'12 FL WR Justin Ferguson (Western Michigan Transfer)

Irish Insanity · Mar 27, 2013

Been gone for a day and now we have 2 new transfers. I prefer not to read thru all the pages since the news broke. Anyone care to spell it all out for me please? Thx.

Ironman8 · Mar 27, 2013

Irish Insanity said:
Been gone for a day and now we have 2 new transfers. I prefer not to read thru all the pages since the news broke. Anyone care to spell it all out for me please? Thx.

Neal and Ferguson transferred.

dudesthisisthebest · Mar 27, 2013

Irish Insanity said:
Been gone for a day and now we have 2 new transfers. I prefer not to read thru all the pages since the news broke. Anyone care to spell it all out for me please? Thx.

Neal and Ferguson won't be on ND next season

GoldenIsThyFame · Mar 27, 2013

Irish Insanity said:
Been gone for a day and now we have 2 new transfers. I prefer not to read thru all the pages since the news broke. Anyone care to spell it all out for me please? Thx.

N-e-a-l a-n-d F-e-r-g-u-s-o-n T-r-a-n-s-f-e-r-r-e-d

anarin · Mar 27, 2013

Ironman8 said:
Neal and Ferguson transferred.

What he was trying to spell was....

T.R.A.N.S.F.E.R.R.E.D

Spelling bee champ 4th grade son!!!

anarin · Mar 27, 2013

GoldenIsThyFame said:
N-e-a-l a-n-d F-e-r-g-u-s-o-n T-r-a-n-s-f-e-r-r-e-d

Damn it u beat me to it!

Ironman8 · Mar 27, 2013

GoldenIsThyFame said:
N-e-a-l a-n-d F-e-r-g-u-s-o-n T-r-a-n-s-f-e-r-r-e-d

A man knows when he has been beat. Concede the round.

AllGoldEverything · Mar 27, 2013

Wow, that sucks. Doesn't hurt as much as Neal but still hurts.

Have to go out and sign some big time WR's for this class.

Irish Insanity · Mar 27, 2013

Lol, thanks guys. I know they are transferring. I just meant any details that arose thru the all the info on the many pages since it was announced. Reasons, where......

Ironman8 · Mar 27, 2013

Irish Insanity said:
Lol, thanks guys. I know they are transferring. I just meant any details that arose thru the all the info on the many pages since it was announced. Reasons, where......

There have been quotes from both fathers, but who knows the real story. Not sure it matters much anwyay.

irishff1014 · Mar 27, 2013

Ironman8 said:
There have been quotes from both fathers, but who knows the real story. Not sure it matters much anwyay.

Not to be rude but they are only protecting their sons. Who wouldn't?

Ironman8 · Mar 27, 2013

irishff1014 said:
Not to be rude but they are only protecting their sons. Who wouldn't?

Agreed, which is why I stated I'm not sure it means much anyway. It is the explanation of a father protecting a son, what do you expect them to say? Hence my comment, who knows what the real story is?

Ironman8 · Mar 28, 2013

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Regarding <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23NotreDame">#NotreDame</a>'s latest football transfers, as of this morning, Davonte' Neal is still enrolled at ND. Justin Ferguson is not.</p>— Eric Hansen (@hansenNDInsider) <a href="https://twitter.com/hansenNDInsider/status/317265055630626816">March 28, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Bogtrotter07 · Mar 28, 2013

GoldenIsThyFame said:
This tells me Fergie got Prestwooded

In the middle of the semester? In the middle of the Neal thread?

Irish Insanity said:
The Ferg situation just seems odd to me. Minimal info from anyone but a parent who is understandable protecting his child, then in the middle of a semester he is no longer enrolled. To me Neal is approaching it the right way. I wish he'd stayed, but I understand his desire to be around his newborn and be apart of his life and he seems to be finishing out the semester then transferring. No gap in schooling.

I respect your opinion man, but I gots to believe quitting at the bottom of the hill is all about avoiding the climb. An emergency is an emergency, go. And JF's dad seemed to indicate that there was no problem with the team per, Tony Alford. I think if there would have been a big grade issue, he wouldn't have said anything. But who knows.

