Lennay Kekua, A Hoax!

BeauBenken

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Thats what im saying, she didn't exist and the whole story is beginning to sounding like BS because it wouldn't happen that way in real life.

Manti would have figured it out, he's not dumb, he got into Notre Dame right?

You may be surprised in how these people manage to con others.
 
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She WASN'T a Stanford student. She was made up. I don't know what lie they told Manti but you really refuse to believe there is some plausible lie to convince a college kids you don't have Skype?

How about this one? I'm in the hospital with Cancer (or car crash), I don't look my best.
 

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Thats what im saying, she didn't exist and the whole story is beginning to sounding like BS because it wouldn't happen that way in real life.

Manti would have figured it out, he's not dumb, he got into Notre Dame right?

This is starting to be beyond annoying. If you must stay please just read...not post
 
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My kids and I got into a huge argument about skype and why I wouldn't let them have it on their Ipods and Kindles to talk to their cousins.....

That's why we have phones, and I can control who they're talking to.

heads up, they can use their phones to "face time" and actually skype (I think).. unless you stick em with a 2008 samsung flip phone.. then you're probably scott free
 

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I'm starting to lose interest. This is on Manti now, he needs to address this in his own way.

It's not so much a Notre Dame story though the haters are going to assign it where they want. I personally think it's a shame because I believe Manti to be a decent person.

He's going to wear this for a long time regardless of what the story finally ends up being and by association, it will be thrown up against Notre Dame for years.

One final thought; Jack Swarbrick is the absolute last person I would want to lose that is associated with Notre Dame athletics.
 
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This is a complete generalization, but I have met a handful of people who are part of the LDS church and all had similar personalities. They are all very family oriented, do not use profanity, do not drink alcohol or even caffeine, and most would think they are socially awkward relative to today's social norms because of their lifestyles and beliefs. I think this is a significant part in creating a perfect storm for Te'o to be sucked up into something like this.

Te'o, an LDS Hawaiian comes to a Catholic school in the middle of Indiana. He's surrounded by people who celebrate the Jesus that turned water into wine and have different cultural, social, and religious beliefs than him. Although he is well-loved and respected by the ND community, I'm sure at times he has felt like an outsider. Along comes a good-looking woman who shares his values and is much closer to his home and everything he knows so he feels he can better relate to her. I think he is so kind, compassionate, and trusting that it made him naive in his approach to this situation. Imagine you are a midwestern Catholic man starring for the BYU football team and a pretty Catholic Chicago girl starts chatting with you. You're surrounded by Mormon girls that are different than you and she reminds you of home.

I also strongly believe the fabrications of meeting in person are a result of Te'o telling his family white lies because of the stigma associated with online dating. A star football player at ND shouldn't have trouble meeting girls in person or want to meet a woman across the country online. He's probably a bit embarrassed and tells his family he actually met Lennay in person. His father then relays these stories to the media. To be honest, these types of meetings happen way more than most of us are aware. Approximately 20% of marriages today started as online relationships, whether it be through a dating website, facebook, twitter, or a message board (any IE romance tales out there?). I guarantee most of you know someone who is or has been in a relationship or at least dated someone they met online, you just might not be aware of it since many do cover it up.

To conclude, at this point and with what I know, I believe Te'o was the victim of a cruel deception which took advantage of his trusting nature. All we can do now is wait and see how this plays out as more information is uncovered and becomes available.
 

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Since this thread has had no new developments in over a day, guess I'll post it here.

Burning Question:

Who is in your avatar Jughed?

I have no idea.













But seriously folks.... It's Jerry Garcia and Merl Saunders. Perhaps my favorite duo on the planet. (Well, they used to be on the planet.)






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One of the biggest bonehead errors of an individual mind is that the mediocre ones, or the ones who cannot empathize, continuously live in the fantasy that other people are basically just like themselves and so "they couldn't POSSIBLY have done this or that". In short they make up personalities for the people that they don't know but are criticizing.

I've been stunned [though I shouldn't have been] at how many people are making up Manti's personality for him even down to the point where he must use certain technology in his daily life. It is little wonder that so many people can be taken in by well-played tricks, since their own social intelligence is so limited.

Manti himself had undeveloped social intelligence, but at least he is a great and quietly introspective guy.
 

