'13 IN ATH Jaylon Smith (Notre Dame Man & Graduate)

[palinurus]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>ND is more than just football! Why wouldn't you want to be a Domer~~~</p>— Jaylon Smith (@JaeeSmiff9ENT) <a href="https://twitter.com/JaeeSmiff9ENT/status/298181955692929024">February 3, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Gets it.

I love this kid so much. He already loves ND the way a junior or senior does. He was born for this place.

 

[Bobias]

Not to mention the fact that he already has proven leadership abilities. He held his entire team together after their coach was fired mid season, and then led them to their fourth title in a row. That is FOUR straight years of championships! That is experience that is invaluable to future success.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I wasn't aware you knew the future.. can I get tomorrow's lottery numbers by chance?

Mere deductive reasoning; if anybody could have done it, Manti would have against the Smiths. Crable and Golic (Bob) didn't do it either.

Hey, something I always wanted to know, how come the time stamps on the tweets so preceed the time stamp on their earliest posts?

 

[Grahambo]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>ND is more than just football! Why wouldn't you want to be a Domer~~~</p>— Jaylon Smith (@JaeeSmiff9ENT) <a href="https://twitter.com/JaeeSmiff9ENT/status/298181955692929024">February 3, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Gets it.

Hope EV follows Jaylon.

 

[sharksamardzija8345]

Mere deductive reasoning; if anybody could have done it, Manti would have against the Smiths. Crable and Golic (Bob) didn't do it either.

Hey, something I always wanted to know, how come the time stamps on the tweets so preceed the time stamp on their earliest posts?

People wouldn't have thought some freshman could come in and beat out a guy like Barkley for the Heisman.. All I'm saying is I think it's a little irresponsible to say that he can't unseat Spond.. Maybe you're doing it in hopes Jaylon reads this and it motivates him to do it lol, qbut saying a kid can't do something is a little unnerving to me.. Just my 2 cents tho

 

[woolybug25]

People wouldn't have thought some freshman could come in and beat out a guy like Barkley for the Heisman.. All I'm saying is I think it's a little irresponsible to say that he can't unseat Spond.. Maybe you're doing it in hopes Jaylon reads this and it motivates him to do it lol, qbut saying a kid can't do something is a little unnerving to me.. Just my 2 cents tho

Manziel was a redshirt freshman, just for the record.

 

[ThePiombino]

Hope EV follows Jaylon.

I was just wondering if JS has been in touch with him since his Bama visit. Would be nice to get some pro-ND talk in there before the big day.

 

[yankeeND]

Just a question, I already have a number 9 jersey. Can I rep it as a JS one? It's been a Zibby, Rudolph, and a Nix. I certainly think Jaylon fits in that mold.

 

[dublinirish]

Just a question, I already have a number 9 jersey. Can I rep it as a JS one? It's been a Zibby, Rudolph, and a Nix. I certainly think Jaylon fits in that mold.

aha i am in the same boat man, dont forget Mike H, kids gonna be a playmaker

 

[gkIrish]

Just a question, I already have a number 9 jersey. Can I rep it as a JS one? It's been a Zibby, Rudolph, and a Nix. I certainly think Jaylon fits in that mold.

Yes

 

[yankeeND]

Good answers cuz these damn jerseys get expensive. Yes and Heuerman!

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

Just a question, I already have a number 9 jersey. Can I rep it as a JS one? It's been a Zibby, Rudolph, and a Nix. I certainly think Jaylon fits in that mold.

YES! ZIBBY THE MAN! Great series of players wearing that number.

 

[fitz_bu47]

I also grabbed a #9 b/c of Zibby, but it's been worn by studs ever since. Got a #5 this year for Manti, now it rolls into our starting QB, love the College jerseys w/out names.

 

[sharksamardzija8345]

Manziel was a redshirt freshman, just for the record.

