'13 OH QB Malik Zaire (Notre Dame Early Enrollee)

[Irish Houstonian]

a high level of confidence in interceptions and poor passing decisions. Yeah I could get down on that action.

TR had all those problems and then some at the beginning of 12, and Kelly didn't put in Gunner, right?

Heck, it didn't even take an injury for TR to get in the game in '12. Just poor play by Golson. In fact, the same thing could happen this year.

The point isn't how good TR is, it's how much Kelly really likes TR. I don't necessarily like it any more than you do, but it is what it is.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

"I feel that I am the only one in the stands that understands, clearly, that I have no real idea what's going on out there.”

Dave Casper

 

[Whiskeyjack]

The point isn't how good TR is, it's how much Kelly really likes TR. I don't necessarily like it any more than you do, but it is what it is.

I doubt Kelly would ever be so arbitrary. Rees has a better grasp of our offense than any of the other QBs, so he can trust Rees to make the right reads and execute the play as called. It's a control issue.

 

[Irish Houstonian]

I doubt Kelly would ever be so arbitrary. Rees has a better grasp of our offense than any of the other QBs, so he can trust Rees to make the right reads and execute the play as called. It's a control issue.

? I didn't say it was an arbitrary decision. I'm sure Kelly considers a lot of factors before putting his QB's in games...and at this point it's pretty clear that if the situationa arises Rees will go in before Zaire.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I doubt Kelly would ever be so arbitrary. Rees has a better grasp of our offense than any of the other QBs, so he can trust Rees to make the right reads and execute the play as called. It's a control issue.

And as a corollary, bringing him in off the bench, does not allow an opponent to plan for him, so his value can be fully appreciated. In other words, no team has time to play to his weaknesses. So he can come in off the bench and get his job done with a high degree of certitude.

 

[Irish8248]

False. This is a kid who picked up an entire playbook of a completely different offense in one night to become the #7 ranked QB at the Elite 11. He also has run about every type of offense at the high school level that you can run. He also has to do spring battle with a TO machine whose only saving grace is he can get you in the right play at the line of scrimmage but god help you after that, and a guy with a motor but who does not make good choices when he has played. I like his odds.

BTW I hope to god next year all backups will be doing mop up duty and MZ does redshirt.

right because that is a telling sign to how you will land in the college depth chart

as for offenses in HS, he was a school that was heavy run up until this year, so this is was his first year under a smoewhat balanced approach.... Plus were comparing HS to college.... GK ran a very similar offensive style in HS to what ND runs -- yet he had a RS slapped on him

no offense -- but youre really reaching to make points

 

[ThePiombino]

It's my opinion that it would be in ND's best interest to keep as much separation between MZ and EG as possible. TR is more than capable of playing the backup role. Why burn a year of eligibility for MZ on some mop-up duty or possible time.due to injury to EG. If ND can't utilize TR or even AH in that role this year, then why are they even on the roster. It would be a huge mistake to burn MZ's red-shirt this year.

 

[irishpat183]

False. This is a kid who picked up an entire playbook of a completely different offense in one night to become the #7 ranked QB at the Elite 11. He also has run about every type of offense at the high school level that you can run. He also has to do spring battle with a TO machine whose only saving grace is he can get you in the right play at the line of scrimmage but god help you after that, and a guy with a motor but who does not make good choices when he has played. I like his odds.

BTW I hope to god next year all backups will be doing mop up duty and MZ does redshirt.

....at the highschool level.


Again....at the high schoool level. And it's TOTALLY different and much more complicated (I've played at both levels)

 

[Sherm Sticky]

I don't see how anyone in their right mind does not think Tommy Rees will be the backup.

 

[Ironman8]

I don't see how anyone in their right mind does not think Tommy Rees will be the backup.

I'm with you. I am incredibly high on Malik because of his physical and mental tools accompanied with his makeup, but '13 won't be the year we see it. Golson and then Malik for the next 7 years would be perfection.

 

[Cackalacky]

right because that is a telling sign to how you will land in the college depth chart

as for offenses in HS, he was a school that was heavy run up until this year, so this is was his first year under a smoewhat balanced approach.... Plus were comparing HS to college.... GK ran a very similar offensive style in HS to what ND runs -- yet he had a RS slapped on him

no offense -- but youre really reaching to make points

None taken. On second thought you all are probably right. I agree I am stretching some.

 

[ThePiombino]

I'm with you. I am incredibly high on Malik because of his physical and mental tools accompanied with his makeup, but '13 won't be the year we see it. Golson and then Malik for the next 7 years would be perfection.

