Wes Welker's Wife Goes Off on Ray Lewis

[irishog77]

Come on man after this long? Hes payed his dues, odds are you are religious as with most of you on this board, is forgiveness just rhetoric?

No, it isn't. I think the problem people have with Lewis is that him being "religious" is simply rhetoric.

As I've said before, most people on this board (nor rational thinkers) really believe that a dude that continues to blow loads in various women's kooches is all that "religious."

Ray Ray is religious in public, when it suits him. Nor has he ever offered any type of public atonement for what he did in Atlanta. And a public wrong requires some level of public atonement.

 

[GoIrish41]

My son and I have been watching Lewis' reactions after the past few games and how he completely hams it up for the cameras with his astonishinly overdramatic emotional outbursts as cameras encircle him. When he got interviewed two games ago, he made quite a spectacle of himself. That was topped this week when he fell to his hands and knees and remained there for several minutes calling out to the Lord as if he had just been a part of some grand miracle. He is a way over the top, camera hound. Much of what he does is just for public consumption.

 

[irishog77]

My son and I have been watching Lewis' reactions after the past few games and how he completely hams it up for the cameras with his astonishinly overdramatic emotional outbursts as cameras encircle him. When he got interviewed two games ago, he made quite a spectacle of himself. That was topped this week when he fell to his hands and knees and remained there for several minutes calling out to the Lord as if he had just been a part of some grand miracle. He is a way over the top, camera hound. Much of what he does is just for public consumption.

Loved it also how before the Colts game, he did his dance, but had a piece of sod placed there beside him....then claimed later that he "had nothing planned."

Right, Ray, a piece of sod just happened to appear on an artificial playing surface before your ad libbed-entrance, on-the-fly grand entrance.

 

[GoIrish41]

Loved it also how before the Colts game, he did his dance, but had a piece of sod placed there beside him....then claimed later that he "had nothing planned."

Right, Ray, a piece of sod just happened to appear on an artificial playing surface before your ad libbed-entrance, on-the-fly grand entrance.

He does his endzone dances before the game starts -- that has always bugged me a bit.

 

[Booslum31]

My son and I have been watching Lewis' reactions after the past few games and how he completely hams it up for the cameras with his astonishinly overdramatic emotional outbursts as cameras encircle him. When he got interviewed two games ago, he made quite a spectacle of himself. That was topped this week when he fell to his hands and knees and remained there for several minutes calling out to the Lord as if he had just been a part of some grand miracle. He is a way over the top, camera hound. Much of what he does is just for public consumption.

The Media totally let's him get away with it. While they crush Tebow for injecting his faith into everything he does, they praise Lewis for it. The Media hates religion in any form. They let Lewis get away with it because they know he isn't sincere...they crush Tebow (Teo) because they know they mean it. Lewis is not a good person.

 

[phgreek]

She just painted a bullseye on her husband for the Ravens. They will have to wait until next year to tee off.

...good news is the only guy that might kill him will be retired by then...

 

[kmoose]

Wow. He completely changed his life around after those murders. We all give Te'o a pass for lying because he's embarrassed, well how about lying because two 'friends' may have cost you your lifes work?

What he did in the past is really no worse than a good portion of the NFL and if you can't forgive his past transgressions thats fine, but don't act like the Ray Lewis of today is a bad guy. Heck, hes retiring because he promised his son that he'd be at his games.

To say that 'somebody had to say it' when there have been multiple stories rehashing the murder case is silly.

Hall of Fame Player? Yes
True Role Model? Yes

So you're saying that a good portion of the NFL have done worse than lie to police who are investigating murders? We're not talking about lying about a teammate cheating on his wife, or lying about a teammate using drugs; this is murder!! If you can't see the difference, that's fine, but don't act like Lewis was just guilty of typical late teen/early adult hijinx.

 

[overeazy]

Your Right

Your Right

Come on man after this long? Hes payed his dues, odds are you are religious as with most of you on this board, is forgiveness just rhetoric?

Why not just swing open those jail cells, all is forgiven. Exactly what dues has he paid for the life of two young men? Nine men in that limo, confrontation with two men ends with their death, nobody seen anything. Ray Lewis is a role model. Well maybe for the mafia he could be. I will bet there are a lot of people in prison that would like to pay their due to society being on the outside.

 

[Domina Nostra]

Maybe the prosecutor offered a deal to get Lewis' testimony, thinking that his case against Lewis' homies was stronger, but still needed some kind of eyewitness testimony. Prosecutors make deals with people that they think are guilty all of the time, in an attempt to try to ensure a conviction. Lewis lied to the police the day after the murders, telling them that he wasn't even there. Hence, the obstruction of justice charge. This wasn't a case of whether or not someone took improper benefits from a booster, it was about murder. So that speaks volumes to me of Lewis' character, and therefore, his credibility. Why couldn't he find the white suit that he was wearing, the night that the two men were stabbed to death, so the authorities were never able to examine it for evidence?