Fair enough.. Thanks.. Takes away from my point a little I suppose, but my opinion remains the same.. Is it unlikely Jaylon takes his spot? Sure. Is it impossible? Hell no

 

[Bogtrotter07]

People wouldn't have thought some freshman could come in and beat out a guy like Barkley for the Heisman.. All I'm saying is I think it's a little irresponsible to say that he can't unseat Spond.. Maybe you're doing it in hopes Jaylon reads this and it motivates him to do it lol, qbut saying a kid can't do something is a little unnerving to me.. Just my 2 cents tho

Wait a minute! You are comparing the Heisman Race to winning a starting spot on a college, D1 football team, specifically Notre Dame? So you know I am going to have to whip out the C-word. That is right, conflation! One has nothing to do with the other! At all.

Honestly, the national insanity over picking the most popular quarterback or occasionally running back, has nothing to do with real world, down in the dirt, hit 'em till you hurt, college football. Are we in agreement on that?

Here is the real moneymaker: YOU DO NOT REALLY WANT JAYLON BEATING DANNY OUT!

Why?

1) Likelihood of serious injuries (until the body is used to the punishment at that level), or getting beat badly is higher (with no game experience);

2) Seriously wreaks havoc with the depth charts (not to mention morale);

3) Means that your program is taking a big step backward, when a completely inexperienced freshman can replace a three year seasoned vet, even if the freshman has boat loads of superior talent. End of freshman year, may mean all good for the program, but never right out of the chute. You remember most though Charlie was building a solid linebacker corps, with the Smiths and Co. It took what Manti did late in the first game against Nevada, specifically when he ran Colin Kaepernick down from behind, after whiffing on him, to get an idea about how weak the linebacker corps actually was.

 

[sharksamardzija8345]

Wait a minute! You are comparing the Heisman Race to winning a starting spot on a college, D1 football team, specifically Notre Dame? So you know I am going to have to whip out the C-word. That is right, conflation! One has nothing to do with the other! At all.

Honestly, the national insanity over picking the most popular quarterback or occasionally running back, has nothing to do with real world, down in the dirt, hit 'em till you hurt, college football. Are we in agreement on that?

Here is the real moneymaker: YOU DO NOT REALLY WANT JAYLON BEATING DANNY OUT!

Why?

1) Likelihood of serious injuries (until the body is used to the punishment at that level), or getting beat badly is higher (with no game experience);

2) Seriously wreaks havoc with the depth charts (not to mention morale);

3) Means that your program is taking a big step backward, when a completely inexperienced freshman can replace a three year seasoned vet, even if the freshman has boat loads of superior talent. End of freshman year, may mean all good for the program, but never right out of the chute. You remember most though Charlie was building a solid linebacker corps, with the Smiths and Co. It took what Manti did late in the first game against Nevada, specifically when he ran Colin Kaepernick down from behind, after whiffing on him, to get an idea about how weak the linebacker corps actually was.

Those are all fair points, but I still disagree.. The best player should play.. Experience, talent, etc all factor in, but who's the better player? That player should get the nod 10/10 times.. And until that is determined with practices, scrimmages, drills, etc, I think it's a bit irresponsible to come to a conclusion yet.. Surely you have to be open minded to the idea that you're making these assumptions based on no film on Jaylon at this level.. The Heisman was a bad comparison, you're right..

Is the comparison between LeBron making the jump from high school to the pros a fair comparison or not because of the different sports? Idk.. All I'm saying is don't count the dude out before he steps foot on campus.. Can we agree on that?

 

[ND NYC]

you guys are overanalyzing the whole jaylon/spond/jaylon PT dynamic for next year.

the best players play-regardless of age.

and that's it.

 

[Irish#1]

Hope EV follows Jaylon.

I hope Jaylon is working EV right now.


Might be old news, but just read an article where scUM made a late push for Jaylon visiting him at school. They tried to use BK's future as leverage. Jaylon's reply was "The Golden Dome isn't going anywhere."

What more can you say about this kid?

 

[sharksamardzija8345]

you guys are overanalyzing the whole jaylon/spond/jaylon PT dynamic for next year.

the best players play-regardless of age.

and that's it.

