Lennay Kekua, A Hoax!

[Fbolt]

After watching the ESPN clip where Jeremy discusses the interview, seems to me that Jeremy made fairly clear Manti appeared to him to be truthful. I think that most people who are just "interested" in the story will believe Manti's account now. But those who love drama and only want controversy will find a way to still argue Manti and/or ND are somehow lying. Cannot do anything about that. But my guess is this story will now start to quickly die down as far as the press is concerned.

clear as mud. stating he's truthful kills the story.

 

[Irishtech]

I ran a google alerts for this hoax against T'eo and this popped up with some news source down south this morning. This is making him and ND look like fools. Now there is a Kentucky minor league baseball team doing some joke night against T'eo at their game in May. I can't believe people have no intention of letting this go.

Baseball team plans fake Te'o girlfriend bobblehead night | Sports - Home

 

[texbender]

As many have stated, the anti ND faction will never accept that this was anything but a ND/Manti ploy. While frustrating, I've come to accept the fact that there are just a lot of anti ND folks out there, no matter what the issue may be.
For me, this entire "story" has been just a mind blowing bizarre tale that in my world I never could imagine someone could concoct. While at first stunned when the story broke, experience told me to not jump to conclusions too early, that the dust needed to settle. I hoped when the A.D. spoke that that ND was confident that Manti was truly the victim, because otherwide ND was really going to expose itself to major harm. While it seems the dust is settling a bit, I don't doubt there is more to come in the story...but, I am feeling a bit better that Manti is the guy we have come to know, albeit very naive. As the A.D. said, Manti will never be the same going forward if indeed he was duped to this depth.

 

[Grahambo]

Its funny reading people now and the disappointment. Wishing for more juice but ending in a 'whimper'. As it was in the beginning, Occam's Razor.

 

[Meacon Irish]

I'm glad it was Schaap over any one else.

Jeremy, like his father, seems to want to get truth and details in a story over getting 'juicy' bits like most other journalists.

 

[Walter White]

Geez, apparently losing respect for him is a poor thing to say on these boards...

As a young man who has grown up in South Bend, a lifetime ND fan, I had looked up to Manti more than any person in my life. He was my hero, my idol, my role model. I wanted my future child to be like Manti.

He was very naive, but he was also tricked pretty convincingly by some loon. I feel terrible for Manti and the embarrassment he's now had to go through.

With that said, he did lie. He did embellish. There's no denying that. I just feel sort of betrayed that I put so much faith and trust into this person, only to have it all based on what turns out to be a lie.

As more info comes out, the more it seems Manti is telling the truth... but he will always be down a few notches for me.

Then you probably shouldn't put people on such high pedestals. People are people and are never anywhere close to perfect.

 

[Grahambo]

I see the High Horse Cavalry is in full force today.

 

[Irish Houstonian]

Can't Peyton Manning go punch a baby or something so we can all get past this?

 

[BobD]

Haters are gonna hate.
This story will die a slow death.
Manti will be drafted in the top 16.
He'll unfortunately always be known as the guy with the imaginary girlfriend.
Oddly enough he's probably the most famous college football player In the world now.
"Te'o' ing " IS funny and he'll have to live with that.

 

[zemaniak]

From the Schaap Article:
Quote:
• Te'o was never asked for money during the plot, but Kekua once requested his checking account number in order to send him money. Te'o did not provide his account number.

Swarbrick's comment about looking into someone trying to create an NCAA violation makes a little more sense.

Nobody else see this as HUGE?

 

[Walter White]

What did I say that was wrong?

Really?

You have been obnoxiously negative and have been asking juvenile questions that have already been answered.

Calling Manti responsible for the media's attention to the story, not understanding that Manti didn't know Lennay was not a Stanford grad (what?), claiming he lied because he didn't tell everyone that this was an online relationship from the start, continually claiming that Manti has been lying to the public.

I have no idea how you haven't been banned yet.

 

[BobD]

Now I can't trust everything on the internet.

 

[NDFan4Life]

 

[BobD]

THIS

 

[clashmore_mike]

Really?

