is a bad precedent.

I would also as a Yankees fan love to see Arod retire or for the team to otherwise get out of his albatross of a contract.
 

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I tend to agree a suspension without a failed drug test or being caught in possession is a bad precedent.

I would also as a Yankees fan love to see Arod retire or for the team to otherwise get out of his albatross of a contract.

Not a Yankees fan, but this was the first thing to come to my mind. $100 Million dollar mistake?
 

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Not a Yankees fan, but this was the first thing to come to my mind. $100 Million dollar mistake?

Yeah and to think probably could have let Arod opt out and replace him at that time with Miguel Cabrera...so a mistake on multiple fronts
 

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the entire league has been set up to provide every incentive for players to use PEDs. the last thing the owners wanted back in the 90s was for players to stop using drugs. steroids revived the game; HGH allows their workers to stay off the disabled list; amphetamines allow them to play every night, 6 or 7 nights a week for 6-7 months out of the year, 162 total games plus spring and playoffs!

players can't become free agents until they're in their early 30s, exactly when their bodies start to break down (I say this from experience, and I'm sure it gets worse quickly in the late 30s and early 40s).

It's a moral choice whether or not to break the formal rules in your profession, and of course those who break the formal rules must be held accountable. but this is one of many issues where we focus on individual behavior instead of focusing on the system-level forces that drive behavior. in this case, players were operating in a system which was set up to give them every possible incentive to use PEDs. We get outraged when they respond to those incentives, but we rarely ask why the system was set up the way it was.

Who made money off of steroid use? what would have to change if all PEDs were strictly outlawed in MLB (or other sports)? would they have to scale back to 140 games or fewer? would rosters have to expand if DL stints last longer? would fans be interested in a league where the top HR hitters hit 30 a year, like the late 1970s? who would support those changes and who would oppose them? these are the questions we should be asking.
 

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I'm still waiting for the day when this headline is reference to Tiger Woods. I tell myself that so that I'm not shocked is disappointment when I see it.
 

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That game was on July 24, 2004. If memory serves.

sounds about right. i believe they were down 9-4 when Tek knocked ARod in the face and told him they don't throw at guys hitting .260, get to first base.

a few hours later the great billy mueller ended the comeback by going deep to right off Mo. that was the start of it all...
 

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IIRC, the clinic owner backed up Braun's statement that he never received any treatment there and only appears in "the list" because they hired him as a consultant in his earlier PED test appeal.
 

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Unless this is going to somehow prevent the Chisox from sucking ***, I don't care.
 
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