Nov 10 | at Boston College

[Irish YJ]

IMO.... BK very conservative today. Needed style points. I just don't get it.

 

[NDFANnSouthWest]

I hope DD is ok.

 

[GreenSox04]

the ONE time I bet the spread...

you're not alone brother

 

[IrishFan4L]

Very ugly... I think the offense is getting worse. A win is a win but its damn ugly!

 

[pkt77242]

Don't matter, De'Anthony Thomas is IMO more dangerous.

Because you are crazy. Thomas may be more dangerous on one play but he is not a workhorse like Barner.

 

[RallySonsOfND]

Guys, the Human voters were never going to start voting us ahead of Oregon or KState. Only thing that matters is winning.

 

[CarrollVermin]

Daniels didn't come back in either, did he?

Nope...never saw him return either.

 

[woolybug25]

IMO.... BK very conservative today. Needed style points. I just don't get it.

I think he thinks that because of corrupt coaches and biased media, we won't be getting into the NCG unless someone loses. If that is the case, then why go crazy with play calls? We can win without showing much or risking anything (especially injuries).

Just take care of business in the most likely direct way of winning. That's what we did today and I expect to do the same next week. Then we open it up against USC.

That's how I played it in my head, at least.

 

[Rocky2820]

IMO.... BK very conservative today. Needed style points. I just don't get it.

Me neither. I thought BK was just engaging in coach speak up to this point regarding the BCS. But tonight's play calling makes me wonder if he's simply willing to play things out and let the chips fall where they may.

 

[GreenSox04]

W is a W..only thing to do now is stream oregon cal and hope lightning strikes twice..

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

I think he thinks that because of corrupt coaches and biased media, we won't be getting into the NCG unless someone loses. If that is the case, then why go crazy with play calls? We can win without showing much or risking anything (especially injuries).

Just take care of business in the most likely direct way of winning. That's what we did today and I expect to do the same next week. Then we open it up against USC.

That's how I played it in my head, at least.

But why do we eat so much damn clock!!!! He even said other the day that that we not getting off enough plays. We should have had at least 3 more possessions.

 

[ACamp1900]

Musberger - "Steven Tuitt." Please retire Brent

Notre Dame has also started 10-0 'only' eight times..... Really??

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

Guys, the Human voters were never going to start voting us ahead of Oregon or KState. Only thing that matters is winning.

Correct

 

[SaltyND24]

I didn't see Nix throw a punch...was that just me?! Anyways, style points matter now more than anything at this point...we got put our foot on teams' throats!!

 

[woolybug25]

But why do we eat so much damn clock!!!! He even said other the day that that we not getting off enough plays. We should have had at least 3 more possessions.

As I have said before, "getting more plays" is coach-speak for "winning time of possession". Spread nerds will try to say ToP doesn't matter, but numbers don't lie... ToP and Amount of Plays are not mutually exclusive.

Both are recipes for success and if you do one, you are probably doing the other.


If we increased our ToP from our already pretty good number, then we would see those big scoreboards. But we aren't. Our defense is staying on the field too long and we aren't running enough plays on offense to keep games uptempo.

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

Very ugly... I think the offense is getting worse. A win is a win but its damn ugly!

Really? They converted their first 12 3rd downs. Thats pretty good.

 

[irishff1014]

Really? They converted their first 12 3rd downs. Thats pretty good.

That just means they were good on third down.

 

[RallySonsOfND]

Notre Dame has also started 10-0 'only' eight times..... Really??

Well back in the good ol' days, they didn't even play 10 games in a season.

 

[Rocky2820]

I didn't see Nix throw a punch...was that just me?! Anyways, style points matter now more than anything at this point...we got put our foot on teams' throats!!

No, I saw him push, but not punch. And I agree about style points - margin of victory does matter. It's probbaly not realistic at this point for us to pass Oregon, but KSU is more realistic. That's what makes tonight's "just win" mentality frustrating.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

As I have said before, "getting more plays" is coach-speak for "winning time of possession". Spread nerds will try to say ToP doesn't matter, but numbers don't lie... ToP and Amount of Plays are not mutually exclusive.

Both are recipes for success and if you do one, you are probably doing the other.


If we increased our ToP from our already pretty good number, then we would see those big scoreboards. But we aren't. Our defense is staying on the field too long and we aren't running enough plays on offense to keep games uptempo.

He said TOP was good, but we weren't running enough plays for how long we were holding it. Meaning we are running too much off the play clock on every play.

 

[woolybug25]

That just means they were good on third down.

I agree with PSUhater, our offense is improving. It's not good yet, but it's better than it was at the beginning of the season for sure.

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

I agree with PSUhater, our offense is improving. It's not good yet, but it's better than it was at the beginning of the season for sure.

Thank you sir.

 

[woolybug25]

He said TOP was good, but we weren't running enough plays for how long we were holding it. Meaning we are running too much off the play clock on every play.

I see, I misunderstood you. That is a problem, but that has little to do with executing after the snap. That is all about us not getting plays in or not making line adjustments quick enough. This is clear when we get the idiotic TO's (this really bugs me) because our offense isn't on the same page.

I totally agree with the sentiment that we aren't doing a good job with getting plays going or keeping good tempo with the offense. I see ToP as two fold; 1) the actual time we possess the ball on offense and 2) tempo: i.e. amount of plays.

We are doing good with #1, but awful with #2.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

I see, I misunderstood you. That is a problem, but that has little to do with executing after the snap. That is all about us not getting plays in or not making line adjustments quick enough. This is clear when we get the idiotic TO's (this really bugs me) because our offense isn't on the same page.