You have been obnoxiously negative and have been asking juvenile questions that have already been answered.

Calling Manti responsible for the media's attention to the story, not understanding that Manti didn't know Lennay was not a Stanford grad (what?), claiming he lied because he didn't tell everyone that this was an online relationship from the start, continually claiming that Manti has been lying to the public.

I have no idea how you haven't been banned yet.

Thanks Walter. I wouldn't have said it as well.

 

[ARALOU]

Can't Peyton Manning go punch a baby or something so we can all get past this?

Or at least stick his *** or junk in a female reporters face again.

 

[phork]

Not sure if anyone saw this, but . . .

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This is freaking awesome. Goes along with this:

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Te'o provided cold, hard evidence. This is over folks.

I've lost some respect for Manti definitely, but I feel for him and will continue to root for him.

Lost respect. That is rich. This kid did nothing wrong, in the grand scheme of things, that we all probably would have done the same damn thing, told a little white lie about meeting this girl to make it sound not so crazy.

But he was paid!

Honestly the only thing that will fully vindicate Te'o is if the impersonators are criminally prosecuted and convicted. Supposedly the guy did something similar years ago on myspace? Well that is absolute proof right there.

I went to elevenwarriors (a bunch of asshats over there) a few days ago, and in the midst of their Te'o-hatred circlejerk, suggested a story very similar to what Te'o said. A lot of were all "the love of your life and you never meet her! LIES!" but....what if they were only being serious the last six months or so? DUH! I suggested that a guy a spiritual as Te'o would absolutely cling to someone who was in an accident/had cancer. That seems to be the case.

It sounds like the creeps were serial impersonators and the Te'o story didn't seriously fire up until May 2012. That is much more believable--and doesn't make Te'o look nearly as stupid--than thinking there were inseparable for three long years and he never saw her.

Still though SKYPE SKYPE SKYPE.

He tried Skype and Facetime... Blackscreen'd.

Also how dare you go to other message boards, it is verboten in these parts.

Now lets watch deadspin become the tabloid that its truly meant to be.

Teo was under the impression Lk existed and HOAXED him until two days ago when he found out from RT that she DID NOT EXIST AT ALL.

What a bunch of jabronis

He knew at Christmas, didn't come to grips with it until the last week.

Timothy Burke ‏@bubbaprog
We checked Te'o's follow list Tuesday & found no Ronaiah. How'd Ronaiah send the apology DM? In ESPN Interview, Manti Te'o Admits To "Tailoring His Stories," Says He Wasn't Convinced Lennay Kekua Was Fake Until Wednesday

Maybe the idiots umpteen fake accounts?

If Te'o never says anything about having a girlfriend back in September this is never talked about. He is the one that is responsible for this becoming such a big story. I don't understand why he felt the need to lie about anything.

He was in a supposed strong relationship with a girl, they shared scripture over the phone with Te'os parents, they were close. How could he not mention the passing of a friend?

Its funny reading people now and the disappointment. Wishing for more juice but ending in a 'whimper'. As it was in the beginning, Occam's Razor.

I think Occam's Razor has been mention more in this thread than in the history of this messageboard combined.


The really sick thing part I got out this was that this fake gf spoke to Te'os mom in regard to being a Mormon convert and talking with the parents on the phone.

Sad part is, like people have already alluded to, rivals and haters will never believe. Whats more is that they think that ND was knee deep in it as well.

 

[Patulski]

The one thing this episode reminded me of most is how much hatred there is out there for Notre Dame football. If you're gonna be an ND football fan you better know that comes with the territory. The sweetest revenge is victory.

 

[We_Are_ND]

OMG....

Tuiasosopas messages to Manti via DM on Twitter
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2013/0119/ncf_t_teolennaytweet_400.jpg

 

[NDFan4Life]

 

[tadman95]

After Sunday's and Monday's round of talk shows I believe this story peters out for the most part. There will be plenty who don't believe him, I just mark that up to the power of the Notre Dame brand.

