'10 IL QB Tommy Rees (Notre Dame Man)

[OlympiaIrishFan]

Buster, yes ND players that got arrested and kneed a cop. One that is suppose to be the leader of the team. The starting QB that was suspended by BK. Sorry, I can't support that. Instead of accepting his mistake while being arrested, he resisted. Great leader!

I have no problems with the booing, a way to have the fans show their disapproval for his play at the end of last year and the bad decisions he made in the summer.

I am totally for forgiveness, and actions taking towards making up for those mistakes. I did say the point was made and it is time to move one in my earlier post. Tommy has done everything he could to make it better. Mentoring the QB's, helping out the offense, and then helping us win the game. I am very happy and proud of him for stepping up and accepting it. And being very humble at the end. It shows me he gets it.

Boos happened, deserved IMO, and time to move on.

Domina, if you are correct--and it was Kelly can you understand the fans on that one?

Actually, I am very happy on the resolve of this team. That game was incredible on how the whole team adapted and overcame. Pretty dang cool.

 

[NDinFL]

Sorry, the leader who gets arrested and resists arrest??? Sorry, he earned the boo's. Like I said earlier, they showed their disapproval of what he did. He took it, and stepped up. Now that is over and time to move on.

I still don't want him leading the team.

What type of leader is a starting QB that gets arrested and then resists arrest??? You can support that, but I really can't.

NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO MAKE MISTAKES! EVER! ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE YOUNG

 

[ndfi78]

People make mistakes, you DO NOT BOO YOUR PLAYERS. Period.

Posts like yours are the reason I stopped coming to this site during the season last year.

 

[pkt77242]

Sorry, the leader who gets arrested and resists arrest??? Sorry, he earned the boo's. Like I said earlier, they showed their disapproval of what he did. He took it, and stepped up. Now that is over and time to move on.

I still don't want him leading the team.

What type of leader is a starting QB that gets arrested and then resists arrest??? You can support that, but I really can't.

He made a mistake and he is facing his punishment. He is a leader because even after he got in trouble he has continued to mentor Golson and the interview after the game showed how he is a leader. So Michael Floyd couldn't be a leader after getting arrested? No one can ever redeem themselves from one mistake? One of the central themes of Catholicism is the belief in forgiveness and redemption. If you can't get behind his story (you don't have to want him to start) then maybe you need to go root for another team.

 

[Domina Nostra]

I think they were booing Kelly, not Rees.

Rees, for all his faults, is pretty darn effective with the game on the line- he's got a good disposition for a QB. His problem was he is too unathletic and too sloppy for the rest of the game.

 

[pkt77242]

I really like this article about Tommy, Tommy Rees: The Teammate and is why I will root for him. He was willing to help Golson and Hendrix to get better, spending time in the film room with them and coaching them on the field. That is a team player. That is someone we should cheer not boo.

 

[pkt77242]

I think they were booing Kelly, not Rees.

Rees, for all his faults, is pretty darn effective with the game on the line- he's got a good disposition for a QB. His problem was he is too unathletic and too sloppy for the rest of the game.

Maybe initially but after the first incompletion they started to boo again. That could only be aimed at Tommy.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Tommy taking all the #2 snaps in practice logically puts an end to this rumor I'd think. Tommy wouldn't want to burn his third year of eligibility if he had other plans.

EDIT: That was a great point. Now it is even more significant. And I picked it for the start of my post. Just so everybody knows I know Mike to be one of the most intelligent, openminded persons on this board, and he certainly is no one I am reffering to at any point further in this post.

I don't know anything about that situation. BUT: But Rees taking the number two snaps in retrospect should logically put an end to the Kelly doubters. It was such the right move. Kelly EVEN addressed the fact that if Golson went down earlier, he may be inclined to put Hendrix in. I think even that comment adds to the brilliance of Kelly's handling the whole quarterback position. He has three winners set up to give their best!

I am extatic for how this portends to the future success of our Irish; and I only feel vindiated in that ingnorant bastards, that booed and make such personally insulting comments, can be seen for what they are.

 

[pkt77242]

I just want to say Thank You

 

[NDinFL]

I just want to say Thank You

I 2nd that.

*waits for HCTI

 

[Rhode Irish]

I was impressed that Tommy didn't cost us the game. I would have stuck with Golson.

 

[Ricochet]

I was impressed that Tommy didn't cost us the game. I would have stuck with Golson.

Why what has Golson done? I don't get he hype that he receives.

Golson's physical gifts are clearly better than Rees's but guess what his offense's actually scored and moved the ball.

ND has offensive weapons and Golson has been so bad that teams don't honor his passing hence why they can't get a running game going.

