'13 FL ILB Michael Deeb (Notre Dame Signed LOI)

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do you even grill brah? :D

Love this kid, reminds me of Carlo in terms of attitude but i hope he offers more explosion on the field than #44
 

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Intelligent polished young man. Kelly will not have to worry when the microphone gets in front of him during his ND stay.
 
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I've been skeptical of his height and still am, but watching his senior film and it's hard to imagine this guy not being a really, really good CFB player. He seems to really bring the energy and be one of those '110%' guys. The great thing about guys like him are that they don't let other people slack off. I hope Deeb is that guy and appears to be. Senior film is embedded below in case you haven't seen.

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I've been skeptical of his height and still am, but watching his senior film and it's hard to imagine this guy not being a really, really good CFB player. He seems to really bring the energy and be one of those '110%' guys. The great thing about guys like him are that they don't let other people slack off. I hope Deeb is that guy and appears to be. Senior film is embedded below in case you haven't seen.

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~2:54

That. is. hustle... Jumping the pile, not always the brightest idea, but that shows me how hard he plays.

And having seen this before, I still am most impressed by how well he reads the plays. His vision is fantastic.
 

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One thing im wondering (which isnt really important) but why isnt he ranked a little higher?
 

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I love his pass rushing skills as well. Alot of people said he reminded them of Carlo. I disagree, I think he has much more upside and he can do alot more than Carlo could coming out of HS.
 

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great motor, looks like he absolutely loves to hit. he will contribute a lot before he graduates from ND. Glad to have him.
 

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~2:54

That. is. hustle... Jumping the pile, not always the brightest idea, but that shows me how hard he plays.

And having seen this before, I still am most impressed by how well he reads the plays. His vision is fantastic.

More solidifying my comparison to Urlacher. That is one of his best traits.

One thing im wondering (which isnt really important) but why isnt he ranked a little higher?

My thought is that he plays amongst all the top tier talent in FL so he may get lost in the mix up down there. If he were in another state, I think his ranking may be higher. Just my thoughts on it.
 

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This is a subtlety that I'm no expert on. "Height", except for quarterbacks who have to see over the linemen instantly, usually doesn't translate into better football play in and of itself. For the guys who are engaged in combat, whether mano-a-mano or in a fight to catch or deflect a ball, it is extension of the arm levers which makes the difference, rather than how far into the air the top of your head is. [almost no tackling nor pass deflecting takes place with the top of your head].

So what does this have to do with Michael? Well, I don't know, but in the films and in a couple of pictures I've seen of him standing, his arm length looks pretty good to me [hanging about two-thirds of the way down the thigh to the knees.] Now this is too tough to assess with the pictures, but if it's true, then his "extension" could be that of a guy 6'3" or so [this is a thing I look at because that is how my 6'0" frame is built, with the wingspan of a 6'3" guy; very valuable as a "surprise" in basketball].

I will be happy to be informed differently on this, and also happy to be educated on other reasons why the actual height of the eyeballs difference between 6'1" and 6'3" is significant. But I thought that this was worth mentioning as IE always makes "bad assumptions" on this simple top-of-the-head measuring stick rather than wondering about the actual extension --- which we're almost never told, and I wish we were.
 
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That. is. hustle... Jumping the pile, not always the brightest idea, but that shows me how hard he plays.

And having seen this before, I still am most impressed by how well he reads the plays. His vision is fantastic.

I like his film.
 

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This is a subtlety that I'm no expert on. "Height", except for quarterbacks who have to see over the linemen instantly, usually doesn't translate into better football play in and of itself. For the guys who are engaged in combat, whether mano-a-mano or in a fight to catch or deflect a ball, it is extension of the arm levers which makes the difference, rather than how far into the air the top of your head is. [almost no tackling nor pass deflecting takes place with the top of your head].

So what does this have to do with Michael? Well, I don't know, but in the films and in a couple of pictures I've seen of him standing, his arm length looks pretty good to me [hanging about two-thirds of the way down the thigh to the knees.] Now this is too tough to assess with the pictures, but if it's true, then his "extension" could be that of a guy 6'3" or so [this is a thing I look at because that is how my 6'0" frame is built, with the wingspan of a 6'3" guy; very valuable as a "surprise" in basketball].

I will be happy to be informed differently on this, and also happy to be educated on other reasons why the actual height of the eyeballs difference between 6'1" and 6'3" is significant. But I thought that this was worth mentioning as IE always makes "bad assumptions" on this simple top-of-the-head measuring stick rather than wondering about the actual extension --- which we're almost never told, and I wish we were.

You're mostly correct here. Height in and of itself, as you said, doesn't generally do much in football except for QBs and, to a lesser extent, ILBs because both need to consistently see over the big fellas in front of them to diagnose the play. That being said, height is an important factor in the surface-level evaluation of a prospect because of the traits that are derived from height. For example, a 6'6" O lineman is probably going to be able to pack more weight onto his frame than a 6'3" O lineman, a 6'4" WR is probably going to have a greater wingspan than a 6'1" WR, and, going the opposite direction, a 5'10" RB is probably going to have a lower center of gravity, and therefore better balance and agility, than a 6'2" RB.
 

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You're mostly correct here. Height in and of itself, as you said, doesn't generally do much in football except for QBs and, to a lesser extent, ILBs because both need to consistently see over the big fellas in front of them to diagnose the play. That being said, height is an important factor in the surface-level evaluation of a prospect because of the traits that are derived from height. For example, a 6'6" O lineman is probably going to be able to pack more weight onto his frame than a 6'3" O lineman, a 6'4" WR is probably going to have a greater wingspan than a 6'1" WR, and, going the opposite direction, a 5'10" RB is probably going to have a lower center of gravity, and therefore better balance and agility, than a 6'2" RB.

That's primarily what OMM is getting at. We frequently use height as a proxy for wingspan, but it's an unreliable correlation. If Deeb's wingspan : height ratio is greater than average, then reservations about his height are probably irrelevant.
 

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That's primarily what OMM is getting at. We frequently use height as a proxy for wingspan, but it's an unreliable correlation. If Deeb's wingspan : height ratio is greater than average, then reservations about his height are probably irrelevant.

Yeah for sure. All I'm saying is in the absence of other, more specific measurements, height is just about the only thing we have that allows us to make a reasonable guess at some of those measurements.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Nothing like coming home to the punching bag after training. �� Perfect way to pass time until dinner ������</p>— Michael Deeb (@MichaelDeeb42) <a href="https://twitter.com/MichaelDeeb42/status/297134382127386624">February 1, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Work ethic is off the charts. I love this kid and I don't care who knows it.

Hi I'm Chris Hanson, have a seat right over there.
HAPPY NSD!!!
Welcome Seen!
 

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Hi I'm Chris Hanson, have a seat right over there.
HAPPY NSD!!!
Welcome Seen!

^LOL and Ironman I'm very happy for you. I got to admit though that Mr. Hanson may be looking for me too because Deeb seems like the definition of RKG.
 
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