Lennay Kekua, A Hoax!

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NEW DEVELOPMENT - Former ND teammate tells ESPN's Bob Holtzman that many players knew Lennay Kekua wasn't really Manti Te'o's girlfriend.
I took this as the former player knew she wasn't real and that Manti was being catfished.

But, Manti didn't want to see it as him being catfished.
 

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Perhaps was/is jealous of the attention he gleaned? Perhaps he thinks he didn't get enough credit?

Perhaps he's just sick of the lie and being a part of it?

Who knows. They also said "former teammate."

That means the player was a Senior.

My guess is it is a graduated player who is currently in the NFL. So everyone knew they weren't "dating" last season when they were talking.
 

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Why hasn't anyone talked about this (Maybe you all have and I missed it) but how this revelation affected the BCS National Championship??
The coaches found out Dec 26th and he found out the 6th...it clearly affected his play and possible the whole teams play.
Also, yeah its far reached, I know, but Kelly interviewing the Eagles. Was he trying to avoid this?
 
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Perhaps was/is jealous of the attention he gleaned? Perhaps he thinks he didn't get enough credit?

Perhaps he's just sick of the lie and being a part of it?

Who knows. They also said "former teammate."

That means the player was a Senior.

Te'o isn't part of the team anymore so everyone is his former teammate.
 

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That standard applies to criminal law so we don't lock up innocent people. It has nothing to do with how we form opinions based on a "preponderance of the evidence." For example, most people believe Casey Anthony and OJ Simpson are murderers and Michael Jackson is a weirdo, not because they were proven guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt," but because the evidence seems to indicate that it's so.



I don't DEMAND that anyone prove it to ME.
I WANT them to prove it to EVERYONE.

I believe in Manti/ND. Shoot me, but I don't get a fuzzy feeling when other people hate on my University. If any additional investigation is going to prove that the haters are flat-out wrong on this one, I want that evidence to come out.

Word. I know what you mean settle this stuff now. Why wait and let every angle be exploited?
 

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It'd be dumb to dismiss it just because you disagree or don't like what was said. You could be right, or you could be dead wrong. But don't dismiss it.

I think we could all agree that Manti wasn't the best of friends with teammates like you'd expect... we just never really put much thought into it.

No, it's not dumb. It's smart. I dismiss EVERYTHING that says "anonymous sources." More often than not they are completely full of misinformation or entirely fabricated.

Mike Tirico talked today about all of the Jon Gruden reports from anonymous sources that were hilarious because they were clearly straight lies. Like one that said he was in Miami picking out a house WHILE GRUDEN WAS SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO HIM.

If there is no name attached then it's worthless to me.
 

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Why hasn't anyone talked about this (Maybe you all have and I missed it) but how this revelation affected the BCS National Championship??
The coaches found out Dec 26th and he found out the 6th...it clearly affected his play and possible the whole teams play.
Also, yeah its far reached, I know, but Kelly interviewing the Eagles. Was he trying to avoid this?

It didn't affect the championship four touchdowns worth.
 

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Perhaps was/is jealous of the attention he gleaned? Perhaps he thinks he didn't get enough credit?

Perhaps he's just sick of the lie and being a part of it?

Who knows. They also said "former teammate."

That means the player was a Senior.

Manti is no longer a Notre Dame football player. That would mean anyone he ever played with at ND, regardless of their class, is a former teammate.
 

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No, it's not dumb. It's smart. I dismiss EVERYTHING that says "anonymous sources." More often than not they are completely full of misinformation or entirely fabricated.

Mike Tirico talked today about all of the Jon Gruden reports from anonymous sources that were hilarious because they were clearly straight lies. Like one that said he was in Miami picking out a house WHILE GRUDEN WAS SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO HIM.

If there is no name attached then it's worthless to me.

Valid.
 

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Anyone else think we should hear Teo's side of this before we rush to any further judgement?
 

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No, it's not dumb. It's smart. I dismiss EVERYTHING that says "anonymous sources." More often than not they are completely full of misinformation or entirely fabricated.

Mike Tirico talked today about all of the Jon Gruden reports from anonymous sources that were hilarious because they were clearly straight lies. Like one that said he was in Miami picking out a house WHILE GRUDEN WAS SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO HIM.

If there is no name attached then it's worthless to me.

Just because some are false does not mean all are.

I know a few players. I know how weird/different they acted when Te'o's name was brought up. Look at some of the player's tweets.

There's a good possibility it's true.
 

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Manti is no longer a Notre Dame football player. That would mean anyone he ever played with at ND, regardless of their class, is a former teammate.

This right here. It's worded for maximum interpretation/speculation. In short, bullshit.
 

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Anyone else think we should hear Teo's side of this before we rush to any further judgement?

I think part of the "judgement" is coming from the fact that we want to hear Teo's side of the story, and thus far he's declined to give it to us.
 

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NEW DEVELOPMENT - Former ND teammate tells ESPN's Bob Holtzman that many players knew Lennay Kekua wasn't really Manti Te'o's girlfriend.

I took this as the former player knew she wasn't real and that Manti was being catfished.

But, Manti didn't want to see it as him being catfished.

It could be that or it could be that the former teammate thought Lennay was real, but that they didn't consider her Manti's girlfriend, but instead more of an online friend. That the girlfriend part was being exaggerated in the opion of the teammate.
 

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But why contact him on Dec. 6 and try and pretend the girlfriend is alive?

Swarbrick said the girl was still "in character" when she spoke to Manti and pretended to be "back alive" and he alluded to an entirely separate backstory about why "Lennay" lied to Manti about being dead.

Also I get that this Tuiasosopo guy is the "mastermind" behind all this but do we know who "fake Lennay" from the phone is?
 

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The girl who did the conversing needs to be found through Tuiasosopo. That's going to be critical in proving Manti actually was duped and had nothing to do with the hoax. Find the girl, solve the mystery...
 

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No, it's not dumb. It's smart. I dismiss EVERYTHING that says "anonymous sources." More often than not they are completely full of misinformation or entirely fabricated.

Mike Tirico talked today about all of the Jon Gruden reports from anonymous sources that were hilarious because they were clearly straight lies. Like one that said he was in Miami picking out a house WHILE GRUDEN WAS SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO HIM.

If there is no name attached then it's worthless to me.

i dont entirely agree with you. sometimes it's the truth and someone has to cover their ***. but right now, with this story, reports need names attached. this whole thing get to this point because the nobody checked the facts. unless a report states that they sat down in person with the source, it's impossible to believe. if you're going to harp on how silly it is to believe someone you only connect with online and on the phone, you can't build the foundation of stories on the same principle.

EDIT: grammar
 

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I find it so funny that so many on here are always bashing others for have "a source" and this is exactly what this case brings. Some peoples "sources" say they know the whole story. So why don't they come out and say their name? Because these "sources" are made up. The source is the reporters own head. So many on here are always against these "sources" why not now?
 
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