Who is Likely Next (2013)

ThePiombino

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Damn this month! Damn it!

All of these lows better end with one big high on the 25th. That's all I gots to say.

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Edit: I'm not freaking out that we'll lose Terean. I'm just sick of all the negative news that keeps popping up. When will it end *sigh*

Who's Terean?
 

IrishLax

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Really seems like the title game loss + Kelly flirtation getting blown out of proportion + this ridiculous hoax thing have destroyed whatever momentum we had. Right now I'm just hoping we hold on to who we have. SMH. Can't remember the last time we had a good January.
 
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Grahambo

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Really seems like the title game loss + Kelly flirtation getting blown out of proportion + this ridiculous hoax thing have destroyed whatever momentum we had. Right now I'm just hoping we hold on to who we have. SMH. Can't remember the last time we had a good January.

I hear ya. Just glad a guy like Jaylon is solid.
 
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GoIrish399

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Really seems like the title game loss + Kelly flirtation getting blown out of proportion + this ridiculous hoax thing have destroyed whatever momentum we had. Right now I'm just hoping we hold on to who we have. SMH. Can't remember the last time we had a good January.

Are you saying this because of anything specific? We still have a couple of BIG recruiting weekends coming up, so I'm pretty optimistic.
 

jerboski

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He is probably referring to the unexpected Folston visit, Alex decommitting, and Greg supposedly being solid but still listening to Auburn and considering a trip before being talked out of it
 

IrishLax

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He is probably referring to the unexpected Folston visit, Alex decommitting, and Greg supposedly being solid but still listening to Auburn and considering a trip before being talked out of it

Yup, all of this. I'm sure coaches around the country are calling players saying stuff like "you can't believe anything ND says" or "ND is a fraud like Manti" and stuff like that... also probably playing up BK to NFL angle... just a lot of stuff moving in the WRONG direction.
 

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It's unbelievable how much momentum seems to be lost, the last few months we had such an unbelievable run of high moments and I honestly thought we would finish with a bang. However, now I am just hoping we keep the ones we have.
 

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Agree fellas. Like you I don't think everything falls apart but I do think that we have shot ourselves in the foot with all this drama. The worst part is that some of it could have been controlled and wasn't (the BK incident).
 

IrishLax

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The thing is all of the chips are still on the table and it seems more likely than not that no one decommits. So this can all still end well. EV is the linchpin.

If we close with EV, Smythe, LaRue/Hollins it'd still be a darn strong finish. But each of those guys is a coin flip at best right now.
 

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Really seems like the title game loss + Kelly flirtation getting blown out of proportion + this ridiculous hoax thing have destroyed whatever momentum we had. Right now I'm just hoping we hold on to who we have. SMH. Can't remember the last time we had a good January.

No good January's and still improving the program. Me=not worried.
 

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It's unbelievable how much momentum seems to be lost, the last few months we had such an unbelievable run of high moments and I honestly thought we would finish with a bang. However, now I am just hoping we keep the ones we have.

Momentum is still there. Keep your head up. Staff are workin their asses off.
 

JughedJones

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I've got to think TP is right here.

The fact that we have retained everyone so far through Kelly's flirtations and this silly mess with Manti, it shows how hard the coaches have been working and the loyalty of the kids they targeted.

I'm pretty damn optimistic that not only will we keep this class intact, but we will get a nice surprise or two as well.

This is still ND. That season we had is still real.
 

Irish Man3

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Next weekend is a big weekend for ND obviously. Big fish is EV but there are some other really talented kids coming in.

Patience.
 

TheTurningPoint

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I've got to think TP is right here.

The fact that we have retained everyone so far through Kelly's flirtations and this silly mess with Manti, it shows how hard the coaches have been working and the loyalty of the kids they targeted.

I'm pretty damn optimistic that not only will we keep this class intact, but we will get a nice surprise or two as well.

This is still ND. That season we had is still real.


Exactly...Sure there has been bad press over the last 12 days, but the Manti situation is the only thing that really needs explaining. If you go to a BCS game, much less the Title game, theres going to be NFL interest. I truly think that the kids/players understand it more than the fanbase. Its a business. The kids are picking their schools on business decisions for their life, and Kelly has to do his thing as well. Like he told Butler, it was something he had to take a look at, and who can fault him for that. I think the Manti thing is overrated from top to bottom. It was a terrible situation, but ND did exactly what they needed to from September till today. They stood by their guy through the ordeal, and its more of an individual thing instead of a school thing. People arent talking about ND getting waxed in the title game...and the staff can explain need to the kids left on the board based off that.

Also...the officials are still on and being schedules through the madness. That speaks volumes. If they cancel visits after visiting other schools this weekend thats a different situation, but ND isnt losing kids bc of the negative press
 
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Old Man Mike

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Some of the commentary above completely misses the way real relationships are formed and trump external gossip or "phonecalls" or any distant noisemaking. One good in-home personal touch with a guy who has become a family friend is mountains higher than the other stuff. The staff, being adults and good people and long experienced in personal interactions know all this, and are doing their personal touches. Only people who have always been teetering on the edge, or are young men with no good local guidance, can be swayed by distant nonsense and slurs vs the friendly and competent adult face of the person you know. IE board paranoia is more a measure of how much we posters do not understand about authentic professionals than real life.

People who would want to complain "well look what's happening to USC" might note that USC is losing and we are winning, and that USCs coach is being widely criticized as incompetent, while ours is Coach-of-the-Year, and their coach has mistreated several players, while our whole University has stood up for one of ours who got embarrassed. I am aware that no one has tried to defend the hysteria of losing the class with a "USC" argument, but it is the example of spectacular collapses like USC is experiencing which pollute people's minds that such might be possible with us. The "USC"/ND analogy fails about as badly as any can if attempted to be used to support the paranoia. In fact, the reasons WHY USC is losing commits is a strong datapoint as to why we will not. In fact, that some USC recruits STAY is proof that the personal touch will trump practically anything.

This terrible run of joy-killers we've experienced is affecting US, as fans. The program continues forward. This is not the first time that IE board posters mistake their own angst for the larger and deeper FOOTBALL reality. Our team and coaching staff are operating on the realm of football. And that's what football players and their families are interested in. And, oh, there's that thing about the Notre Dame degree --- THAT's a Bragging Right that can never go away in adult conversations.
 

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Everything will work out the way it's supposed to. I used to get so mad about losing commits or signing guys that weren't highly rated but now I'm more concerned about getting guys that want to be here! Our team is loaded as it stands now and there will be plenty of new blood next year to keep us all smiling!
 

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I'm not sure why everyone thinks we've lost some recruiting Mo. Yeah the Manti story along with the BK interview took away some of our enthusiam as we trade opinions, but I've not seen a whole lot to indicate this class in starting to come apart.

Other coaches are coming at our commits, but that happens every year. Besides BK is out right now visiting our commits and setting the story straight.
 
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