Who is Likely Next (2013)

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Mark my words. Kiel will be the backup QB next year and will play during the season... and play well.

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Mark my words. Kiel will be the backup QB next year and will play during the season... and play well.

I agree that he will see the field, and that he'll play well. Usually I don't like the whole "this guy is gonna transfer" line of discussion, but I do think its fair to ask whether he will be ok with that for three years. One year I could see, but what if Golson progresses and stays in front of Gunner. Hate to put the cart before the horse and everything, but since we're talking about it.....
 

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Golson and Kiel split reps. Each throw for 3,500 yards and around 30 TDs. Bruce Heggie carries the load in the ground game, toting the rock 546 times for 17,890 yards and 112 TDs. During halftime of the Stanford game, he ends world hunger, finds the cure for cancer, and effectively neutralizes any threat of violence on a global scale. ND goes 13-0 en route to a national title.
 

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Golson and Kiel split reps. Each throw for 3,500 yards and around 30 TDs. Bruce Heggie carries the load in the ground game, toting the rock 546 times for 17,890 yards and 112 TDs. During halftime of the Stanford game, he ends world hunger, finds the cure for cancer, and effectively neutralizes any threat of violence on a global scale. ND goes 13-0 en route to a national title.

Don't you put that evil on my Gunner.... d@mn you....


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While it's good to have a wealth of talent at your disposal, it just seems like a certainty that one of these guys transfers. Rees and Hendrix are pretty well out of the equation. With Kiel, Golson, and Zaire having all been fairly high ranked prospects in their own rights, one would think they'd all want their opportunity to lead a team for more than 1 year. How it eventually works out? Who knows.
 

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A little outside of the topic, but if Golson continues to progress and Kiel stays even remotely close to where you have him on this list he'll most likely transfer. Who'd blame him? With Zaire coming in, who's basically just Golson 2.0, I'm not sure how there'll be room/playing time for all of these guys, which inherently translates to transfers.

My fault, should have made this more clear. That wasn't really intended to be a depth chart for next year, just a list of players at each position. I was doing it mostly off the top of my head and found it easiest to go by class, oldest first. I agree though, I don't see Gunner sticking around to be a 4th string QB
 

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My fault, should have made this more clear. That wasn't really intended to be a depth chart for next year, just a list of players at each position. I was doing it mostly off the top of my head and found it easiest to go by class, oldest first. I agree though, I don't see Gunner sticking around to be a 4th string QB

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So here's where we're at right now, with the current class of recruits included. If we assume Slaughter, C. Wood, Martin, Watt, Fox, Calabrese all come back next year, and that no current commits decommit (as I did in the chart above), we would be at 83 scholarships in 2013, meaning 2 more available for this year's recruiting class. It sounds like AQM is pretty much a done deal for us, so that bumps us to 84 - 1 spot left. The general consensus seems to be that we have very legit shots at Luke, Redfield, Moore, and Alexander, with some feeling that we are trending up for Treadwell as well. Clearly, we can't take all of these guys (nor will all want to come). My personal opinion is that, in a perfect world, Fox comes back for a 5th year, Carlo does not, and we are lucky enough to add Redfield and Alexander to this recruiting class (along with AQM). What do you guys think?

Slaughter has used up his eligibility, so that opens up one more spot. Agree on letting Carlo go and keeping Fox.

That gives us 2 open spots.

And Kiel should pass up some ppl on the depth chart, but no big impact. IMO 2014 will be the most interesting.
 

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So here's where we're at right now, with the current class of recruits included. If we assume Slaughter, C. Wood, Martin, Watt, Fox, Calabrese all come back next year, and that no current commits decommit (as I did in the chart above), we would be at 83 scholarships in 2013, meaning 2 more available for this year's recruiting class. It sounds like AQM is pretty much a done deal for us, so that bumps us to 84 - 1 spot left. The general consensus seems to be that we have very legit shots at Luke, Redfield, Moore, and Alexander, with some feeling that we are trending up for Treadwell as well. Clearly, we can't take all of these guys (nor will all want to come). My personal opinion is that, in a perfect world, Fox comes back for a 5th year, Carlo does not, and we are lucky enough to add Redfield and Alexander to this recruiting class (along with AQM). What do you guys think?

Besides the ones that everyone else has mentioned you also forgot Brindza and the long snapper Scott Daly. Overall good job though.
 

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Updated it with the mistakes you guys have pointed out from the first round. Still leaves us with 83 scholarships taken for next year/ 2 available. Also want to point out that many of the positions are just guesses, especially for the incoming WRs, OL, and LBs and many of the young safeties.
 

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Updated it with the mistakes you guys have pointed out from the first round. Still leaves us with 83 scholarships taken for next year/ 2 available. Also want to point out that many of the positions are just guesses, especially for the incoming WRs, OL, and LBs and many of the young safeties.

