ND MBB 2012-2013 Season

[NDGOLDEN]

In zags bracket is nice

 

[Buster Bluth]

A #7 seed. Whoa.

 

[koonja]

That's the most winnable bracket.

 

[NDGOLDEN]

****kkkkkk

 

[NDPhilly]

7 seed. Bullshit

 

[NDGOLDEN]

Not good Ohio st is on fire

 

[NDGOLDEN]

Wow just said watch out for ND for Ohio st

 

[gkIrish]

Guess I'm going to the game

 

[chicago51]

As usual I am unhappy with NDs tournament seeding. I almost always think they are 1 to 2 seeds to low or high numerically speaking.

 

[SaltyND24]

Gosh damnit...seriously can't ever catch a break with seeding...well, we better just have a sh*t together and shock the world...

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

7 Seed? Dafuq?

But, Iowa St is actually a decent pick.

The bracket is the weakest collectively, and the big 10 with their inconsistency doesn't scare me.

 

[STLDomer]

Weakest region but Iowa State isn't a great draw

 

[ShawneeIrish]

7 seed is too low for sure, I thought if we lost to Marquette we would still probably be a six so this was disappointing. I don't really know anything about Iowa St., have any of you guys watched them play much this year?

 

[NDGOLDEN]

7 seed is too low for sure, I thought if we lost to Marquette we would still probably be a six so this was disappointing. I don't really know anything about Iowa St., have any of you guys watched them play much this year?

Ya their not that bad they score a lot but also give up a lot. They beat ok st and k st but both were at home. Didn't beat anyone good on the road. 8th best offensive efficiency. 126 defense efficiency. They make 3s left and right. They can hit it from anywhere on the floor and their best player will clyburn can drive or pull up and hit it from everywhere on the floor. We're gonna have our hands full definaitly. They have 5 guys that score double digit points a game and one comes off the bench and gets about 25 mins a game.

We have the 13th best offensive efficiency and the 94th best defensive efficiency. Grant and Cooley are gonna have to step up a lot. We're probably gonna slow them down a lot and do the burn offense the whole game but Iowa st is very dangerous so should be a good game but I'm nervous

 

[Buster Bluth]

The starting lineup for the NCAA tournament, and their respective Rivals rankings out of high school, to put things in perspective:

PG: Atkins #17 PG
SG: Grant #29 SG
F: Connaughton #29 SF
F: Knight NR
F: Cooley NR

Compared to the future:

G: Jackson #6 PG #30 OVR
F: Biedscheid #8 SF #28 OVR
F: Beachem #15 SF #85 OVR
F: Auguste #23 PF #97 OVR

 

[NDGOLDEN]

The starting lineup for the NCAA tournament, and their respective Rivals rankings out of high school, to put things in perspective:

PG: Atkins #17 PG
SG: Grant #29 SG
F: Connaughton #29 SF
F: Knight NR
F: Cooley NR

Compared to the future:

G: Jackson #6 PG #30 OVR
F: Biedscheid #8 SF #28 OVR
F: Beachem #15 SF #85 OVR
F: Auguste #23 PF #97 OVR

Wow well at least the future looks very bright

 

[Patulski]

I don't care what Biedscheid's ranking was, if he can't shoot a jump shot at a higher percentage he's not going to be very good. He has very poor form compared to Connaughton, who at least looks like a pure shooter. They are either going to fix Beidscheid's shot, or roll the dice with him. He shot 32% from 2-point range and 31% from 3-point range. Yeah, he had some streaky games, but was lousy overall.

I like Auguste's athleticism. If he gets a softer touch around the hoop he could have a good career.

The starting lineup for the NCAA tournament, and their respective Rivals rankings out of high school, to put things in perspective:

PG: Atkins #17 PG
SG: Grant #29 SG
F: Connaughton #29 SF
F: Knight NR
F: Cooley NR

Compared to the future:

G: Jackson #6 PG #30 OVR
F: Biedscheid #8 SF #28 OVR
F: Beachem #15 SF #85 OVR
F: Auguste #23 PF #97 OVR

 

[ShawneeIrish]

Ya their not that bad they score a lot but also give up a lot. They beat ok st and k st but both were at home. Didn't beat anyone good on the road. 8th best offensive efficiency. 126 defense efficiency. They make 3s left and right. They can hit it from anywhere on the floor and their best player will clyburn can drive or pull up and hit it from everywhere on the floor. We're gonna have our hands full definaitly. They have 5 guys that score double digit points a game and one comes off the bench and gets about 25 mins a game.

We have the 13th best offensive efficiency and the 94th best defensive efficiency. Grant and Cooley are gonna have to step up a lot. We're probably gonna slow them down a lot and do the burn offense the whole game but Iowa st is very dangerous so should be a good game but I'm nervous

Good info. thanks.

 

[clashmore_mike]

hmmm won't let me post in response to the post about Biedscheid for some reason.

 

[clashmore_mike]

I don't care what Biedscheid's ranking was, if he can't shoot a jump shot at a higher percentage he's not going to be very good. He has very poor form compared to Connaughton, who at least looks like a pure shooter. They are either going to fix Beidscheid's shot, or roll the dice with him. He shot 32% from 2-point range and 31% from 3-point range. Yeah, he had some streaky games, but was lousy overall.

I like Auguste's athleticism. If he gets a softer touch around the hoop he could have a good career.

Shot selection will be big for Biedscheid.