I don't know if he killed anyone or not. I just "know" that he is hiding something about his involvement that night.

No general argument.

But my point is that their is a big difference between a prosecutor "thinking" Lewis did it, and a prosecutor having evidence to prove it. This was a high profile murder case. A prosecutors is not going to plead down a celebrity murderer for a crack at two minor thugs unless his circumstantial evidence is not great. There was a ton of circumstantial evidence that Lewis was hiding something, but there was also a lot that he was not actually involved in the fight. The only guy that put him in the fight as a participant and that guy had been convicted of fraud. In other words, there is clearly evidence of obstruction of justice, I am just not so sure why people think he killed anyone. I hate the idea of someone being labeled a murderer if he didn't actually murder someone.

As far as charachter goes, there is NO DOUBT that the decision to hang out with violent thugs and then try to cover your butt in a criminal prosecution casts a huge shaddow on you. However, people do change and I don't think there have been any stories of him hanging out with anyone shady at all since then. You mostly hear about him reaching out to the crazy young NFL players, exercising, giving a Christianese motivational talk, or buying a Bentley. I hope Lewis changed just like I hope Kobe and Ben did (or Magic Johnson for that matter).

 

[irishpat183]

Wow. He completely changed his life around after those murders. We all give Te'o a pass for lying because he's embarrassed, well how about lying because two 'friends' may have cost you your lifes work?

What he did in the past is really no worse than a good portion of the NFL and if you can't forgive his past transgressions thats fine, but don't act like the Ray Lewis of today is a bad guy. Heck, hes retiring because he promised his son that he'd be at his games.

To say that 'somebody had to say it' when there have been multiple stories rehashing the murder case is silly.

Hall of Fame Player? Yes
True Role Model? Yes

Hey Ray, shouldn't you be prepping for the Super Bowl?


Sheesh

 

[Kingbish01]

Hey Ray, shouldn't you be prepping for the Super Bowl?


Sheesh

Bahahahahahah

 

[phgreek]

Hey Ray, shouldn't you be prepping for the Super Bowl?


Sheesh

side hurts...STOP IT!

 

[Ndaccountant]

No general argument.

But my point is that their is a big difference between a prosecutor "thinking" Lewis did it, and a prosecutor having evidence to prove it. This was a high profile murder case. A prosecutors is not going to plead down a celebrity murderer for a crack at two minor thugs unless his circumstantial evidence is not great. There was a ton of circumstantial evidence that Lewis was hiding something, but there was also a lot that he was not actually involved in the fight. The only guy that put him in the fight as a participant and that guy had been convicted of fraud. In other words, there is clearly evidence of obstruction of justice, I am just not so sure why people think he killed anyone. I hate the idea of someone being labeled a murderer if he didn't actually murder someone.

As far as charachter goes, there is NO DOUBT that the decision to hang out with violent thugs and then try to cover your butt in a criminal prosecution casts a huge shaddow on you. However, people do change and I don't think there have been any stories of him hanging out with anyone shady at all since then. You mostly hear about him reaching out to the crazy young NFL players, exercising, giving a Christianese motivational talk, or buying a Bentley. I hope Lewis changed just like I hope Kobe and Ben did (or Magic Johnson for that matter).

IIRC, the issue was that the stories Lewis gave and those of others in the limo conflicted. They knew they could get Lewis to plead down in hopes that his testimony would result in a conviction, but even his testimony was hazy and he couldn't recall important details. Please correct me if I am wrong since it has been years since I read anything about this case. I just remember feeling that he knew exactly what happened but protected himself and his buddies at the expense of the two dead young men.

 

[NDinL.A.]

Wow. He completely changed his life around after those murders. We all give Te'o a pass for lying because he's embarrassed, well how about lying because two 'friends' may have cost you your lifes work?

What he did in the past is really no worse than a good portion of the NFL and if you can't forgive his past transgressions thats fine, but don't act like the Ray Lewis of today is a bad guy. Heck, hes retiring because he promised his son that he'd be at his games.

To say that 'somebody had to say it' when there have been multiple stories rehashing the murder case is silly.

Hall of Fame Player? Yes
True Role Model? Yes

H-O-L-Y S-H-I-T. I had to check out your last few posts to make sure you weren't really a Miami fan trolling us. And you're not. You just have, well, an interesting opinion on how we should view role models.

Put it this way, if I ever have a son, I NEVER want him fathering children with women he isn't married to, and if he does, that he learns from it and hopefully never does it again. I NEVER want him acting a fool like Ray Lewis did in nightclubs (there are stories and even videos). Call me crazy, but I NEVER want him involved in murder investigations, especially being prominently involved (I know, I'm probably too over-protective). And I NEVER want him to be so insecure and starving for attention that he has to dance and over-preach and make sure the cameras are watching when he prays. And I NEVER want him to do steroids (go ahead and rip me for it, but open your damn eyes people - and yes, it's not just him, but he is who we are talking about).

