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Cam reminds me of Mike Hart.
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Bogtrotter07
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Exactly, we got the five freshman early enrollees, all who are doing very well, and some of the same posters that point out how hard it is for a freshman, meaning those freshman to see the field, have Folston, Vanderdoes, Bryant, Smith, and Redfield starting.
Let me make it clear: I WANT EVERYONE TO DO WELL. Freshman, Sophomores (if there are any), Juniors, Seniors, and Fifth-years! But most of all I want the team to do well, and (a close second) none of these kids to be seriously injured.
We will just have to wait and see!
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Cam McDaniel is becoming the Paul Bunyan of IE.
IrishJayhawk
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We just need to recognize that Mike Hart (although he was the 6th ranked all purpose back that year on Rivals) is an anomaly. It's very rare that backs of Cam's stature, recruiting rankings, and offer list become outstanding featured backs. Doesn't mean he can't contribute or that we can't love his game and work ethic. It would just be a very odd thing if he became THE guy.
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Yup.
I just like how calm and relaxed Kelly looked in that April 8th video. He knows there are going to be a lot of talent on that roster next year. Competition will be fierce and this will ultimately make the team very hard to beat no matter who starts.
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Not tall enough ...
If he were here, he'd consume opponents with fireballs from his eyes, and bolts of lightning from his arse.
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What now? There is nothing wrong with his stature 5'10" 200 pounds is very normal for a running back in college. There are many unheralded recruits at RB who go on to very good to great college seasons.
Do you want me to create a list for you?
From the 2008 All Purpose back 3* and lower alone
Jermaine Thomas FSU
Curtis Mcneal USC
Keola Antolin Arizona
Jacquizz Rodgers Oregon St
Dennis Johnson Arkansas
And a couple of others that had ok seasons (think 400 rushing yards (Embry Peeples GT) in a season) and others that moved to defense. That is just from one year. The road is littered with 3* RB that turn in to very good college runningbacks.
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Bogtrotter07
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Few places (threads) where the half-empty heads and the half-full heads are so at odds. Everybody should remember Kelly had done a remarkable job in development, and putting the right players on the field, (or keeping the wrong players off). Time will tell.
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More like Bill Brasky.
Bill Brasky once drank an 8 oz glass of LSD...was in a comma for a week and when he woke up he said: "All in all, I prefer gin."
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Bogtrotter07
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"Bill Brasky is a son of a bitch! . . . "
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Bogtrotter07
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That Brasky once played football, Somb1tch ran 'da ball. Used his own dick as a lead blocker. Man that was one hellava stiff arm, I don't need to tell you!
Irish YJ
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Really put his head down didn't he.
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Bogtrotter07
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Regular battering ram!
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GBdomer
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Never seen a 4th string running back get so much love. Some of you need to let the obsession go.
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Oh my God I was just going to come in here and say I bet we are the only fans who would have the 4th string running back be at the top of the board for weeks.
Cam's a hard worker and all, very talented, I wouldn't be against him getting some reps, but we have a loaded backfield that Cam can be a part of and I wouldn't expect him to be turning any heads
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GBdomer
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Stop your making way to much sense.
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I agree with your conclusion, but can we seriously stop saying "4th string running back." Or are we going to start calling GAIII "3rd string running back," Mahone "5th string running back," and Folston and Bryant "high school running backs?"
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GBdomer
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Who said that?
CraigKrenzel
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Well, if he's saying "4th string running back at the top of the boards" I assume he's meaning "last year Cam was a 4th string running back" - which is true, yes, and which is the logic several folks on here have used in the following way: "Look, he didn't get any time behind Theo Riddick and Cierre Wood! How could he be good!?" (Same logic has been used against GAIII).
This logic just bothers me. It's a non-argument. Am I wrong on this?
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I know Cam is a feel good type of story and obviously he does have talent or he wouldn't be on the team, but he wasn't even ranked very highly out of high school and hasn't done much in college other than run a little against Navy and Miami and show toughness in kick returns.
He's got talent and he can contribute on this team, I won't dispute that.
But we have an extremely talented group back there, so I don't know if he will get as much time as people would like to see. I fully expect Amir, George Atkinson, Will Mahone (not sure why everyone says Cam is the best option/tough nosed running option. Mahone is a great power runner and won scout team player of the year), Greg Bryant and Tarean Folston to shine.
Though maybe one of the freshmen backs will redshirt or not play as much. Cam can get some time in the slot and a little at runningback, and it would be well deserved, but I don't think on a team with this much talent he can be first or second string. Just my opinion
He's got talent and he can contribute on this team, I won't dispute that.
