Upshot for the Rest of the Class (2013 edition)

[BleedBlueGold]

Bower should come off the list whenever you get around to updating it.

 

[IrishLax]

Bower should come off the list whenever you get around to updating it.

Yup. Bunch of changes coming. Doing it Saturday.

 

[PANDFAN]

Yup. Bunch of changes coming. Doing it Saturday.

y wait until the weekend??...everyone knows irishenvy is devoted to work time--no italics

 

[IrishLax]

y wait until the weekend??...everyone knows irishenvy is devoted to work time--no italics

Haha normally that's the boat I'm in... killing time at the office on IE. But I've been ridiculously busy this week. Every client in the world apparently needs to get their projects done by the holidays...

 

[Irish YJ]

Taking a short form shot to see how close I can get to IrishLax's brain.

To make things simple, guessing our number will end up being 3-4.

Primary targets we lead for:
AQM 85%
Max 70%

Primary targets we have a good chance with:
Folston 50%

Primary targets we have an outside chance with:
Eddie V. 30%

The rest:
LJ Moore - best available fit on the board if we get AQM and Max
Duarte - second best available if we get AQM and Max
Hollins - best available if we fail to get AQM. Could also project to ILB.
Bower - second best available if we fail with AQM. Don't see it happening.
LaRue - Only if we strike out with all the above. Also, I just see him sticking with USC
Hooper - Only if we strike out.....
J. Williams - Only if we strike out.... Love this kid though.

Off the board:
Isaac
Clement

My prediction....
If the number is 3: AQM and Max, then either LJ or Folston
If the number is 4: AQM, Max, LJ, and then either Folston or Duarte.

 

[IrishLax]

Taking a short form shot to see how close I can get to IrishLax's brain.

To make things simple, guessing our number will end up being 3-4.

Primary targets we lead for:
AQM 85%
Max 70%

Close... I'd say 99% for AQM (the 1% being that I was lied to by a more than a half dozen people and/or all of them were independently misinformed... which is quite doubtful) and I'd say somewhere in the 70%-75% range for Redfield... there's always a solid chance that someone changes their mind for any given reason and Kiffin has a history of breaking contact rules. So there's a chance we miss out on him, but I don't think that will happen.

Primary targets we have a good chance with:
Folston 50%

Primary targets we have an outside chance with:
Eddie V. 30%

More like 70-75% for Folston now as well with how things stand right now. I'm going to bump him up a category based on what I've heard/read recently. Really think we're in incredibly strong position here. Things could always change between now and Jan. 4th with regards to the Florida schools but right now the only real threat is Oregon and if they outright lead it's been kept very hush hush.

The rest:
LJ Moore - best available fit on the board if we get AQM and Max
Duarte - second best available if we get AQM and Max
Hollins - best available if we fail to get AQM. Could also project to ILB.
Bower - second best available if we fail with AQM. Don't see it happening.
LaRue - Only if we strike out with all the above. Also, I just see him sticking with USC
Hooper - Only if we strike out.....
J. Williams - Only if we strike out.... Love this kid though.

Off the board:
Isaac
Clement

My prediction....
If the number is 3: AQM and Max, then either LJ or Folston
If the number is 4: AQM, Max, LJ, and then either Folston or Duarte.

Pretty close! Also dropping Bower and Hooper and adding a couple other names that have popped up this week.

 

[Irish YJ]

Pretty close! Also dropping Bower and Hooper and adding a couple other names that have popped up this week.

Your thoughts on LJ Moore? Everything I read says we're turning things up, and he's interested. Then I hear some of the insiders say he's a UCLA lock, and that he's only a plan D or E....

Also, what do you think our number truly will be. Just your gut feel.

 

[Redbar]

Close... I'd say 99% for AQM (the 1% being that I was lied to by a more than a half dozen people and/or all of them were independently misinformed... which is quite doubtful) and I'd say somewhere in the 70%-75% range for Redfield... there's always a solid chance that someone changes their mind for any given reason and Kiffin has a history of breaking contact rules. So there's a chance we miss out on him, but I don't think that will happen.



More like 70-75% for Folston now as well with how things stand right now. I'm going to bump him up a category based on what I've heard/read recently. Really think we're in incredibly strong position here. Things could always change between now and Jan. 4th with regards to the Florida schools but right now the only real threat is Oregon and if they outright lead it's been kept very hush hush.



Pretty close! Also dropping Bower and Hooper and adding a couple other names that have popped up this week.

I'm certainly no pro, but with everything I am hearing/reading most of which has already been mentioned on this site, I would feel comfortable moving Max up to the 90-95 percentile. Curious why you are not as confident. Are you just worried about Kiffin and Ed O, because Max seems a little too mature to be "sold" on something when he clearly has made his mind up already.

 

[Irish YJ]

I'm certainly no pro, but with everything I am hearing/reading most of which has already been mentioned on this site, I would feel comfortable moving Max up to the 90-95 percentile. Curious why you are not as confident. Are you just worried about Kiffin and Ed O, because Max seems a little too mature to be "sold" on something when he clearly has made his mind up already.

2 things about Max have worried me. One, he once pledged to USC, he had to have love for them in the first place, and has buds there, etc.. Second, he talks alot about emotions yet says he needs to make it a business decision. I think he's ND, but I also think he's capable of swinging back. After the latest Scout article, I'd put him at 90-95. He could also be thinking a business decision = early playing time, and early exit to NFL. I'm hoping he thinks it = outstanding education.

