'13 PA ATH Alex Anzalone (Florida Early Enrollee)

[Bogtrotter07]

I'm not at liberty to discuss. #leavingcountry

He is really Brian Kelly, all this Keith Arnold stuff is a smokescreen.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Unfortunalty this kid and his parents lack integrity ! As a man in life you have two things your word and your balls! Apparently Alex has not been taught this lesson. I blame his parents for allowing his whole recruiting process to become such a joke. Oh well next man in!

For most of us that's three things.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheTurningPOint
Tom Hammond is gonzoooooo.

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This trumps Alex flaking out by 1000x.

What that Hamond is gonzo?

gon·zo (gnz)
adj. Slang
1. Using an exaggerated, highly subjective style, especially in journalism: "a hyperkinetic, gonzo version of Graham Greene" (New Yorker).
2. Bizarre; unconventional.

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[aubeirish]

We collectively never learn... Do not get attached to recruits until they sign fellas. These things always happen. The good news is, there is 1 month of recruiting left. We will find someone else.

 

[Kingbish01]

He's a whore for twitter followers....I unfollowed him...Take that AA

 

[GowerND11]

He's a whore for twitter followers....I unfollowed him...Take that AA

I got you good you ****er - Officer Farva - Super Troopers - YouTube

 

[chicago51]

The dead period ended last night any chance Diaco trys to talk to him or even show up and try to stop him before he goes to class?

Any confirmation that he showed up for class at UF today?

 

[Who'saWildManNow]

I'm personally excited for Kelly to re-up and see who they fill the spot with.

 

[Ironman8]

The dead period ended last night any chance Diaco trys to talk to him or even show up and try to stop him before he goes to class?

Any confirmation that he showed up for class at UF today?

No chance.

 

[kmoose]

Might be why their class is ranked 42nd though.

Or their low class ranking could be due to the absence of one Willie Lyles?

 

[Kingbish01]

Or their low class ranking could be due to the absence of one Willie Lyles?

Ya, that too.

 

[IrishLax]

Really tired of people comparing this to Gunner. Gunner dropped IU because his family member on the team really disliked the coach and told him to stay away.

Then he BRIEFLY committed to LSU without any fanfare or twitter BS and then a couple days later changed his mind.

Anzalone literally publicly and privately lied for months on end to his friends and the coaches. And when you look at his comments from the UA game in retrospect, this was pretty clearly already in the works. Anyone trying to defend that as a kid being "confused" or act like this is an acceptable way to conduct yourself in the business world (which is what this is) are pretty far off. I leave you with this:

@AlexAnzalone_24: I want to reaffirm my commitment to ND and shut down my recruitment completely with all other schools. God bless!

If that isn't a stone cold lie then I don't know what is. He clearly didn't shut down recruitment AT ALL.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Really tired of people comparing this to Gunner. Gunner dropped IU because his family member on the team really disliked the coach and told him to stay away.

Then he BRIEFLY committed to LSU without any fanfare or twitter BS and then a couple days later changed his mind.

Anzalone literally publicly and privately lied for months on end to his friends and the coaches. And when you look at his comments from the UA game in retrospect, this was pretty clearly already in the works. Anyone trying to defend that as a kid being "confused" or act like this is an acceptable way to conduct yourself in the business world (which is what this is) are pretty far off. I leave you with this:



If that isn't a stone cold lie then I don't know what is. He clearly didn't shut down recruitment AT ALL.

Thank you!

But that is not the end of the differences. Gunner's parents have always been in it for what is best for him, and they exhibit no signs of moral ambiguity, (as in you want to wash your had after you shake their hand.)

 

[chicago51]

I bet Will Muschamp committed a recruiting violation and talked during the dead period.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Really tired of people comparing this to Gunner. Gunner dropped IU because his family member on the team really disliked the coach and told him to stay away.

Then he BRIEFLY committed to LSU without any fanfare or twitter BS and then a couple days later changed his mind.

Anzalone literally publicly and privately lied for months on end to his friends and the coaches. And when you look at his comments from the UA game in retrospect, this was pretty clearly already in the works. Anyone trying to defend that as a kid being "confused" or act like this is an acceptable way to conduct yourself in the business world (which is what this is) are pretty far off. I leave you with this:



If that isn't a stone cold lie then I don't know what is. He clearly didn't shut down recruitment AT ALL.

I agree with this 100%. I'll admit that I get a little aggravated when we get de-commitments. But I quickly realize that they're kids and things can change. However, with that said, LAX is right. This kid blatantly lied to everyone. He threw a fit about the staff recruiting other LBs (even if it was for backup plan purposes). When the staff held up their end of the "deal," Alex spit in their face the day before enrolling at ND. That is why people are so upset, and rightfully so. That falls on Alex and his parental guidance. It should've never happened and I have zero respect for that kid and his family for the way they handled this recruitment. Best of luck to him at UF, but if we meet them in a game, I hope Greg Bryant runs his @$$ over.

 

[Ironman8]

I bet Will Muschamp committed a recruiting violation and talked during the dead period.

Read the NCAA handbook before posting this. Per NCAA.org, a dead period is as follows:

During a dead period a college coach may not have face-to-face contact with college-bound student-athletes or their parents, and may not watch student-athletes compete or visit their high schools. Coaches may write and telephone student-athletes or their parents during a dead period.