Rees last season frustrated me with his shortcomings and bad turnovers but at the same time he actually moved the ball down field regularly with his passing game and I remember quite a few 300+ games and that ability allowed them to have an effective running game and Wood and Gray had many big games because of that.

Yet under Golson the vastly more talented QB they don't pass the ball well or run it all that effectively either.

ND's got a great stable of RB's, a supposedly better OL, no Mike Floyd but good WR talent to go with the nations best TE, however no one would no that since they can't get him the ball.

Everyone has bad games but come on, not only should ND not have lost to USF and UM last year but they did, but give me this years Defense with that same Offensive performance and they win those games. ND was playing with USC until that fumble on 1 yard line and that changed everything, a 14 point swing in the other direction. Once again give me this years D and that could very well made all the difference in the USC, Stanford games and without question in the FSU game.

OK,my point is from what we've already seen from this years D could have made all the difference if that what last years D to go with last years Offense but lets take this years Golson offense and do the same and IMO ND has a lot more than just 4 loses.

 

[Jebediah Springfield]

Why what has Golson done? I don't get he hype that he receives.

Golson's physical gifts are clearly better than Rees's but guess what his offense's actually scored and moved the ball.

ND has offensive weapons and Golson has been so bad that teams don't honor his passing hence why they can't get a running game going.

Rees last season frustrated me with his shortcomings and bad turnovers but at the same time he actually moved the ball down field regularly with his passing game and I remember quite a few 300+ games and that ability allowed them to have an effective running game and Wood and Gray had many big games because of that.

Yet under Golson the vastly more talented QB they don't pass the ball well or run it all that effectively either.

ND's got a great stable of RB's, a supposedly better OL, no Mike Floyd but good WR talent to go with the nations best TE, however no one would no that since they can't get him the ball.

Everyone has bad games but come on, not only should ND not have lost to USF and UM last year but they did, but give me this years Defense with that same Offensive performance and they win those games. ND was playing with USC until that fumble on 1 yard line and that changed everything, a 14 point swing in the other direction. Once again give me this years D and that could very well made all the difference in the USC, Stanford games and without question in the FSU game.

OK,my point is from what we've already seen from this years D could have made all the difference if that what last years D to go with last years Offense but lets take this years Golson offense and do the same and IMO ND has a lot more than just 4 loses.

Watch the game again and then tell me what you think. I won't disagree that Golson was out of it and deserved to sit awhile but...

 

[peoriairish]

Why what has Golson done? I don't get he hype that he receives.

Golson's physical gifts are clearly better than Rees's but guess what his offense's actually scored and moved the ball.

ND has offensive weapons and Golson has been so bad that teams don't honor his passing hence why they can't get a running game going.

Rees last season frustrated me with his shortcomings and bad turnovers but at the same time he actually moved the ball down field regularly with his passing game and I remember quite a few 300+ games and that ability allowed them to have an effective running game and Wood and Gray had many big games because of that.

Yet under Golson the vastly more talented QB they don't pass the ball well or run it all that effectively either.

ND's got a great stable of RB's, a supposedly better OL, no Mike Floyd but good WR talent to go with the nations best TE, however no one would no that since they can't get him the ball.

Everyone has bad games but come on, not only should ND not have lost to USF and UM last year but they did, but give me this years Defense with that same Offensive performance and they win those games. ND was playing with USC until that fumble on 1 yard line and that changed everything, a 14 point swing in the other direction. Once again give me this years D and that could very well made all the difference in the USC, Stanford games and without question in the FSU game.

OK,my point is from what we've already seen from this years D could have made all the difference if that what last years D to go with last years Offense but lets take this years Golson offense and do the same and IMO ND has a lot more than just 4 loses.

Thank you Tommy. You stepped in when needed and did a great job.

 

[Jebediah Springfield]

Thank you Tommy. You stepped in when needed and did a great job.

Ricochet, you don't know what your talking about.

Im lost... I think he complimented TR in his post.

 

[rtrn2glory]

bottom line: coach kelly had to go with tommy...EG was a mess and not ready for the big stage.

job is to win games and last night muc to the dismay of several on the board tommy was by far the best man for the job last night and deserves only cheers for his being ready and taking care of the ball with thanks to coach kelly for riding the tail of his stout defense. yes...eventually we're going to need to start scoring to win, but right now our dfense is playing almost flawlessly and we're just going to have to ride that train for awhile.

let's hope the by week can help us find some offense

 

[EddytoNow]

Granted Tommy got us one touchdown, but the offense was inept the whole game, including the time that Tommy was in the game. When Golson was in the game Kelly was looking for the quick strike and had Golson throwing almost every pass down the field. He wasn't getting the job done and had two interceptions.