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This is a complete generalization, but I have met a handful of people who are part of the LDS church and all had similar personalities. They are all very family oriented, do not use profanity, do not drink alcohol or even caffeine, and most would think they are socially awkward relative to today's social norms because of their lifestyles and beliefs. I think this is a significant part in creating a perfect storm for Te'o to be sucked up into something like this.

Te'o, an LDS Hawaiian comes to a Catholic school in the middle of Indiana. He's surrounded by people who celebrate the Jesus that turned water into wine and have different cultural, social, and religious beliefs than him. Although he is well-loved and respected by the ND community, I'm sure at times he has felt like an outsider. Along comes a good-looking woman who shares his values and is much closer to his home and everything he knows so he feels he can better relate to her. I think he is so kind, compassionate, and trusting that it made him naive in his approach to this situation. Imagine you are a midwestern Catholic man starring for the BYU football team and a pretty Catholic Chicago girl starts chatting with you. You're surrounded by Mormon girls that are different than you and she reminds you of home.

I also strongly believe the fabrications of meeting in person are a result of Te'o telling his family white lies because of the stigma associated with online dating. A star football player at ND shouldn't have trouble meeting girls in person or want to meet a woman across the country online. He's probably a bit embarrassed and tells his family he actually met Lennay in person. His father then relays these stories to the media. To be honest, these types of meetings happen way more than most of us are aware. Approximately 20% of marriages today started as online relationships, whether it be through a dating website, facebook, twitter, or a message board (any IE romance tales out there?). I guarantee most of you know someone who is or has been in a relationship or at least dated someone they met online, you just might not be aware of it since many do cover it up.

To conclude, at this point and with what I know, I believe Te'o was the victim of a cruel deception which took advantage of his trusting nature. All we can do now is wait and see how this plays out as more information is uncovered and becomes available.

Great post...if I knew how to rep you I would.
 
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HereComeTheIrish

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heads up, they can use their phones to "face time" and actually skype (I think).. unless you stick em with a 2008 samsung flip phone.. then you're probably scott free

They're young enough that I'd put the fear of God in them that that can't doing anything social media-wise unless I sign off on it and take off the parental block on their systems.
 

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One of the biggest bonehead errors of an individual mind is that the mediocre ones, or the ones who cannot empathize, continuously live in the fantasy that other people are basically just like themselves and so "they couldn't POSSIBLY have done this or that". In short they make up personalities for the people that they don't know but are criticizing.

I've been stunned [though I shouldn't have been] at how many people are making up Manti's personality for him even down to the point where he must use certain technology in his daily life. It is little wonder that so many people can be taken in by well-played tricks, since their own social intelligence is so limited.

Manti himself had undeveloped social intelligence, but at least he is a great and quietly introspective guy.

OMM, I really enjoy your posts, my man. Reps.
 
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HereComeTheIrish

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One of the biggest bonehead errors of an individual mind is that the mediocre ones, or the ones who cannot empathize, continuously live in the fantasy that other people are basically just like themselves and so "they couldn't POSSIBLY have done this or that". In short they make up personalities for the people that they don't know but are criticizing.

I've been stunned [though I shouldn't have been] at how many people are making up Manti's personality for him even down to the point where he must use certain technology in his daily life. It is little wonder that so many people can be taken in by well-played tricks, since their own social intelligence is so limited.

Manti himself had undeveloped social intelligence, but at least he is a great and quietly introspective guy.

Couldn't agree more. Great post.
 

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One of the biggest bonehead errors of an individual mind is that the mediocre ones, or the ones who cannot empathize, continuously live in the fantasy that other people are basically just like themselves and so "they couldn't POSSIBLY have done this or that". In short they make up personalities for the people that they don't know but are criticizing.

I've been stunned [though I shouldn't have been] at how many people are making up Manti's personality for him even down to the point where he must use certain technology in his daily life. It is little wonder that so many people can be taken in by well-played tricks, since their own social intelligence is so limited.

Manti himself had undeveloped social intelligence, but at least he is a great and quietly introspective guy.

So overrated...IJS
 

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Another experience of mine which helps me believe Te'o's story occurred while I was attending college at ND. I received a random Facebook friend request from a cute girl who claimed to attend St. Mary's College. She had a few hundred friends, lots of pictures, full profile, others writing on her wall, etc. I did not know this woman so I assumed I had met her at a party or something and did not remember (entirely plausible).