 

[Redbar]

2 things about Max have worried me. One, he once pledged to USC, he had to have love for them in the first place, and has buds there, etc.. Second, he talks alot about emotions yet says he needs to make it a business decision. I think he's ND, but I also think he's capable of swinging back. After the latest Scout article, I'd put him at 90-95. He could also be thinking a business decision = early playing time, and early exit to NFL. I'm hoping he thinks it = outstanding education.

Yeah. I agree with this. I read that article and I left feeling more confident, but I'd be lying if I said I felt sure.

 

[IrishLax]

I'm certainly no pro, but with everything I am hearing/reading most of which has already been mentioned on this site, I would feel comfortable moving Max up to the 90-95 percentile. Curious why you are not as confident. Are you just worried about Kiffin and Ed O, because Max seems a little too mature to be "sold" on something when he clearly has made his mind up already.

Well first of all this is why I HATE doing the "put a percentage on it" game. If you look back at my posts from days ago in the Redfield thread when things were still fresh off the OV to USC, I said:

25 days is an eternity in recruiting. Anything happen between now and when he picks at the all-star game. With that being said, as things stand right now, I have very minimal concern....

I have been very vehemently saying for a long time (back from when people were still saying Oregon and stuff like that) that we were the undisputed clear leader and I've stuck to that and then almost everyone came around to that point of view eventually after he cancelled the trip to Oregon.

BUT... you never, ever count out people like Orgeron and Kiffin late in the cycle... especially when the kid is on their home turf and there is a dead period coming up (hint: they break the rules). Three weeks might as well be a lifetime in recruiting and things can and do change regularly in the blink of an eye. So with basically anyone where we're the "leader" but they're a commit a give a solid chance that they don't end up at ND, and that especially holds true for players where Kiff & Co., Black Santa, Tosh, etc. are involved.

 

[IrishLax]

And clear your inbox, Redbar.

 

[TheTurningPoint]

UCLA has a better chance at landing Vanderdoes/LJ Moore than ND does. If UCLA can pull Willis...they will have a very nice class going. Not trying to be a downer or say that ND has no chance, but LJ Moore woulda been Irish by now, and both really have no reason to leave the west coast.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

UCLA has a better chance at landing Vanderdoes/LJ Moore than ND does. If UCLA can pull Willis...they will have a very nice class going. Not trying to be a downer or say that ND has no chance, but LJ Moore woulda been Irish by now, and both really have no reason to leave the west coast.

That's not a downer, at least not in my book. If ND can't have them, I'd love to see all three at UCLA. They can be a thorn in USC's side for the next 3-4 years.

 

[Martibhoy]

Thanks to you IrishLax, im beginning to get a grip on this whole recruiting thing! Whatever happens, its going to be some class!

 

[Irish YJ]

That's not a downer, at least not in my book. If ND can't have them, I'd love to see all three at UCLA. They can be a thorn in USC's side for the next 3-4 years.

This times 1000... Cal, Washington, etc.. doesn't matter to me. Just less for U$C. I however do not root against Stanford like I do USC when it comes to recruiting. But using that same logic, why have I hated Ohio St so much when they pick up a top recruit over UM? I hate Urban Liar, but hated OSU long before he got there....

 

[IrishLax]

Updated!

Let me know if you think I've forgotten anyone.

 

[Irish YJ]

Good stuff!

 

[IrishLax]

Updated with AQM news until his situation is resolved with more clarity.

 

[Irish YJ]

Alright LAX, need an update tomorrow evening . Curious to hear everyone's feedback post AA games.

 

[IrishLax]

Alright LAX, need an update tomorrow evening . Curious to hear everyone's feedback post AA games.

Getting around to it now.... have to work tonight at 1 AM so have 45 minutes to kill.

 

[Irish YJ]

Getting around to it now.... have to work tonight at 1 AM so have 45 minutes to kill.

Ouch (working at 1am).

 

[IrishLax]

Updated. There are a lot of names floating around that I didn't put on the list and that is mainly because I think our spots are so limited that it's one-way interest. I expect us to take one more rush OLB type and maybe one more elite best available.

Other names might continue to pop up and as visits/updates happen after the 'ship I will update this thread.

 

[johnnykillz]

I'm reserving hope for Hutchings personally.

And Eddie V.

 

[Irish YJ]

Thanks Lax

 

[IrishLax]

Updated. Wanted to wait until the BK stuff settled down in the very small off chance that sh*t hit the fan. Removed some names that I think have fallen off the radar and updated everyone else.

As things stand right now the OVs on the weekend of the 25th will basically decide whether this class finishes with a whimper or a bang. There are 4-5 realistic prospects for ~2 spots and they are all visiting that weekend. I'm hopeful for Torrodney + Eddie.

 

[Walter White]

Updated. Wanted to wait until the BK stuff settled down in the very small off chance that sh*t hit the fan. Removed some names that I think have fallen off the radar and updated everyone else.

As things stand right now the OVs on the weekend of the 25th will basically decide whether this class finishes with a whimper or a bang. There are 4-5 realistic prospects for ~2 spots and they are all visiting that weekend. I'm hopeful for Torrodney + Eddie.

Great work Lax!

Wasn't there some talk about the DE Fitts recently?

 

[Irish Man3]

Great work Lax!

Wasn't there some talk about the DE Fitts recently?

Only by hopeful fans.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Who all is visiting this weekend? Thread?

 

[Domina Nostra]

Who all is visiting this weekend? Thread?

I think Biven, Rochelle, and his teammate and Andrew Williams.

Great work Lax!

Wasn't there some talk about the DE Fitts recently?

ISD has him on their front page. We must be trying to get involved. I'd take him in a heartbeat after Vanderdoes.