'14 NJ DE Andrew Trumbetti (Notre Dame Early Enrollee)

[koonja]

I see what you mean. But it's hard to determine who will pan out into a good DE in Diaco's system because it requires discipline to 2 gap. I don't care where they put him, I like him.

I think he could be a very intriguing LB prospect. Ignore his measurables and just look at how he moves... Not sure about inside or out, I'd guess out be we have more need at inside.

 

[Chris P. Bacon]

I don't know, is it crazy to see this kid at TE not sure about our depth at TE in 2014? Moves very well with the ball, has him listed at TE/DE/ATH on video. He could be a mean blocker out there, we seem to be developing our TE's into good blockers on top of their ability in open space. (I.E Eifert).

 

[arrowryan]

I don't know, is it crazy to see this kid at TE not sure about our depth chart at TE in 2014? Moves very well with the ball, has him listed at TE/DE/ATH on video. He could be a mean blocker out there, we seem to be developing our TE's into good blockers on top of their ability in open space. (I.E Eifert).

I want him on the d line

 

[clashmore_mike]

I don't know, is it crazy to see this kid at TE not sure about our depth at TE in 2014? Moves very well with the ball, has him listed at TE/DE/ATH on video. He could be a mean blocker out there, we seem to be developing our TE's into good blockers on top of their ability in open space. (I.E Eifert).

There will more than likely be an elite true TE in this class so while Trumbetti's versatility will be good, he'd almost assuredly come in on defense.

 

[drake29]

I was actually wondering if he could play ILB. He's got the height that the staff covets and surprising athleticism. Given the rule of thumb on height/weight measurements he's gotta be what? 6-3 240lbs? He's got a great motor, solid speed, but you don't need a burner at ILB. You need a monster that can take on Chance Warmack when he's barreling down on you. At first I saw a Cat prospect that could eventually grow into a DE. Now I see a kid that could potentially play inside with Martini. Sure he'll be a liability in passing downs, but so is Calebrese. So was Te'o before this season. If Trumbetti maintains his current weight and works strictly on improving his speed agility, I think he could definitely slide inside. Either way, the kid is very versatile.

 

[ThePiombino]

I was actually wondering if he could play ILB. He's got the height that the staff covets and surprising athleticism. Given the rule of thumb on height/weight measurements he's gotta be what? 6-3 240lbs? He's got a great motor, solid speed, but you don't need a burner at ILB. You need a monster that can take on Chance Warmack when he's barreling down on you. At first I saw a Cat prospect that could eventually grow into a DE. Now I see a kid that could potentially play inside with Martini. Sure he'll be a liability in passing downs, but so is Calebrese. So was Te'o before this season. If Trumbetti maintains his current weight and works strictly on improving his speed agility, I think he could definitely slide inside. Either way, the kid is very versatile.

I think the goal is to get away from that kind of limitation in the middle.

 

[NDPhilly]

Kid is already 6'5" 250.highly doubt he could play MLB.

 

[Irish To The Core]

I was actually wondering if he could play ILB. He's got the height that the staff covets and surprising athleticism. Given the rule of thumb on height/weight measurements he's gotta be what? 6-3 240lbs? He's got a great motor, solid speed, but you don't need a burner at ILB. You need a monster that can take on Chance Warmack when he's barreling down on you. At first I saw a Cat prospect that could eventually grow into a DE. Now I see a kid that could potentially play inside with Martini. Sure he'll be a liability in passing downs, but so is Calebrese. So was Te'o before this season. If Trumbetti maintains his current weight and works strictly on improving his speed agility, I think he could definitely slide inside. Either way, the kid is very versatile. .

Disagree for many reasons.

#1: Te'o compared to Calabrese re. play vs. the pass? Come on.

#2: Calabrese was not recruited by this staff. One dimensional run stuffers are no longer the kind of ILBs Notre Dame needs or wants.

#3: He is already 250 lb. project that and you have a 275 lb. linebacker.

The guy is a DE. Since when is agility and speed a liability for a DE?

 

[irishog77]

Where's our resident DE/OLB poster explaining this to us all again?


We need answers!!!!

 

[Bogtrotter07]

He will obviously be recruited as a big skill kind of guy. Therefore he will be rated on skill not position DE vs. OLB vs. ILB. He may be told separately that he is being brought in for a position or with a need in mind.

Did you all and I watch the same tapes? Because his soph and jr tapes showed plenty of physicality on O and D. I don't know what a body wants out of a 15 or 16 year old kid!

ILB is about pad level and engaging an offensive guard on every/any play (potentially). Some coverage, but you have to destroy some big ugly's block and make plays.

Outside linebacker requires setting the edge coverage of TE's predominately on one side, or distinguishing and covering, sometimes the inside wide receiver on the other. In addition, an OLB has to have the same skill set as old time 5-2 defensive ends if not in coverage on passing downs.