And if my daughter ever brings home a dude like that, she will be cut off from the family.

Ray Lewis is a lot of things, but a "true role model"???? Child please.

 

[irish1958]

LOL.....Boxed wine has struck again.


But she's smokin hot. How did a hobbit land her?

I understand he has big feet.

 

[scUM Hater]

So what kid # and Wife # is this? Oh, I probably shouldn't have. I apologize.

 

[Rocky2820]

Loved it also how before the Colts game, he did his dance, but had a piece of sod placed there beside him....then claimed later that he "had nothing planned."

Right, Ray, a piece of sod just happened to appear on an artificial playing surface before your ad libbed-entrance, on-the-fly grand entrance.

He has had a piece of sod like that placed there before games for quite a while now. Nothing new about that for the Colts game.

 

[scUM Hater]

I believe those are old pics. She is married now. She let herself go.

 

[ickythump1225]

I can't stand Ray Lewis and his glory hound attention hog tactics, I hate his silly stupid dance, and I hate that he's been overrated for a good half decade. I don't want him to get another ring. I will be cheering for the 49ers.

 

[tadman95]

Is it me or does the Title of this thread still seem not quite right?

 

[scUM Hater]

I am torn. Can't stand Ray or Jim scUMBaugh. Maybe the roof will collapse.

 

[ARALOU]

I can't stand Ray Lewis and his glory hound attention hog tactics, I hate his silly stupid dance, and I hate that he's been overrated for a good half decade. I don't want him to get another ring. I will be cheering for the 49ers.

Reps! Plus he is from the "U". That is enough to despise him in itself.

 

[Pa Golden Tate Fan]

Ray can join OJ's quest to find the real murderers after the Super Bowl.

 

[scUM Hater]

Ray can join OJ's quest to find the real murderers after the Super Bowl.

Please move to the conspiracy thread

 

[Irish#1]

I personally think its hilarious but I can see Wes just shaking his head, knowing the medias run with it. Funny how he is painted a role model by the media and Te'o is being crucified by some of the media!

I'm with you. The media is making this a slobber lovefest and then the commish gives him some man love on the sidelines before the Colts game. People need to remember who this guy is. His gun is used in the murder and the suit he wore that night magically disappears.

I read where the mother of one of the victims calls and/or writes Lewis every year on the anniversary of her sons death.

 

[Irish#1]

Wes needs to put his wife in her place and let her know that if she doesn't stop speaking the truth he is not going to sleep with her anymore.

Would that be the bed?

 

[scUM Hater]

Would that be the bed?

Kitchen and laundry room

 

[pkt77242]

Kitchen and laundry room

Barefoot and pregnant.

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

I'm with you. The media is making this a slobber lovefest and then the commish gives him some man love on the sidelines before the Colts game. People need to remember who this guy is. His gun is used in the murder and the suit he wore that night magically disappears.

I read where the mother of one of the victims calls and/or writes Lewis every year on the anniversary of her sons death.

It was a stabbing....Not a shooting.

 

[dudesthisisthebest]

H-O-L-Y S-H-I-T. I had to check out your last few posts to make sure you weren't really a Miami fan trolling us. And you're not. You just have, well, an interesting opinion on how we should view role models.

Put it this way, if I ever have a son, I NEVER want him fathering children with women he isn't married to, and if he does, that he learns from it and hopefully never does it again. I NEVER want him acting a fool like Ray Lewis did in nightclubs (there are stories and even videos). Call me crazy, but I NEVER want him involved in murder investigations, especially being prominently involved (I know, I'm probably too over-protective). And I NEVER want him to be so insecure and starving for attention that he has to dance and over-preach and make sure the cameras are watching when he prays. And I NEVER want him to do steroids (go ahead and rip me for it, but open your damn eyes people - and yes, it's not just him, but he is who we are talking about).

And if my daughter ever brings home a dude like that, she will be cut off from the family.

Ray Lewis is a lot of things, but a "true role model"???? Child please.

I can definitely understand your side of the argument. Like you said we really just disagree on our definitions of role models. By true role model I don't mean live your life like he did/does. I mean that his story and the hard work and success he has produced is something to admire/strive for. I obviously wouldn't want my son/daughter to have to learn that from making all the bad decisions first like Ray Lewis did and I wouldn't want my child to ever try to live exactly like someone else no matter who they are.


The steroid issue is one that pretty much applies too every professional athlete. I'm skeptical of pretty much everyone, but to condemn based on looks alone is crazy. There are much bigger/stronger guys on Notre Dame even.

Lastly, did I just get in an altercation with the IE 'enforcer'? Love your posts NDinLA


edit: it appears as though Alabama linebacker Nico Johnson sees Ray Lewis as a role model and hearing him talk he sounded intelligent and will actually be graduating from Alabama.
Alabama's Nico Johnson has looked up to Ray Lewis - JSOnline