 

[NDGOLDEN]

Bilas has 3 Upsets the first round and guess who he has for one of them

 

[clashmore_mike]

ND is a one point underdog, so it really isn't much of an upset.

 

[NDGOLDEN]

Well ya but its still considered a upset for the brackets

 

[RDU Irish]

Heck, 5 vs 12 matchups are almost a coin flip anymore. 7 vs 10 definitely shouldn't have a strong favorite.

If any team traditionally underperforms as much as the Irish in the NCAAs it is Iowa State. If either us or ISU gets hot this weekend OSU might be in for a fight.

 

[NDGOLDEN]

Heck, 5 vs 12 matchups are almost a coin flip anymore. 7 vs 10 definitely shouldn't have a strong favorite.

If any team traditionally underperforms as much as the Irish in the NCAAs it is Iowa State. If either us or ISU gets hot this weekend OSU might be in for a fight.

Agreed whoever hits shots between us is gonna win simple as that

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

I don't care what Biedscheid's ranking was, if he can't shoot a jump shot at a higher percentage he's not going to be very good. He has very poor form compared to Connaughton, who at least looks like a pure shooter. They are either going to fix Beidscheid's shot, or roll the dice with him. He shot 32% from 2-point range and 31% from 3-point range. Yeah, he had some streaky games, but was lousy overall.

I like Auguste's athleticism. If he gets a softer touch around the hoop he could have a good career.

So, basically you're saying...

You like Zach for his potential?
Well, i also like Cameron for his potential.

I was skeptical of him even being physically mature enough to play D1 ball this year.

So far, especially his defense, gas exceeded my expectations.

Give the guy one more year at minimum before you write him off.

 

[Patulski]

What I'm saying is that if he can't be a consistent jump shooter, due to a flaw in his shooting form, he doesn't bring much else to the game. You don't need to be physically mature to be quick. He's not particularly quick or explosive.

Let's hope they fix his jump shot.

So, basically you're saying...

You like Zach for his potential?
Well, i also like Cameron for his potential.

I was skeptical of him even being physically mature enough to play D1 ball this year.

So far, especially his defense, gas exceeded my expectations.

Give the guy one more year at minimum before you write him off.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

What I'm saying is that if he can't be a consistent jump shooter, due to a flaw in his shooting form, he doesn't bring much else to the game. You don't need to be physically mature to be quick. He's not particularly quick or explosive.

Let's hope they fix his jump shot.

He can do more than jump shoot. He can slash. Very comparable to Jerian.

But I feel like brey wanted him to be spot up this year, because Cameron is just straight up not strong enough yet to go inside with the big guys.

Let cam bulk up some and he'll become a more all around kinda guy.

 

[Woneone]

What I'm saying is that if he can't be a consistent jump shooter, due to a flaw in his shooting form, he doesn't bring much else to the game. You don't need to be physically mature to be quick. He's not particularly quick or explosive.

Let's hope they fix his jump shot.

I watched some of HS highlight tapes today, and he actually looked better in those than he does now.

Today, he has a bit of a hitch in his shot, which isn't near as pronounced last year, but I can look past that. The one thing he needs to change is his release point, because he makes himself about 6" shorter half the time when he releases it. But it's correctable.

More than anything, I think it's a guy that's lost some confidence in his stroke and is rushing everything (I think a combination of nerves vs. hitting that wall). Take his first (and I think only 3) in the BE tourny against Louisville. He literally jumped 3 ft forward on his shot. I don't care how good a shooter you are (with a few exceptions). That much movement on your jumper is going to cause all kinds of issues. It's as if he thought, "Oh crap, I'm open, gotta hurry!" and launched (both the ball and himself) at the basket.

Anyway, I'll get to watch up close on Friday, as a buddy of mine called me and asked if I wanted his two seats for the late session in UD on Friday. Going with my father in law, an ND grad who's never been to a basketball game (I don't think). Should be fun.

 

[arrowryan]

I don't care what Biedscheid's ranking was, if he can't shoot a jump shot at a higher percentage he's not going to be very good. He has very poor form compared to Connaughton, who at least looks like a pure shooter. They are either going to fix Beidscheid's shot, or roll the dice with him. He shot 32% from 2-point range and 31% from 3-point range. Yeah, he had some streaky games, but was lousy overall.

I like Auguste's athleticism. If he gets a softer touch around the hoop he could have a good career.

What I'm saying is that if he can't be a consistent jump shooter, due to a flaw in his shooting form, he doesn't bring much else to the game. You don't need to be physically mature to be quick. He's not particularly quick or explosive.

Let's hope they fix his jump shot.

I watched some of HS highlight tapes today, and he actually looked better in those than he does now.

Today, he has a bit of a hitch in his shot, which isn't near as pronounced last year, but I can look past that. The one thing he needs to change is his release point, because he makes himself about 6" shorter half the time when he releases it. But it's correctable.

More than anything, I think it's a guy that's lost some confidence in his stroke and is rushing everything (I think a combination of nerves vs. hitting that wall). Take his first (and I think only 3) in the BE tourny against Louisville. He literally jumped 3 ft forward on his shot. I don't care how good a shooter you are (with a few exceptions). That much movement on your jumper is going to cause all kinds of issues. It's as if he thought, "Oh crap, I'm open, gotta hurry!" and launched (both the ball and himself) at the basket.

Anyway, I'll get to watch up close on Friday, as a buddy of mine called me and asked if I wanted his two seats for the late session in UD on Friday. Going with my father in law, an ND grad who's never been to a basketball game (I don't think). Should be fun.