Golic should be fun on Monday, assuming he's there. Actually he'll probably be pretty professional about it.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Okay, so I grew up in a different era. When I was a kid:

To explain how a girl I dated for about 6 months or a year, and I met; we had common friends and we kept getting introduced at social events. The truth; we met at a traffic light when a car full of girls openly (and loudly) admired my car, and I limped out of the car's passenger side, with my leg in a cast, on crutches and won the heart of the cutest girl in the car, who was an aspiring socialite, (yes, apparently they had those in Toledo.)

How two of my high school teammates ended up in the hospital? They accidentally lost control on a curve, slipping on gravel in a one car accident. What really happened; we were racing and they had been drinking, (just a little) and they lost control, slid into a telephone pole at about a hundred, tore the car in half, behind the front seat, which remained in tact, the driver and passenger sustained concussions and minor injuries, no alcohol test administered, also received help with the accident report on the scene, because the answering officer was a family friend of the passenger.

The bazaar thing about that last story is everyone was convinced that a friend of ours was in the back seat and we were all crying and vomiting and yelling, tripping in fields of nettles and poison ivy, looking desperately for our friend, not wanting to find him, not sure of what we would find; served us right. (Those of us who were stupid enough to put our clothes in the laundry, had mothers that looked at the clothes, and assumed something far different than what happened and grabbed us and hugged us and wept. I still feel bad about this today.)

Here is the point. EVERYBODY has lied like this. Some to a much greater extent. The most honest kid I knew growing up, decided he would be married before he lost his virginity, and so he lied by omission, and then embellished it for attention a little, before he was done. That was the same kind of thing Manti actually did.

I quoted scripture before, I will quote it again, "Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone!"

And if you want to know how this need to lie for acceptance gets started, my earlier post is a good example. I told a story about meeting a fraudulent person on a legitimate dating service, to show how believable things could be, and right away, someone I considered to be a good friend started to make fun of me. Behind my back and to my face! When people can't understand how this can happen it is because they are lying, and forgetting what kind of beasts we all are!

 

[Patulski]

OMG....

Tuiasosopas messages to Manti via DM on Twitter
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2013/0119/ncf_t_teolennaytweet_400.jpg

This guy has serious psychological problems. Even after his hoax, he is still seeking public attention. Dude, get off the internet. Communicate privately. Sheesh, I feel sorry for his parents.

 

[ThePiombino]

This guy has serious psychological problems. Even after his hoax, he is still seeking public attention. Dude, get off the internet. Communicate privately. Sheesh, I feel sorry for his parents.

You realize DMs are private, right?

 

[ND NYC]

after having lived thru this week, like ll of you, i really, truly believe that if manti had broke this thing and not deadspin than he would have been, from the outset, viewed as a complete victim and the narrative would have been so much "less worse" than it is.

manti's PR people made a HUGE mistake for their client.
you could read between the lines of Jack in presser that he wanted this to come out by Manti as well.
hell-he even allowed his weekend broadcast to leak early in an attempt to get Manti to talk and talk FAST when it felt like manti might not say anything at all. he went to the wall for manti and was expecting manit to come clean on his end. no dount manti agents are thinking $$$ and not whatsmost important here.

(and pls dont say Manti still thought she was real up till 2 days ago...we all know thats BS and to believe that is pure blind loyalty)

 

[ND NYC]

no ND player should ever choose Tom Condon as his agent (see Quinn, Brady and Teo, Manti)

 

[NDohio]

Glad this is over. Now we can focus on recruiting again.

Manti will be OK after all this, that is all that matters. When he gets drafted he will have another new legion of fans who realize how special he is. Can't wait to see what he does at the next level.

 

[ND NYC]

they say in politics always leak the bad news on a friday late afternoon in the hopes it gets lost over the weekend....manti and his agents do this on midnigt on a friday...cant the timing be more worse to get "your side" of the story out--doing in this in the wee hours? they needed to do this schaap thing the night after jacks presser. day late dollar short. not for us granted, but for the "masses"

 

[Patulski]

You realize DMs are private, right?

WTF? I just read them. Or, is there something I'm not understanding about what I just read and the fact that there is a public link to the communication?

 

[ND NYC]

Nobody else see this as HUGE?

I'm with you!