I believe it is limited to 1 phone call per week, but since it was not stated there I do not hold to it is 100% fact. Either way, Muschamp would have been allowed one phone call with Alex. Further:

(5) January 7-10, 2013, [except for (a) below]:

(a) Institutional staff members may have contact with a
prospective student-athlete who has been admitted for midyear
enrollment, provided the prospect has signed a National Letter
of Intent or other offer of admission and/or financial aid to
attend the institution and is required to be on campus to attend
institutional orientation sessions for all students:

Alex had been admitted for mid-year enrollment to Florida since his last visit there.

 

[Irish#1]

I didn't post anything on the Kiel board last year, I should have I agree with you. To address another post I am by no means a moralist! If you read my post I do not even come close to calling out Alex he's 17-18, I address his parents. I teach and coach at the high school level and it amazes me how much these parents vicariously live through their kids. I have a feeling this is what's happening here and I wish his PARENTS would have taught him to act with a little more integrity again he's 17 he knows no better!

Heck this is happening for about 15 years now starting with grade school kids in football, basketball, gymnastics, wrestling, tennis, etc..

 

[Emcee77]

I'm just over this guy. I won't wish him luck but I don't harbor any ill will either ... I just want to forget about him. We've got some outstanding linebackers in this class already and we are in on two more. Let's focus on getting those guys in and moving on.

 

[ThePiombino]

Alex had been admitted for mid-year enrollment to Florida since his last visit there.

Smells like a loophole that has probably been exploited by all parties more than we know.

 

[IrishLax]

Here's a counter-example for everyone:

Bennett Okotcha committed to ND. Late in the cycle, he got an offer from Oklahoma. When asked about it, he didn't spout a bunch of BS... he said he would think about it. Then he thought about it and switched his commit to the school he preferred.

NO ONE got upset about that. Everyone said "gosh, that's a bummer, good luck Bennett." It's the same as in business where if you get a job offer you're expect to give 2 weeks notice, etc.

In business it's not OK for your boss to find your resume on the printer, then you lie to him about it, then you make a public announcement to maybe the team you're managing that "don't believe any rumors I'm 100% not leaving before this project is complete," and then tell your boss "no, seriously, you don't have to worry about looking for a replacement project manager"...... all the while you have the full intention of leaving for another firm, then at the last possible second before a very important deadline you quit the company for one of their competitors after over the previous weekend hanging out and talking with all of your coworkers about how awesome it's going to ace is this project and promising all of them that you're DEFINITELY going to be turning in your portion of the deliverable.

If someone did this in the business world, people would go "What the eff is wrong with that guy? That's totally unacceptable. What a douche." And that's exactly what's happening here. In the professional world this is the kind of conduct that would haunt you for YEARS if you ever tried to move jobs again in the same realm.

Anyways... just want to make the distinction clear for those trying to equate this to Gunner or other recruits.

 

[Irish#1]

This kid is old enough to know better and even if he doesn't his parents are and should have guided him accordingly.

I would have loved to had him, but given his track record thru this courtship no one should be surprised. After he finally committed we put our blinders on to the possibility of him changing his mind.

Until signing day anything can happen.

 

[chicago51]

This kid is old enough to know better and even if he doesn't his parents are and should have guided him accordingly.

I would have loved to had him, but given his track record thru this courtship no one should be surprised. After he finally committed we put our blinders on to the possibility of him changing his mind.

Until signing day anything can happen.

We are still recruiting Hollins and Prevott. That are actually commits elsewhere. The kid did make a very strong statement that turned out to be a complete lie but we shouldn't be too mad about it. Guys decommitt.

 

[Luckylucci]

The difference between those two analogies is Prevot and Hollins have both publicly stated that they are visiting other schools and have interest. In Hollins case he went as far to say I am 50-50 between two schools. If anzalone would have said that we probably wouldn't care as much.

 

[anarin]

I never thought this kid was part of this class. He was the one that would flip flop. I wasnt even convinced he would stay after early enrollment.

It is what it is, i've moved on from him already.

 

[NDisme]

one thing i noticed was, i was watching the UA skills competition, which he won, and they interviewed him after and asked if he had anything to say about the NCG and he said Go Irish but it sounded very insincere and he said it quickly and almost whispered it very odd, i just didnt think much of it cuz i figured he was solid. It had nothing to do with kelly situatin

 

[Kingbish01]

Fighting Irish Talk‏@Irish__Gold

In other news Anzalone drops 30 spots in Espn 300

 

[Irish Insanity]

one thing i noticed was, i was watching the UA skills competition, which he won, and they interviewed him after and asked if he had anything to say about the NCG and he said Go Irish but it sounded very insincere and he said it quickly and almost whispered it very odd, i just didnt think much of it cuz i figured he was solid. It had nothing to do with kelly situatin

Thought the exact same after I watched it and had a discussion about it with a coworker who saw/felt the same with his reaction and comments.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>On Anzalone: We Reported Months Ago That Alex Was Never 100% Sold On The Irish. A Significant Part Of His Switch Is His Grandparents In FLA</p>— Notre Dame Recruits (@RightKindaGuy) <a href="https://twitter.com/RightKindaGuy/status/289787454020546560" data-datetime="2013-01-11T17:34:47+00:00">January 11, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[Bogtrotter07]

Don't blame a kid for what he learned from his parents.

And I have known lots that don't get out from under that kind of influence ever. It is my experience when you talk about bad parenting, that once the parent backs off, the child continues on taking over for the absent parent, searching to keep order in their world, as they understand it.

(PS. At minimum there is an overwhelming passive/agressive component, or covertness in this case. There probably is an intention to mislead, and well could be a controlling and manipulative authoritarian component as well. But we will never know.)

 

[beryirish]

I'm unsubscribing to this thread...annoyed...I'll leave it at that and keep my thoughts and yells in the house and off the thread.