'14 UT TE Dalton Schultz (Stanford Verbal)

[STLDomer]

Tight End
South Jordan, Utah
Bingham High School

Measurables
Height: 6'5
Weight: 215

Stats
2012:
2013:

Rankings
Rivals: #116 Overall
247: 87 Rating, #5 UT, #14 TE
ESPN: TBD
Scout: #2 TE
247 Composite 93 Rating, #3 UT, #6 TE, #178 Overall

Offers
Stanford
California
Colorado
Nebraska
Notre Dame
Oklahoma
Utah
Arizona
Arizona State
Brigham Young
Hawaii
Tennessee
Washington
UCLA

Interest
Florida
Florida State

ND Recruiter: Bob Elliott
Decision Schedule:

Highlights

Dalton Schultz - Highlight Videos, Schedule & Roster - Hudl
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[STLDomer]

He was offered recently (Rivals article if anyone wants to share)

Bob Elliott is his recruiter

Stanford leads

From The 2014 Master List

Barton Simmons at the NLA Las Vegas 7-7

Dalton Schultz is no joke. Big athletic TE that has shown Great hands. Snoop All Stars striding to contain him.

 

[drake29]

Do want. We nees to find and post his complete HL. Beast

 

[STLDomer]

Do want. We nees to find and post his complete HL. Beast

Already found and posted my man, watch his Hudl tape

 

[drake29]

Sorry STL. Didn't see it there! This kid would fit perfectly in NDs offense.

 

[STLDomer]

Per 247 Top 4 of ND, Stanford, Washington, and Utah.

Likes the coaches at UW and UT
Likes the academics at ND and Stanford (plus called ND TE U)

 

[drake29]

Similar skillset to Mark Andrews but with more consistant hands and a little better 'make-you-miss' ability.

 

[ResLife Hero]

#9 huh? Wonder if he emulates a certain Kyle Rudolph.

 

[STLDomer]

Number 1 Overall Pass Catcher at the NLA Las Vegas 7-7

1. Dalton Schultz, TE, South Jordan (Utah) Bingham – Though he may have been the biggest prospect in attendance, Schultz was more than just a body mismatch. When he caught the ball all weekend, it was startling how quick and athletic he was after the catch. Schultz looked like one of the nation’s elite tight ends all weekend.

Perspective: Nathan Starks, Miciah Quick and Tyler Luatua were all in this catagory

He's about to get a giant bump on 247

 

[IrishLax]

How good of a shot do we think we really have here? This kid seems like a total baller and potentially dominant player.

 

[BeauBenken]

How good of a shot do we think we really have here? This kid seems like a total baller and potentially dominant player.

Well we just offered and we're already in his top 4, so I'd say pretty good.

 

[rtrn2glory]

a lot of very good TE's seem to be interested in ND early. finally seeing the light that we are TE U

 

[dublinirish]

Presuming this kid is LDS, get Chris Badger involved in his recruitment and of course Manti. Anyone know if he plans to take a Mission?

 

[rtrn2glory]

i don't believe manti or badger can get involved without him initiating contact...think that would be a violation.

but if that is the case maybe pair with badger while on a visit.

 

[koonja]

i don't believe manti or badger can get involved without him initiating contact...think that would be a violation.

but if that is the case maybe pair with badger while on a visit.

Manti technically isn't part of ND anymore, so I think he could.

 

[rtrn2glory]

i don't think that's allowed though under NCAA rules....

 

[BeauBenken]

Manti technically isn't part of ND anymore, so I think he could.

That's exactly why he couldn't.

 

[koonja]

That's exactly why he couldn't.

Why couldn't Manti contact him? Manti has no current affiliation with ND, nor does this kid. Seems like fair game to me.

 

[BeauBenken]

Why couldn't Manti contact him? Manti has no current affiliation with ND, nor does this kid. Seems like fair game to me.

Manti does have affiliation with the University. He's an alumni and former player which automatically makes him a Representative of Athletics Interests. And this is a recruit.

Booster + Recruit = No No

 

[koonja]

Manti does have affiliation with the University. He's an alumni and former player which automatically makes him a booster. And this is a recruit.

Booster + Recruit = No No

'Boosters' can contact recruits, though. Of course they cannot give them money, but they can tweet them, talk to them, meet them, etc.