The day after accepting the friend request, one of my friends/classmates sent me a message and asked me to come talk to her because she had something important to tell me regarding this random woman. My friend noticed this person and I became friends on Facebook and said she knew this woman. There was a huge problem, however. This woman was a fake account created by one of her friends and this was about the 3rd time her friends caught her with a fake account. Each time they caught her, she was confronted and took the account down for a while until starting a new one. The real person was, to put it bluntly, not attractive and quite overweight. The fake account was a pretty girl from another college who this person friended and proceeded to steal ALL of her Facebook pictures. This woman created a fake online persona and lived through it because she was unhappy with her own reality.

It's not unusual for people unhappy with their own lives to create a new one online. Some do this in the setting of online games while others stick to dating sites and social networking sites. Country singer, Brad Paisley even has a song on this topic (video stars Jason Alexander).

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Another experience of mine which helps me believe Te'o's story occurred while I was attending college at ND. I received a random Facebook friend request from a cute girl who claimed to attend St. Mary's College. She had a few hundred friends, lots of pictures, full profile, others writing on her wall, etc. I did not know this woman so I assumed I had met her at a party or something and did not remember (entirely plausible).

The day after accepting the friend request, one of my friends/classmates sent me a message and asked me to come talk to her because she had something important to tell me regarding this random woman. My friend noticed this person and I became friends on Facebook and said she knew this woman. There was a huge problem, however. This woman was a fake account created by one of her friends and this was about the 3rd time her friends caught her with a fake account. Each time they caught her, she was confronted and took the account down for a while until starting a new one. The real person was, to put it bluntly, not attractive and quite overweight. The fake account was a pretty girl from another college who this person friended and proceeded to steal ALL of her Facebook pictures. This woman created a fake online persona and lived through it because she was unhappy with her own reality.

did she have 6 toes?
 
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Another experience of mine which helps me believe Te'o's story occurred while I was attending college at ND. I received a random Facebook friend request from a cute girl who claimed to attend St. Mary's College. She had a few hundred friends, lots of pictures, full profile, others writing on her wall, etc. I did not know this woman so I assumed I had met her at a party or something and did not remember (entirely plausible).

The day after accepting the friend request, one of my friends/classmates sent me a message and asked me to come talk to her because she had something important to tell me regarding this random woman. My friend noticed this person and I became friends on Facebook and said she knew this woman. There was a huge problem, however. This woman was a fake account created by one of her friends and this was about the 3rd time her friends caught her with a fake account. Each time they caught her, she was confronted and took the account down for a while until starting a new one. The real person was, to put it bluntly, not attractive and quite overweight. The fake account was a pretty girl from another college who this person friended and proceeded to steal ALL of her Facebook pictures. This woman created a fake online persona and lived through it because she was unhappy with her own reality.

It's not unusual for people unhappy with their own lives to create a new one online. Some do this in the setting of online games while others stick to dating sites and social networking sites. Country singer, Brad Paisley even has a song on this topic (video stars Jason Alexander).

That's sad.
 
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Another experience of mine which helps me believe Te'o's story occurred while I was attending college at ND. I received a random Facebook friend request from a cute girl who claimed to attend St. Mary's College. She had a few hundred friends, lots of pictures, full profile, others writing on her wall, etc. I did not know this woman so I assumed I had met her at a party or something and did not remember (entirely plausible).

The day after accepting the friend request, one of my friends/classmates sent me a message and asked me to come talk to her because she had something important to tell me regarding this random woman. My friend noticed this person and I became friends on Facebook and said she knew this woman. There was a huge problem, however. This woman was a fake account created by one of her friends and this was about the 3rd time her friends caught her with a fake account. Each time they caught her, she was confronted and took the account down for a while until starting a new one. The real person was, to put it bluntly, not attractive and quite overweight. The fake account was a pretty girl from another college who this person friended and proceeded to steal ALL of her Facebook pictures. This woman created a fake online persona and lived through it because she was unhappy with her own reality.

It's not unusual for people unhappy with their own lives to create a new one online. Some do this in the setting of online games while others stick to dating sites and social networking sites. Country singer, Brad Paisley even has a song on this topic (video stars Jason Alexander).

That's sad.

It really is sad and what's more sad is how common it is.
 

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I do find some irony in random people on an online message board finding it difficult to believe Te'o formed a relationship with someone he only knew online. I've seen quite a few friendships form on IE over the years and I doubt many of us know each other outside of this site. I know exactly one person from here in real life and that's because I told a long-time friend and ND fan to join. For all we know, Old Man Mike is just a highly intelligent, wise beyond his years 15 year old.
 
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