7 years? What kinda funny math you using? lol

 

[Voltaire]

7 years? What kinda funny math you using? lol

Can you imagine if Kiel stayed? We could have had EG, MZ, and Gunner for the next 11 years!!

 

[Bogtrotter07]

7 years? What kinda funny math you using? lol

Moderator math.

 

[clashmore_mike]

7 years? What kinda funny math you using? lol

Reading is fundamental

 

[NewBrunswickIrish]

Reading is fundamental

It's only 5 years I think not 7. Golson for 3 more and Malik (5-3=2) for 2

 

[BeauBenken]

7 years? What kinda funny math you using? lol

He clearly put the 3-year 'Luck of the Irish' Redshirt on Malik in his calculations...

 

[stlnd01]

I don't see how anyone in their right mind does not think Tommy Rees will be the backup.

He will be, no doubt, just like last year. But I do think a long-term injury to Golson might at least open up the question.

 

[peoriairish]

Let me just clarify a few things so y'all don't think I'm a loon.

First, One must take all this analysis we are projecting worth a grain of salt because each of us are running through a different scenario in our heads. One could be a minor sprain where EG could come back the next week. If that's the case, Tommy comes in. If it's a season ending injury, early in the season, IMO, Malik comes in. Like I said a page ago, I think by the start of this fall season, I think Malik will have a better grasp of the offense than Golson did at the start of 2012. With this in mind, why would you play Tommy over the far more athletic and talented QB in Malik? Just a thought.

Second, for those saying BK doesn't blow red shirts, it's been proven time and time again he does. Coach only worries about putting the best team on the field at that particular moment. If this means that he needs his 2nd best QB, which in my book, at this point, is Malik, to come in and finish off a game, then that is what he will do.

Okay, you may still think I'm a loon. But this is my opinion on things that I have heard about Malik and seen from him in his recruitment, videos, and camps. Sorry I'm not sorry.

 

[Buster Bluth]

I'm not buying Malik-the-2013-backup at all. People are understating just how talented Hendrix is.

 

[Emcee77]

I'm not buying Malik-the-2013-backup at all. People are understating just how talented Hendrix is.

This.

If EG goes down pre-season, then I agree it's probably open competition ... but I think Hendrix is more likely to win the job than Malik.

 

[ryno 24]

I'm not buying Malik-the-2013-backup at all. People are understating just how talented Hendrix is.

He is very talented but he has Dayne Christ syndrome. He doesnt get qb

 

[peoriairish]

This.

If EG goes down pre-season, then I agree it's probably open competition ... but I think Hendrix is more likely to win the job than Malik.

In all honesty, I hope y'all are right. I don't WANT to see Malik drop his red shirt this year. I want there to be another, better option on the roster that can perform capably if needed. I just don't see it. Here's to hoping I'm wrong.

 

[Buster Bluth]

He is very talented but he has Dayne Christ syndrome. He doesnt get qb

Are you a wizard?

Dayne Crist has thrown 554 passes throughout his career.

Hendrix...44, 24 of which were in one game, on the road, against the #5 team in the country, in a game he wasn't supposed to play in but had to do to injury.

 

[Cackalacky]

Are you a wizard?

Dayne Crist has thrown 554 passes throughout his career.

Hendrix...44, 24 of which were in one game, on the road, against the #5 team in the country, in a game he wasn't supposed to play in but had to do to injury.

 

[Cackalacky]

I'll just want one question answered....



When is

 

[ryno 24]

March 20th

 

[ryno 24]

Are you a wizard?

Dayne Crist has thrown 554 passes throughout his career.

Hendrix...44, 24 of which were in one game, on the road, against the #5 team in the country, in a game he wasn't supposed to play in but had to do to injury.

I just mean it seems as if he doesnt get the mental aspect of the game. If he did he probably would have beaten Golson. Plus being pre-med means he has to focus on other things.

 

[arahop]

Are you a wizard?

Dayne Crist has thrown 554 passes throughout his career.

Hendrix...44, 24 of which were in one game, on the road, against the #5 team in the country, in a game he wasn't supposed to play in but had to do to injury.

And yet he has had 3 years years to leap Tommy and hasn't. He received 0 zero snaps last year. I'm all for him becoming a good backup to EG. I just don't think it will happen

 

[IrishRugger2013]

And yet he has had 3 years years to leap Tommy and hasn't. He received 0 zero snaps last year. I'm all for him becoming a good backup to EG. I just don't think it will happen

Just nit picking but Hendrix definitely played against navy and byu, but that was because tommy was suspended and eg was injured, respectively.