 

[BeauBenken]

'Boosters' can contact recruits, though. Of course they cannot give them money, but they can tweet them, talk to them, meet them, etc.

Ripping this from the Cal Compliance page:

As a Representative of Athletics Interests, you are permitted to:
1. Notify coaches about prospects in your area that may be strong additions to the Cal team;
2. Attend high school or two-year college athletic contests or events where prospects may compete, but you may not contact the prospect or their relatives or guardians;
3. Continue existing friendships with families of prospects, but you may not attempt to recruit the prospect.
4. Engage in permissible pre-enrollment activities with a prospect, such as summer employment, provided the prospect has already signed a National Letter of Intent and the institution is aware and informed these contacts are made.
5. Have a phone conversation with a prospect only if the prospect initiates the call. Such a call may not be pre-arranged by any institutional staff member or another representative of athletics interests. All questions regarding the athletic department must be referred to the proper Athletic Department staff member.

More:

Rules to Remember
1. Only coaches and university staff members can be involved in the recruiting process. All boosters, alumni, friends and other Representatives of Athletics Interests, who are not employed by the University, are prohibited from making contact (in person, by phone, by fax, or by letter) with a prospective student-athlete, or his or her family, for the purpose of encouraging participation in the Cal athletics program. An alum may be called by a prospect to discuss the University generally, but not to talk about University of California Athletics.
2. An impermissible contact, even if unintentional, could subject the University of California to penalties imposed by the NCAA. Prospects could lose eligibility for competition at Cal because of a recruiting violation.

As a representative of California's athletics interests, you may not provide a prospect with improper recruiting inducements, including but not limited to:
1. Contact a prospect's coach, principal or counselor in an effort to evaluate a prospect;
2. Visit a prospect's educational institution to pick up film or transcripts pertaining to the evaluation of a prospect's academic eligibility or athletic ability;
3. Contact a prospect, his/her relatives or legal guardians on or off the Cal campus or by telephone;
4. Write a prospect, his/her relatives or legal guardians; or make special arrangements for entertaining a prospect on an official visit (e.g., by providing donations, good, services, or discounts).

 

[koonja]

Ripping this from the Cal Compliance page:

Thanks for doing the homework. I couldn't find anything.

Two questions, what makes one an 'Representative of Athletic Interest'? Is that literally anyone who's an alumn of said-university? So whiskeyjack is an alumn of ND, therefore can never tweet at a recruit? Not trying to get him in trouble, but I know he's tweeted recruits the ROI for different schools. Are you saying he's in violation?

Is this NCAA policy or Cal policy? Big difference.

Edit: Whiskey, this isn't some backlash towards you for exposing my full name on IE, lol. After BeauBenken replied, I was going to delete this to avoid needless speculation, but it looks like you wouldn't be in violation anyways, so I'll leave it up. Unless, of course, you had a 'Rudy' moment with some sport during your time at ND that you're not sharing! Lol.

 

[BeauBenken]

Thanks for doing the homework. I couldn't find anything.

Two questions, what makes one an 'Representative of Athletic Interest'? Is that literally anyone who's an alumn of said-university? So whiskeyjack is an alumn of ND, therefore can never tweet at a recruit? Not trying to get him in trouble, but I know he's tweeted recruits the ROI for different schools. Are you saying he's in violation?

Is this NCAA policy or Cal policy? Big difference.

Again, from Cal's page:

Under NCAA rules a "representative of the institution's athletics interests (athletics representative/booster) is any individual who:
1. Made any type of contribution to the University or Athletic Department;
2. Joined a Cal booster club or any sport specific support group;
3. Provided benefits (e.g., summer jobs) to prospective or enrolled student-athletes or their families;
4. Assisted, in any manner, in the recruitment of prospective student-athletes;
5. Participated as a varsity athlete at the University of California;
6. Is the parent or legal guardian of an enrolled student-athlete;
7. Promoted the athletics program in any way.
Once an individual is identified as a "Representative of the Institution's Athletics Interest," the person retains that identity forever.

 

[BeauBenken]

So whiskeyjack is an alumn of ND, therefore can never tweet at a recruit? Not trying to get him in trouble, but I know he's tweeted recruits the ROI for different schools. Are you saying he's in violation?