Patulski · Mar 28, 2013

KyfightingIrish36 said:
Wake up people. This many transfers in a month is not a good thing.

I think it is a good thing. From my experience, players leave programs in the spring because- after busting their a$$ in winter workouts- they see that they are not going to getting the playing time they expected. They feel their talent isn't being appreciated. Unless you believe Kelly and his class can't evaluate talent, it means competition is fierce and better players are running off the others. The only down side is that when this happens at Alabama, they have an over signed player who steps in. But I'd rather have a tough SOB like Kelly at ND who is pushing kids than having a guy like Weis where kids stuck around but we were soft. A good example is Lynch last year. The sky was falling because he was a former starter, yet our d-line didn't miss a beat. That's the kind of program we have. Every offseason guys are going to walk away.

Bogtrotter07 · Mar 28, 2013

Patulski said:
I think it is a good thing. From my experience, players leave programs in the spring because- after busting their a$$ in winter workouts- they see that they are not going to getting the playing time they expected. They feel their talent isn't being appreciated. Unless you believe Kelly and his class can't evaluate talent, it means competition is fierce and better players are running off the others. The only down side is that when this happens at Alabama, they have an over signed player who steps in. But I'd rather have a tough SOB like Kelly at ND who is pushing kids than having a guy like Weis where kids stuck around but we were soft. A good example is Lynch last year. The sky was falling because he was a former starter, yet our d-line didn't miss a beat. That's the kind of program we have. Every offseason guys are going to walk away.

Last season (for all intentions) was Lynch and Prestwood. One could argue Prestwood really hurt in the larger scheme of things. But we still didn't miss a beat! Rock on, Patulski!

Irish YJ · Mar 29, 2013

TP - any insight you can share on Ferg? If you can't share, can you simply rule out a few things.... Saw your post in DN's thread, hoping you can do the same here :=)

TerryTate · Mar 29, 2013

Depth chart was not working in his favor. New freshmen were impressing. Will probably head south to Florida

TheTurningPoint · Mar 29, 2013

Like I said in the Neal thread the depth chart/workouts/writing on the wall/etc stuff doesnt apply to either situation. Sometimes it just doesnt work out and you get a transfer. The Ferguson family is nothing but classy and the friendly people. Fergs father is a first class guy and im sure he has taught his son the same. Wish nothing but the best for Justin and Davonte. Both have bright futures on and off the field and will def be following their careers in the future. When your speculating just remember that the families of players do read this board and i hope you show respect bc they sacrifice a lot for the team we all love.

Bogtrotter07 · Mar 29, 2013

It will be interesting to watch the careers of all from Lynch to Prestwood; from Ferguson to Neal!

IrishLion · Mar 29, 2013

Bogtrotter07 said:
It will be interesting to watch the careers of all from Lynch to Prestwood; from Ferguson to Neal!

I know he's not the most popular character around these parts, but I think Lynch will be a monster for Willie Taggert at South Florida; I'm rooting for Tagert to do good, so I guess I'm rooting for Lynch as well.

I think Neal could do wonders at UCLA or Cal (I like Sonny Dykes and his offense, so I hope Cal), and Ferguson has plenty of time to find a place he can thrive and grow into a great WR. It hurts to lose talent at WR, but Baby Admiral looks to be ahead of schedule and will be just fine on the outside.

Bogtrotter07 · Mar 29, 2013

IrishLion10 said:
I know he's not the most popular character around these parts, but I think Lynch will be a monster for Willie Taggert at South Florida; I'm rooting for Tagert to do good, so I guess I'm rooting for Lynch as well.

I think Neal could do wonders at UCLA or Cal (I like Sonny Dykes and his offense, so I hope Cal), and Ferguson has plenty of time to find a place he can thrive and grow into a great WR. It hurts to lose talent at WR, but Baby Admiral looks to be ahead of schedule and will be just fine on the outside.