Just some healthy debate brother.. Glad you're on my side though lol.. Best player will play

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Just some healthy debate brother.. Glad you're on my side though lol.. Best player will play

And I am on your side, too. Because you said best player. Not player with most potential.

And on top if this we have Frank Leahey's dictum down, "I don't put the eleven best men on the field, but the best eleven." We will have accomplished something!

 

[sharksamardzija8345]

And I am on your side, too. Because you said best player. Not player with most potential.

And on top if this we have Frank Leahey's dickim down, "I don't put the eleven best men on the field, but the eleven best." We will have accomplished something!

Exactly.. Great example of some healthy debate without getting personal.. People take note of my man Bogs.. cant wait to see the squad next year.. Regardless of who gets the nod they're going to be efficient because the competition is going to be so fierce

 

[Irish To The Core]

Danny Spond is very good, if Jaylon beats him out that is great, it means Jaylon is more effective than Spond and Spond is a very effectivel lb. If Spond wins the competition that is also great b/c Jaylon is an absolute athletic stud. Certainly by the end of the season I would expect to see quite a bit of Jaylon & Spond depending on the situation.

On another note, isn't it nice to see a 5 star of Jaylon's caliber generate absolutely zero controversy during his recruitment? He chose ND and that was all she wrote. This guy is going to be a great leader as well as the best lb in college football.

 

[Booslum31]

Danny Spond is very good, if Jaylon beats him out that is great, it means Jaylon is more effective than Spond and Spond is a very effectivel lb. If Spond wins the competition that is also great b/c Jaylon is an absolute athletic stud. Certainly by the end of the season I would expect to see quite a bit of Jaylon & Spond depending on the situation.

On another note, isn't it nice to see a 5 star of Jaylon's caliber generate absolutely zero controversy during his recruitment. He chose ND and that was all she wrote. This guy is going to be a great leader as well as the best lb in college football.

This! He never waivered and didn't seek the attention that most Five Stars do.

 

[palinurus]

This! He never waivered and didn't seek the attention that most Five Stars do.

This kid is solid gold. Everything you say about him is true: no headaches, no drama; he's happy he pulls down the Mr Football Indiana award, he says, because he wanted to bring the award to his hometown for the first time, and he continues to work his shifts at the local Burger King, driving his green 1995 Monte Carlo back and forth, because he's no hotshot, just a kid looking to work hard, and that's what you're supposed to do.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Exactly.. Great example of some healthy debate without getting personal.. People take note of my man Bogs.. cant wait to see the squad next year.. Regardless of who gets the nod they're going to be efficient because the competition is going to be so fierce

ZACTLY.

Next year going to be great!

So man, that me and you in your new avatar? Or what?

PS. Everybody, good points about Jaylon's character!

 

[NDFAN22]

I know hes been our main recruiter, but I still wish he had been able to be there JAN 25th with Vanderdoes.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Maybe Eddie or someone on the staff asked him not to come. Maybe he didn't need to come.

 

[NDFAN22]

Maybe Eddie or someone on the staff asked him not to come. Maybe he didn't need to come.

true, I just thought it was said that he was going to be there. I guess EV could of just wanted to see it for himself.

 

[arrowryan]

Jaylon Smith didn't make it because he lives in Indiana and in Indiana we have very nasty winters sometimes.

The driving conditions were terrible

 

[Domina Nostra]

Final prediction:

- Because we need Councell to move to the inside...
- Because (IMHO) we have 3 guys that can play CAT at high level (Shembo, Okwara, Williams),
- Because Okwara seems too big to drop into coverage on a regular basis, which DOGs must do...
- Becausewe will have very little depth at either DOG or CAT depending on where Okwara lands...
- Because Jaylon's best asset is his speed, but he needs a little time to get get up to full size...

I think Jaylon begins his freshman year as the #2 DOG, backing up Spond, with assurances that he will still be blitzing and that he will most likley be moved over to CAT in the future. He'll be used like a bigger, faster Jamoris Slaughter.

We may even see He and Spond on the field at the same time in some passing downs.