Nice depth chart. I think the following players are gone for sure next year:

* Slaughter - unlikely to get ncaa 'approval' for 6th year/medical hardship.
* Wood - ND degree, and NFL pedigree. He has no reason to come back. He has a mid round projection right now.

Martin & Watt are also possibilities.

+ Calabrese gets inv. back for sure. He's a big part of the team's 2 deep.
+ With 5 scholarship quarterbacks on the roster, expect some volatility there as well. Maybe a transfer, retirement, defect, position switch, who knows?

I think ND has 3 scholarships left for new recruits in this class and have the wiggle room to make that number even greater if they need to.
 

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Updated it with the mistakes you guys have pointed out from the first round. Still leaves us with 83 scholarships taken for next year/ 2 available. Also want to point out that many of the positions are just guesses, especially for the incoming WRs, OL, and LBs and many of the young safeties.

Two things strike me:
1: Our depth at the outside linebacker positions is looking fairly ridiculous. (No wonder Mattingly's maybe thinking about jumping ship. Look at who's ahead of him.)
2: Not a lot of dead weight on that roster. You can count on one hand the guys who are a stretch to ever be major contributors.

On scholarships. FWIW, I still think this stuff all works itself out. We'll have one or two who decommit/transfers/flunk out. It happens every year. Often out of the blue.
 

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Nice depth chart. I think the following players are gone for sure next year:

* Slaughter - unlikely to get ncaa 'approval' for 6th year/medical hardship.
* Wood - ND degree, and NFL pedigree. He has no reason to come back. He has a mid round projection right now.

Martin & Watt are also possibilities.

+ Calabrese gets inv. back for sure. He's a big part of the team's 2 deep.

+ With 5 scholarship quarterbacks on the roster, expect some volatility there as well. Maybe a transfer, retirement, defect, position switch, who knows?

I think ND has 3 scholarships left for new recruits in this class and have the wiggle room to make that number even greater if they need to.

I'd take Fox over Calabrese personally.
 

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Updated it with the mistakes you guys have pointed out from the first round. Still leaves us with 83 scholarships taken for next year/ 2 available. Also want to point out that many of the positions are just guesses, especially for the incoming WRs, OL, and LBs and many of the young safeties.

I thought i heard Brindza would punt next year?
 

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All depends on the situation next year...

It will be interesting. With him being a senior and having so much experience, I have a hard time seeing Kelly not going with Tommy in a backup role where you need someone to step up in a bad situation. His knowledge of the offense will be such that he would be the guy who goes in there and is so comfortable and gives you the best chance to win. This is Notre Dame. Every game needs to be won. Kelly is not going to put unknown entities in there unless Gunner is really spectacular. My humble opinion.
 
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It will be interesting. With him being a senior and having so much experience, I have a hard time seeing Kelly not going with Tommy in a backup role where you need someone to step up in a bad situation. His knowledge of the offense will be such that he would be the guy who goes in there and is so comfortable and gives you the best chance to win. This is Notre Dame. Every game needs to be won. Kelly is not going to put unknown entities in there unless Gunner is really spectacular. My humble opinion.

That is one situation where I see him coming in lol

Other than that though idk
 

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Updated it with the mistakes you guys have pointed out from the first round. Still leaves us with 83 scholarships taken for next year/ 2 available. Also want to point out that many of the positions are just guesses, especially for the incoming WRs, OL, and LBs and many of the young safeties.

Nice depth chart. To the extent it might help you, here's mine.

A few nits:
  • Fuller probably starts his career at Z WR.
  • I know they seem too tall to be interior linemen, but some of those guys you have listed at OT will be moving to OG.
  • As others have stated, Brindza will probably be punting for us next year.
  • So many talented RBs, and not enough touches to go around. Carlisle may see more time at Z WR next season if he can't break into the RB rotation.
  • DB is where our projections differ the most. Won't bother reiterating what my depth chart already shows. Most notably, I expect Shumate to move back to SS sooner than later, and if any moves to CB from S, it'll be Hardy.
  • If both Calabrese and Fox come back, Calabrese probably moves to MILB and "quarterbacks" the front-7. If the staff thinks Grace is ready for that, there's little reason to bring Calabrese back.
  • Anzalone probably starts his career at WILB, and given our lack of depth inside, moving Rabasa to WILB probably makes sense as well.
  • Deeb strikes me as a MILB, and Randolph as a ROLB.
 

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That is one situation where I see him coming in lol

Other than that though idk

Hehe. Obviously I do not want him to be the starter, nor do I see it happening. Golson is going to start. That said, he is the logical no 2 in my book.
 

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If we don't land another CB, I think Fuller ends up at CB. I also think Kinlaw ends up at CB as well. I think Butler could end up at S as well.
 

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If we don't land ANY other CB something went horribly wrong.
 
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