Is this NCAA policy or Cal policy? Big difference.

Thing is, it's all gray area in that the NCAA doesn't try to control minor things like what Whiskey does. Twitter and other social media sites have introduced a mass amount of communication between people who are technically boosters and "prospective student athletes".

And where the NCAA won't get mad for small things, they COULD. There's a fine line of what they will allow to pass and what they won't.

These rules I imagine are prompted by EVERY school in a way to ensure that no improper contact between a booster and a prospect will go down...including Notre Dame.

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It's as simple as this: if the school doesn't pay you to contact recruits, don't.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Two questions, what makes one an 'Representative of Athletic Interest'? Is that literally anyone who's an alumn of said-university? So whiskeyjack is an alumn of ND, therefore can never tweet at a recruit? Not trying to get him in trouble, but I know he's tweeted recruits the ROI for different schools. Are you saying he's in violation?

Aside from (7) on the list above (what's the definition of "promote"?), I don't fall into any of those categories. Though I need to start contributing annually so my kids can get accepted.

I think the only uncommitted recruit I ever tweeted at was Keith Marshall (and it was in response to a specific request for degree value info). I've tweeted the ROI chart at a couple of our verbals to give them some ammo for pushing back against haters.

But it's generally a bad idea. I try to avoid doing so.

It's as simple as this: if the school doesn't pay you to contact recruits, don't.

This is a good general rule, simply because (NCAA aside) most fan tweets do more harm than good. Some people manage to tweet responsibly at recruits (TP, Lax, etc), and I'm not about to label them rogue boosters or call them out for public shaming. As in so many areas, the NCAA rules simply haven't been updated for things like Twitter yet.

When in doubt, don't.

 

[koonja]

Aside from (7) on the list above (what's the definition of "promote"?), I don't fall into any of those categories. Though I need to start contributing annually so my kids can get accepted.

I think the only uncommitted recruited I ever tweeted at was Keith Marshall (and it was in response to a specific request for degree value info). I've tweeted the ROI chart at a couple of our verbals to give them some ammo for pushing back against haters.

But it's generally a bad idea. I try to avoid doing so.



This is a good general rule, simply because (NCAA aside) most fan tweets do more harm than good. Some people manage to tweet responsibly at recruits (TP, Lax, etc), and I'm not about to label them rogue boosters or call them out for public shaming. As in so many areas, the NCAA rules simply haven't been updated for things like Twitter yet.

When in doubt, don't.

Generally, but exposing factual ROI info to impressionable kids who by all accounts get lied to a lot during the recruiting process? I say fire away! It's not like you're having an ongoing dialogue with said-recruit, trying to persuade them. Giving them that information rather than advice is good for all involved.

 

[BeauBenken]

Aside from (7) on the list above (what's the definition of "promote"?), I don't fall into any of those categories. Though I need to start contributing annually so my kids can get accepted.

I think the only uncommitted recruited I ever tweeted at was Keith Marshall (and it was in response to a specific request for degree value info). I've tweeted the ROI chart at a couple of our verbals to give them some ammo for pushing back against haters.

But it's generally a bad idea. I try to avoid doing so.



This is a good general rule, simply because (NCAA aside) most fan tweets do more harm than good. Some people manage to tweet responsibly at recruits (TP, Lax, etc), and I'm not about to label them rogue boosters or call them out for public shaming. As in so many areas, the NCAA rules simply haven't been updated for things like Twitter yet.

When in doubt, don't.

This.

Rules #1 is a very wide rule though. Contributions can come in many forms. Like buying anything from the school counts, I believe.

 

[peoriairish]

TP is as rogue as they come.

Actor Danny Hayden>TP

 

[Irishnuke]

Maybe it's just me, but I wouldn't want Manti recruiting for us right now.

 

[md_bennett]

Maybe it's just me, but I wouldn't want Manti recruiting for us right now.

+1

Don't get me wrong because I Love Manti (insert joke here) but I think there is just too much negativity surrounding his name right now. He may have some unique insight into the school and coaching that others would not, but as a recruiting help I think he would be toxic right now. Plus if I was going to throw a former player at this kid it would be Eifert.