But we have an extremely talented group back there, so I don't know if he will get as much time as people would like to see. I fully expect Amir, George Atkinson, Will Mahone (not sure why everyone says Cam is the best option/tough nosed running option. Mahone is a great power runner and won scout team player of the year), Greg Bryant and Tarean Folston to shine.
Though maybe one of the freshmen backs will redshirt or not play as much. Cam can get some time in the slot and a little at runningback, and it would be well deserved, but I don't think on a team with this much talent he can be first or second string. Just my opinion
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Definitely fair. I think that Cam has been running pretty exclusively with the 2s and Mahone with the third/walk-ons, but surely they'll be seen in different roles regardless of this setup. Ultimately I think Cam sees spot duty, especially if Amir patches up. Take my excitement about guys like Cam and multiply it by ten to get to my excitement over Amir.
I just don't think it's fair to judge either GAIII or Cam on lack of touches last year: we had two high-quality senior running backs who we wanted to lean on with a freshman quarterback taking snaps. There are only so many snaps to go around. It doesn't give us alleged "Cam crazies" much of a leg to stand on to argue that he'll be at the top of the board, but it's equally tough to take this point and argue that he's just not very talented (relative to our other RBs).
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To be fair, at least part of the reason why this thread has been at the top of the board is because so many people posted here to say "stop talking about the 4th string RB." And those people are grossly overstating the Cam "love," too. I don't see anyone saying that he is going to win the Heisman and declare for the draft, just that he could play himself into some touches. I haven't had the privilege of seeing how the two freshman, Mahone and Amir will play at this level in this offense, but I have seen enough of Cam to think that he can find his way into the field and contribute.
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Bogtrotter07
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I will do mine.
Some people deserve respect. Just from the way they work.
Some people don't know how to show respect. Part have no couth; others don't know how to value character.
And finally, of the people that value Cam that have posted on this board; most are respectful, some see his talent, and ability to change direction and accelerate quickly; most are doing it because they don't like to see anyone disrespected by people; and only a few have seen Cam gashing the defense repeatedly in spring scrimmage.
Some people deserve respect. Just from the way they work.
Some people don't know how to show respect. Part have no couth; others don't know how to value character.
And finally, of the people that value Cam that have posted on this board; most are respectful, some see his talent, and ability to change direction and accelerate quickly; most are doing it because they don't like to see anyone disrespected by people; and only a few have seen Cam gashing the defense repeatedly in spring scrimmage.
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Pachuco
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Sorry to keep kicking this horse, but here's one last thought:
When I think of Cam, I think of Robby Toma.
There is something about hard work that you just trust.
It shows itself when maybe you never thought it would.
I'm not expecting Cam to take the bulk of the carries. He might not even make the 2-deep.
It's all speculation at this point.
But what I do know is that when he's been on the field, he's geared up and prepared to the best of his abilities.
If not in the flash, it shows in the grit.
That kind of consistent effort and work ethic is always worth cheering for.
It pushes the other more seemingly "athletic/talented" players to take it to another level.
So this is a very positive discussion to be having about one of our players...
This determination doesn't represent just Cam, but also many other players on our team.
But he's certainly a great example...
CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS SEASON!
Thanks.
When I think of Cam, I think of Robby Toma.
There is something about hard work that you just trust.
It shows itself when maybe you never thought it would.
I'm not expecting Cam to take the bulk of the carries. He might not even make the 2-deep.
It's all speculation at this point.
But what I do know is that when he's been on the field, he's geared up and prepared to the best of his abilities.
If not in the flash, it shows in the grit.
That kind of consistent effort and work ethic is always worth cheering for.
It pushes the other more seemingly "athletic/talented" players to take it to another level.
So this is a very positive discussion to be having about one of our players...
This determination doesn't represent just Cam, but also many other players on our team.
But he's certainly a great example...
CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS SEASON!
Thanks.
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I have to reply (even though it probably furthers the silliness of the thread).
You're assuming that people who don't project Cam as a major contributor/starter/2-deep player are somehow "disrespecting" him or that we can't see his character. I think we all LOVE Cam. He's clearly a hard worker and has some skills. It's not disrespectful on a Notre Dame football board to try to offer an honest assessment of a player's skills. That doesn't mean we're right, but it also doesn't mean we're slighting him.
Your logical leap is this: If you think others on the team are more talented or better than Cam, you're disrespecting him. I would argue that disrespect looks a whole lot different than, "I don't think he's good enough to start in this backfield because we have so much talent there."
It's possible that he'll be a huge contributor, even a featured back. I'd be delighted for that to happen. I'd like the best RBs to get the bulk of the time. If that's him, wonderful! I'm just trying to talk about football.
Time will tell on all of this.
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It will be really exciting to see Cam's thread if he ends up being the leading rusher in the Spring Game. We may see record numbers of posts and total number of people on this site at one time.
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