With the Presidential election coming up...

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So reading through some of these political threads it looks like some of you guys/gals have some pretty good arguments for one side or the other.

Are there any books you guys/gals recommend that states clearly the ideals are?
(not necessarily looking for Republican/Democratic party platform)

Thanks
 
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I actually just read it a few months ago... I'm looking mainly for republican ideals.

oh **** 4 posts while I was writing this

Alright reps coming your way... Eat the Rich seems interesting.
 
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Read Thomas Sowell. The Vision of the Anointed especially. Read Henry Hazlitt Economics in One Lesson. Read The Federalist Papers if you haven't and then go back and check out some Aristotle, especially when he talks about pursuing happiness and virtue. Those are just some.
 

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Too much trouble. You should be like most Americans and pick one of two choices. Too wit:
1) Ignore the process, but maintain your right to bitch if you don't like the outcome.
2) Pick one issue (and only one issue) and be completely inflexible.

The second choice is much better because it removes any temptation to think, while at the same time you appear involved and principled.
 

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So reading through some of these political threads it looks like some of you guys/gals have some pretty good arguments for one side or the other.

Are there any books you guys/gals recommend that states clearly the ideals are?
(not necessarily looking for Republican/Democratic party platform)

Thanks

Anything with "Conflation" in the title...
 

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And for all my pessimist/ it's all going down the $hitter/ doom and gloom readers...

"America Alone" by Mark Steyn. But it's funny as hell with his humor and sarcasm
 

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Pursuit of Happiness and Good Gov't by Charles Murray is a classic.

You never realized how disatrous certain policies are -- such as lowering the national speed limit to 55 -- until he dissects them.
 
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Yup. Whether you disagree with communism or not or even just Marxist ideals, it truly is a great piece to read.

I agreee 100% with early Karl Marx, and even Marx said that capitalism produces an awesome amount of wealth and prosperity, but I think he ultimately had an incomplete equation about capitalism. He was close though, and shockingly accurate with a lot of predictions. A lot of people consider Marx to be incorrigible, I find him fascinating.
 

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Idealism?? No one REALLY wants idealism. They want some form of what they perceive as pragmatism-in-their-own-interest.

For actual idealism: "Sermon on the Mount" and "Beatitudes" and "Parable of the Good Samaritan", author Jesus Christ, killed for Idealism, first century AD.

If you have steeled yourself with the above, and are warm and deep with your spirituality, you might try a perfectly horribly-written book called Ecotopia by Ernest Callenbach --- select those parts which you judge harmonious with the Gospel references. Dump the trivia.

Now buttressed by not only deep authentic morality, but also a rough blueprint for a human-level society based on sustainable principles, you might screw up your courage and read a really challenging book, Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert Heinlein, again keeping what your soul is large enough to contain, and tossing the rest.

With these threatening excursions into Idealism consumed and synthesized in your own systemic way [always with an eye on the two great commandments of Love], you might then read the Republican and Democratic platforms. You will then discover that you were born on the wrong planet.
 

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John Rawls is always a fascinating read. A Theory of Justice is his main work but it's really long and is a bit of a grind. I recommend Justice as Fairness: A Restatement as a great summary of his political philosophy.
 

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A couple books I read in high school I really enjoyed were 1984 and the Handmaid's Tale.

I am sure you at least have an idea of what goes on in 1984, but if you have never read the Handmaid's Tale it really is an interesting read.

Pretty much Islamic Extremists kill our whole Congress and the military declares marshall law and eventually the United States becomes a new country(forget what it was called in the book) that is essentially a theocracy of extreme Christianity and pretty much how there is civil war between religions.

It's not so much based on a political ideal, but can show the danger of religious extremism from any faith(I am Catholic FWIW so don't accuse me of hating).
 

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Not Republican idealism...but recommended background material

1984
Animal Farm
Atlas Shrugged
Mein Kampf
Communist Manifesto
Rise & Fall of the Third Reich
Winston Churchill bio
Read about the economic theories of Keynes & Adam Smith (throw in a Milton Friedman)
political philosophies of Burke and Locke
Michael Crichton books: State of Fear, Next, Jurassic Park (gotta love Chaos theory)

I am a big believer in reading about different political/economic philosophies. You will see that those that implement their thinking always do it wrong and there has never been pure implementation of any of these on a large scale.


Always good additions machiavelli & nietzsche
 
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The constitution or....

How to speak to a liberal -- if you must ... By Coulter
 

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Interesting talk on The Communist Manifesto.

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If you want to "learn" Marxism, forget the Communist Manifesto and read Das Kapital. The Manifesto is like a pamphlet of rhetoric published by Marx's rich friend Engels. It's a purely political document.
 

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My rather conservative brother always suggest I read Atlas Shrugged if I want to be successful.
 

connor_in

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My rather conservative brother always suggest I read Atlas Shrugged if I want to be successful.

I had never read it until just recently when people were ripping on Paul Ryan for being a fan. I knew it was about objectivism and understood the basic tennents of the philosophy. So when it came up, I thought I would give it a try (listened to an abridged audio book of it 11 hrs vs 60+ hrs). To me, the philosophy of the "heroes" of the book was interesting but a bit too much for me. However, what the book's government and those who go along to get along with it, their actions and decrees its scary if you follow recent history. Its wild to think that the book was published in 1957, pre- Great Society and political correctness and participation trophies.
 
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