We will see. Shaq Evans did okay. Some do some don't. I wish all the best. but I will be honest. I dont see things going well for Lynch (down to 244lbs, with all the turmoil he has surrounding him) or Jordan Prestwood, at Central Fla. The rest I will refer back to my post again, "we will see!"

IrishLion · Mar 29, 2013

Bogtrotter07 said:
We will see. Shaq Evans did okay. Some do some don't. I wish all the best. but I will be honest. I dont see things going well for Lynch (down to 244lbs, with all the turmoil he has surrounding him) or Jordan Prestwood, at Central Fla. The rest I will refer back to my post again, "we will see!"

I read some USF literature, not sure if it's completely reliable, that said Lynch's weight loss was a planned deal... basically, they prefer him to play DE at 244 and be in top shape, rather than have that bit of extra weight.

Again, though, I'm not a regular to USF news and info so it could be someone trying to make it seem like a good thing that he's lightweight. But to your belief, he wasn't great against the run to begin with, and being 244, even in great shape, isn't going to help him act as a roadblock. But now we're way off topic!

Sherm Sticky · Mar 29, 2013

TheTurningPOint said:
Like I said in the Neal thread the depth chart/workouts/writing on the wall/etc stuff doesnt apply to either situation. Sometimes it just doesnt work out and you get a transfer. The Ferguson family is nothing but classy and the friendly people. Fergs father is a first class guy and im sure he has taught his son the same. Wish nothing but the best for Justin and Davonte. Both have bright futures on and off the field and will def be following their careers in the future. When your speculating just remember that the families of players do read this board and i hope you show respect bc they sacrifice a lot for the team we all love.

Normal freshman students transfer all the time after the first semester or first year. Very common. This guys maybe top notch athletes, but they are still 18 year old kids living on their own for the first time in their life.

irish1958 · Mar 29, 2013

Many, if not most, freshmen have sticker shock in everything, not just football. Dropouts and transfers are extremely common for many reasons. After spending their whole life being the best in their field often with little or no effort due to their innate ability, talent and interest they now find themselves in serious competition with people of similar or superior talent. Throw that into an eighteen year old person with humongous hormonal attachments elsewhere, a bit of immaturity manifested as homesickness and the realization that there are many very talented and exceptional people in the world, and it is a wonder that we can find 85 bodies.
Hence the departure of a few.

GoIrish41 · Mar 29, 2013

irishff1014 said:
Not to be rude but they are only protecting their sons. Who wouldn't?

Not me. I don't give a sh*t about their sons.

IrishSteelhead · Mar 29, 2013

Wasn't it Ferguson's dad who was posting on here after his son's commitment, or was it Chris Brown? I remember the dad being really impressed with all of Whiskey's ROI mumbo jumbo.

Ultimate Penn St. Hater · Mar 29, 2013

IrishSteelhead said:
Wasn't it Ferguson's dad who was posting on here after his son's commitment, or was it Chris Brown? I remember the dad being really impressed with all of Whiskey's ROI mumbo jumbo.

Chris Brown's.

Emcee77 · Mar 29, 2013

irish1958 said:
Many, if not most, freshmen have sticker shock in everything, not just football. Dropouts and transfers are extremely common for many reasons. After spending their whole life being the best in their field often with little or no effort due to their innate ability, talent and interest they now find themselves in serious competition with people of similar or superior talent. Throw that into an eighteen year old person with humongous hormonal attachments elsewhere, a bit of immaturity manifested as homesickness and the realization that there are many very talented and exceptional people in the world, and it is a wonder that we can find 85 bodies.
Hence the departure of a few.

That's a great point. Lots of people seem to transfer after/during their freshman years, no matter where they are in school or what they do.

Whiskeyjack · Mar 29, 2013

IrishSteelhead said:
Wasn't it Ferguson's dad who was posting on here after his son's commitment, or was it Chris Brown? I remember the dad being really impressed with all of Whiskey's ROI mumbo jumbo.

It was Mr. Brown, and I remember it a bit differently. He basically told me he didn't appreciate the overt racial aspects of the data. Not Football ROI's proudest day.

But I like your version better. Let's go with that one.

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