 

[STLDomer]

Looks like he visited UF recently, only Scout is reporting it though and for one article the Scout reporter for ND and UF had completely different previews:

“@AnnaHScout: Could Scout 300 DE Andrew Trumbetti commit to ND on junior day? Scout.com: Trumbetti's Focus Changing?

While the UF reporter who wrote the article insinuates that his priorities might have changed and he might not be a ND lean anymore

Still don't get why no one else is reporting the visit

 

[NDPhilly]

Per Rivals The following have offered since the last time his profile was updated:

Clemson
Florida
Florida State
Miami (FL)
Penn State
Michigan State
Purdue
UCONN

 

[levicarvalho]

I think he would play the Shembo/Ishaq role

 

[CanadalovesND]

I think he would play the Shembo/Ishaq role

He's already 250, I see him around the 275-290 range with his hand in the dirt. No coverage duties unless he has the athletic ability, but preferrably, use him at DE in both 3-4, 4-3 packages

 

[yankeeND]

I hope we can lock Andrew up this Spring. He needs to be wearing a Gold helmet next year.

 

[drake29]

Disagree for many reasons.

#1: Te'o compared to Calabrese re. play vs. the pass? Come on.

#2: Calabrese was not recruited by this staff. One dimensional run stuffers are no longer the kind of ILBs Notre Dame needs or wants.

#3: He is already 250 lb. project that and you have a 275 lb. linebacker.

The guy is a DE. Since when is agility and speed a liability for a DE?

#1 Before the 2012 season Teo'o wasn't good against the pass. Not as bad as Carlo, but he played too heavy for a guy that's only 6-1.

#2 See Michael Deeb, who does his best work playing the run. Nd may want versatile ILBs, but at the end of the day you have to stop the run.

#3 Like I've stated previously, you can only take listed hright and weight on recruiting sites with a grain of salt. Usually shrink an inch or two in height and about 10lbs in weight.

 

[GBdomer]

Pretty sure he is being recruited at DE.

 

[drake29]

I'm pretty sure you're correct GB. But the kid is athletic enough to consider him a CAT prospect as well. The point I was trying to make with the ILB comment was that he seems to have pretty good athleticism for his size. He's also got ideal size for a LBer spot in the 3-4 defense, whether that's inside or at CAT. I just don't think it's a good idea to put lighter, quicker, pass defending MLBers on the field when you run a 3-4 defense. You're asking these kids to take on 300+ lb guards every play and Diaco and co. tend to play vs. the run to keep offenses from 3rd and short situations. Just a thought, even though it may be wrong.

 

[Luckylucci]

One thin that Kelly said was going to be a focus this recruiting cycle is big skill and he fits that perfectly. Don't want him there but he doesn't look to bad at TE

 

[EuropeanDomer]

Calabrese looked much faster than Trumbetti in his HS film. In fact, now is what he is but he looked faster in his HS days.

 

[rtrn2glory]

Calabrese looked much faster than Trumbetti in his HS film. In fact, now is what he is but he looked faster in his HS days.

you can probably say that for about 99% of college football players

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I have no idea what he said. I cannot even guess. But if you are saying kids were faster in high school, than in college, playing D1 ball; then something is wrong.

99.9% of the time, kids "kids look faster in high school tapes because of illusion. They aren't as big, but mostly, the competition isn't as fast.

Of the kids that actually slow down, if it isn't a (serious) medical problem, it is a serious commitment or training program problem.

Don't go by stats; from height to weigh, to hand-held forty times, I have never seen a case where the following dictum isn't true: "Everybody lies!"

 

[Luckylucci]

Calabrese looked much faster than Trumbetti in his HS film. In fact, now is what he is but he looked faster in his HS days.

Also keep in mind that Carlo was playing HS ball around 6'2 225 and Andrew is around 6'5 and 250. Thats a big difference for a 17 year old kid.

 

[irishog77]

So the take away from this discussion is: Vanderdoes is playing ILB?

:awesomewo

 

[clashmore_mike]

TV has him on commit watch for the upcoming visit. Florida has made up ground.

 

[rtrn2glory]

is his upcoming visit to florida or ND???

 

[STLDomer]

He just visited UF, visiting ND for Junior Day

 

[irishog77]

TV has him on commit watch for the upcoming visit. Florida has made up ground.

He just visited UF, visiting ND for Junior Day

So he just visited Jorts U, they made up ground, but TV thinks he may commit to ND anyway on his visit there?

 

[Ricochet]

Pretty sure he is being recruited at DE.

There is no question about it he's being recruited as a 3-4 DE.

He was 250 this past season and come next season I'm betting he's about 265 and by the time he gets to college he will most likely be 280.

After getting in the college S&C program for a year I would expect him to be a 290 of pure muscle.

 

[Irish#1]

Per Rivals The following have offered since the last time his profile was updated:

Clemson
Florida
Florida State
Miami (FL)
Penn State
Michigan State
Purdue
UCONN

That a decent list. Seems like he's starting to get noticed more.