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Theo Riddick or Cierre Wood?
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NDHoosier101
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To answer the OP I"d take Cierre Wood, the guy is extremely elusive. One thing that frustrates me about both of them though is (and maybe it's just me) they cut back too much. Yes, once a game or so it turns into a 60 yard run, but most times if they just followed the flow of the run and their blockers they could get 5 or 6 yards, instead they end up with one or two because they cut back.
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Cierre barely
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Gotta agree with what was already said: Cierre is the better runner, Theo is the better athlete. Plus Theo has come up with some huge plays/catches in close games: Big time overtime catch against Stanford, another in overtime against Pitt, and some big runs to get the first down against BYU and others.
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Theo is reminding me a lot of Armando Allen this year..a jack of all trades but not really a master of any one but capable of being that Swiss Army Knife of the offense. Wish we had a Robert Hughes type on the roster just to make those goal line situations a little more stacked in ND's favour.
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If I am reading that list right, I didn't see Cierre on there for 2013 but at #5 for 2014. Seems to indicate he'll be back for his 5th year in all likelihood.
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Theo to get drafted, Wood not projected to.
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Cierre Wood and its not close. Theo is fantastic, a great asset on offense and key piece to the success of this team. But Cierre is the best running back. While he does not have the receiver experience that Theo has, he is incredibly underrated as a pass catcher (he caught a lot of balls last year).
Give Cierre 20 -25 carries a game.
Give Cierre 20 -25 carries a game.
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Don't mean to derail this thread, but I was surprised to see Bennett Jackson projected to be a 2nd or 3rd rd pick after this year. Crazy...but I wonder if he would come back if he were really projected that high after the year???
Anyways, to get back on topic...I think Cierre has better skills, but Theo is a much, much tougher runner. If it's a close decision (as this one is), I'll take the tougher guy over the more talented guy any day of the week.
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koonja
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Paging Buster Bluth. Please tell me again how 'Cierre is better than Theo and it's not even close'. I need to be reminded.
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koonja
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Theo has over 12X as many receptions, more yards, more touchdowns, less fumbles. I'll take Theo all day. I understand that some people think Cierre is a better runner, but nothing more. Overall, Theo's better.
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I have been surprised and impressed by Theo's tough running, but I still think Wood is the best overall pure RB. I hope that Wood realizes he need to return next year, lack of playing time has definitely hurt his draft status. If I had to pick and generalize, I'd say Wood needs at least 15 touches a game, Theo 10, and Atkinson a handful.
Wood was the better pure RB last year hands down. This year I'm not sure. Riddick is the better all around back. He does run tough. He also seems to hit the hole or lack of a hole with conviction.
I have no idea if it's Wood's head or Kelly's head but the situation isn't copasetic.
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Yes, but Theo didn't even play RB last year. I don't know if that helps my argument, just pointing out that BGIF may in fact NOT be an all knowing robot.
I say that will all due respect, my good man.
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PraetorianND
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I liked Theo's catch across the middle that they reviewed and determined was a catch. Kid is versatile.
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Not to be a dick, but you'd have to be pretty ignorant to take Riddick over Wood when that statement was made. I am overjoyed that Riddick has turned it up over the last few weeks, but outside of BYU and Boston College he hasn't been superb.
I stand by my statement for the most part. Wood just isn't getting the touches, but when he does he--on average--is considerably better than Riddick. Wood is averaging 6.3 ypc, Riddick is at 4.5 ypc. A 4.5ypc is worse than any of Wood's seasons. Wood's worst game, Pittsburgh, had a 5.4 average. Seven of Riddick's ten games were less than that.
That's not say that Riddick isn't running with power these days. He used to get arm tackled constantly, whereas Wood would stride through them. Now Riddick has stopped trying to stride through tackles and is putting his shoulder down. It's been a huge positive for him.
I'm sorry I'd take Wood overall before Riddick. But again Riddick has improved greatly over the last month.
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Not to be a dick, but you'd have to be pretty ignorant to take Riddick over Wood when that statement was made. I am overjoyed that Riddick has turned it up over the last few weeks, but outside of BYU and Boston College he hasn't been superb.
I stand by my statement for the most part. Wood just isn't getting the touches, but when he does he--on average--is considerably better than Riddick. Wood is averaging 6.3 ypc, Riddick is at 4.5 ypc. A 4.5ypc is worse than any of Wood's seasons. Wood's worst game, Pittsburgh, had a 5.4 average. Seven of Riddick's ten games were less than that.
That's not say that Riddick isn't running with power these days. He used to get arm tackled constantly, whereas Wood would stride through them. Now Riddick has stopped trying to stride through tackles and is putting his shoulder down. It's been a huge positive for him.
I'm sorry I'd take Wood overall before Riddick. But again Riddick has improved greatly over the last month.
I think it's pretty close. It doesn't matter to me whether Theo or CW gets the rock because i am equally confident both will make something happen.
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Well they have different strengths. That is apparent. Riddick is great when you want to motion out from RB to a slot and run a route, or basically pass anything but a screen out of the backfield. Wood is just better as a running back.
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koonja
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I have no problem with you saying Cierre>Theo, Buster. But it is very close.
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PraetorianND
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^^ This.
I think of it in terms of confidence. If CW or Theo is in the backfield I feel the same way. Both are big plays waiting to happen. Both get it done. Neither really stands out above the other.
Yes, but Theo didn't even play RB last year. I don't know if that helps my argument, just pointing out that BGIF may in fact NOT be an all knowing robot.
I appreciate that but it's immaterial. Whether Riddick played or not Wood was still the better RB LAST YEAR, wasn't he. He rushed for over 1,100 yds.
Similarly, Rees was the better QB LAST YEAR.
But that WAS, last year. However, I suspect many people consider Wood's career achievements when evaluating which one is better this year.
"But he's a thousand yard rusher." No he isn't, not this year.
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They have a problem holding on to the in the last 2 games.
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Sorry, there is no debate. Riddick is not only the better back this year....but the better football player.
Wood, while nobody denies his talent, can't get on the field. If he was better than Theo, and you guys always talk about how Kelly knows what he's doing...then Wood would be on the field a whole lot more.
Team Theo. 4 eva.
Wood, while nobody denies his talent, can't get on the field. If he was better than Theo, and you guys always talk about how Kelly knows what he's doing...then Wood would be on the field a whole lot more.
Team Theo. 4 eva.
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So the better running back is suppose to average less than two yards per carry than the other? Sorry, but Cierre is the better running back. He is so far in the dog house, for whatever reason, that he can't get the carries he needs.
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koonja
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So YPC determines who's best? Then GAIII > Wood and Riddick.
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Sure...YPC tells you who the better back is.
And if Cierre didn't have that big run against OU, you wouldn't even have an argument.
Riddick leads in Yards, rushing TD's, and carries.....You tell me who's better.
I'm supposed to take the "eye test" of IE members over Brian Kelly....Sure fellas.
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Not to mention he has 25 receptions to Cierre's 2.
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Technically, TJ jones is the best RB on the team...8 yards a carry!
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