I totally agree with the sentiment that we aren't doing a good job with getting plays going or keeping good tempo with the offense. I see ToP as two fold; 1) the actual time we possess the ball on offense and 2) tempo: i.e. amount of plays.

We are doing good with #1, but awful with #2.

Yes that was my exact point too.

 

[BGIF]

Final ND 21 BC 6

Final ND 21 BC 6

ND BC

Total Net Yards 377 305
Total Plays 67 73
Average Gain 5.6 4.2
Net Yards Rushing 166 60
Rushes 39 24
Avg. Per Rush 4.3 2.5
Net Yards Passing 211 245
Comp.-Att. 17-25 26-42
Yards Per Pass 8.4 5.4
Sacked-Yards Lost 0-0 3-0
Had Intercepted 0 1
Touchdowns 3 0
Rushing 1 0
Passing 2 0
Other 0 0
Extra Points 3-3 0-0
Kicking 3-3 0-0
Field Goals 0-0 2-2
Safeties 0 0
Punts-Average 3-36.3 2-37.0
Return Yards 78 0
Punts-Returns 0-0 0-0
Kickoffs-Returns 3-78 0-0
Int.-Returns 0-0 0-0
Penalties-Yards 16-120 12-60
Fumbles-Lost 2-2 1-1


1st Downs 21 20
3rd down efficiency 11-14 8-15
4th down efficiency 0-0 0-2
Possession 32:29 27:31

 

[BGIF]

I see, I misunderstood you. That is a problem, but that has little to do with executing after the snap. That is all about us not getting plays in or not making line adjustments quick enough. This is clear when we get the idiotic TO's (this really bugs me) because our offense isn't on the same page.

I totally agree with the sentiment that we aren't doing a good job with getting plays going or keeping good tempo with the offense. I see ToP as two fold; 1) the actual time we possess the ball on offense and 2) tempo: i.e. amount of plays.

We are doing good with #1, but awful with #2.

In the first half we were frequently getting plays off with 9 or 10 seconds still on the play clock. Not so in the second half.

Did we suddenly develop a communication problem, was Kelly giving Golson more leeway at the LOS, or was the clock run down on purpose to burn off time?

 

[BGIF]

Personal Game Stats

Personal Game Stats

ND

Passing
CP/AT YDS TD INT
E. Golson 16/24 201 2 0
T. Rees 1/1 9 0 0

Rushing
ATT YDS TD LG
T. Riddick 18 104 0 16
E. Golson 11 39 1 10
C. Wood 6 33 0 8
G. Atkinson 4 9 0 7

Receiving
REC YDS TD LG
T. Eifert 6 67 0 20
T. Riddick 4 56 0 23
T. Jones 3 39 0 20
D. Daniels 2 22 0 13
J. Goodman 1 18 1 18
T. Niklas 1 7 1 7


BC

Passing
CP/AT YDS TD INT
C. Rettig 27/43 247 0 1

Rushing
ATT YDS TD LG
R. Finch 7 40 0 20
A. Amidon 1 14 0 14
D. Dudeck 4 9 0 4
B. Swigert 1 9 0 9
J. Coleman 1 -4 0 0
C. Rettig 8 -14 0 11

Receiving
REC YDS TD LG
A. Amidon 6 84 0 22
S. Evans 4 47 0 28
D. Dudeck 4 40 0 19
R. Finch 5 25 0 12
B. Swigert 3 23 0 10
C. Pantale 3 14 0 7
M. Naples 1 9 0 9
J. Coleman 1 5 0 5

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

ND

Passing
CP/AT YDS TD INT
E. Golson 16/24 201 2 0
T. Rees 1/1 9 0 0

Rushing
ATT YDS TD LG
T. Riddick 18 104 0 16
E. Golson 11 39 1 10
C. Wood 6 33 0 8
G. Atkinson 4 9 0 7

Receiving
REC YDS TD LG
T. Eifert 6 67 0 20
T. Riddick 4 56 0 23
T. Jones 3 39 0 20
D. Daniels 2 22 0 13
J. Goodman 1 18 1 18
T. Niklas 1 7 1 7


BC

Passing
CP/AT YDS TD INT
C. Rettig 27/43 247 0 1

Rushing
ATT YDS TD LG
R. Finch 7 40 0 20
A. Amidon 1 14 0 14
D. Dudeck 4 9 0 4
B. Swigert 1 9 0 9
J. Coleman 1 -4 0 0
C. Rettig 8 -14 0 11

Receiving
REC YDS TD LG
A. Amidon 6 84 0 22
S. Evans 4 47 0 28
D. Dudeck 4 40 0 19
R. Finch 5 25 0 12
B. Swigert 3 23 0 10
C. Pantale 3 14 0 7
M. Naples 1 9 0 9
J. Coleman 1 5 0 5

Seemed like they ran for a lot more yards than they did.

 

[BGIF]

Seemed like they ran for a lot more yards than they did.

It seemed that way to me, too. Likewise I would have though they had a lot more yards of Total Offense. They started out like gangbusters in the first Q. Then Diaco adjusted. After we went up 21-3 it seemed like they had the ball a lot longer but they only had it for 1 minute more than ND in the second half.

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

It seemed that way to me, too. Likewise I would have though they had a lot more yards of Total Offense. They started out like gangbusters in the first Q. Then Diaco adjusted. After we went up 21-3 it seemed like they had the ball a lot longer but they only had it for 1 minute more than ND in the second half.

Same here.