Tommy came in with good field position and directed one drive for a touchdown, but the play book was opened up a little more when he was in the game. However, I am willing to bet that most TV viewers were on the edge of their seat waiting for the Rees turnover that would cost us the game. Rees wins a few games with his composure, but let's not forget the multiple games he lost by doing exactly what Golson was doing, turning the ball over. I don't think Golson ends the year with 19 turnovers, even if he retains his job as starter.

Golson was turning the ball over in in his fourth game, Tommy was turning the ball over repeatedly at the end of his second year at the position. Tommy is just too inconsistent to be the starter.

 

[rtrn2glory]

the offense was alot better with cierre on the field it seems like....still not sure about his lack of PT now that he is back. all i can think is coach doesn't trust him taking care of the ball

 

[Fbolt]

T-bags for Tommy haters.

I appreciate this guys maturity and professionalism in a difficult situation both on the field, and in reality, off the field as well.

Glad to have him on the CFB team I support as he's an asset and a team player.

 

[irishff1014]

the offense was alot better with cierre on the field it seems like....still not sure about his lack of PT now that he is back. all i can think is coach doesn't trust him taking care of the ball

We were having a storm last night and the press conference after the game i think kelly said they would stick with the back that working the best. I can't say that for sure the feed kept freezing.

 

[Irish Insanity]

Golson shoulda never got yanked, he has a better winning percentage as a starter than Rees. But really, I love that we have someone who can come in when Golson is struggling and manage the game. I'm not sure what this does for Golsons confidence and learning, but I know what it has done for our team. 4-0 (its been some time), we beat MSU and UofM in the same year for the first time in a bit, our D is great so our O has time to learn and grow, and he may not have out ran the police but he out ran UofM D for a TD.

 

[Old Man Mike]

My view of the situation is perhaps naively simple:

A). Tommy Rees came into the game and played extremely competently and we scored enough, didn't turn it over, and won the game against a tough, athletic opponent. For this performance on this particular day, Tommy deserves nothing but very high praise. Anything less than that seems to reflect more on the non-praisegiver's fear of things which went on last season, and their worry about dashed hopes for Everett handling our team like he was Doug Flutie or Tyrod Taylor, than the actual fact that Tommy did us a great service vs Michigan and those fears should be stuffed until a more appropriate set of circumstances validates them.

B). Coach immediately said that Everett's still the starting QB. First of all, Kelly may change his mind when it becomes appropriate to do so to win ballgames, but I have not found him to be a liar about what he says at the moment asked. He says that Everett is the starter; right now, barring Everett blowing it, Everett is. Secondly, this was "right" by Coach in two ways. He assesses Everett as being our chance of ultimately producing an elite offense which we do not currently have. Tommy gives us a "good" to "competent" offense, but one which lacks an upside to get to what Coach calls "championship football". [This lack is not all Tommy, by the way]. Any gripes about whether Everett will start or whether Tommy will get the job back, should be directed [gently] at Everett, not Coach nor Tommy. If Everett blows it, it will be he that blows it. Kelly will do what's best for the team as it faces each new game.

C). Fingernail-biters who think that Everett will be psychologically damaged by this need to assess whether they want anyone putatively that fragile quarterbacking Notre Dame. Tommy plays quarterback for us precisely because he's NOT that fragile. Dayne does not play quarterback for us because he is. Who is Everett?? He better be a lot more Tommy than Dayne if we want him to be our QB. This isn't Little League. These guys MUST show that they're men not boys. The heat's on. Who wants to attack it, and who wants to duck and cover?

D). Tommy I'll bet is enjoying his role. He's already pulled off two storybook performances for us this season, and is well on his way to creating his own little legend within Notre Dame football. The anti-Tommy gripers and hysterics should just shut up and let him be the best back-up quarterback in the country, who is keeping his team undefeated.

 

[irishff1014]

How can you not be happy with with Rees? This young man lost the starting job and has been asked twice to come in and bail the offense out. Which for the most part he did again last night. Good job Tommy you are handling this with Class.

 

[returnofthemack]

I have been one of Rees' biggest detractors. He has really stepped up this year. This is the perfect role for him. Obviously he has a calm head and can lead an OK offense. So when our defense is playing at an elite level and Golson's having a bad day, there's nobody better to step in.

 

[peoriairish]

One of the talking heads had an interesting point sometime this past week. BK treats his QBs just like any other position player. When Cierre isn't playing well, no one gripes when Theo gets more touches. When a WR1 isn't running his routes or making the catches, no one says anything when WR3 comes in. This is how BK treats his QB situation. He puts in whoever is ready to play, at that moment, and who can give the Irish the best chance at a victory. We should consider ourselves lucky that we have an abundance of capable QBs that BK can do this with.

Once again, great job Tommy. You are truly an asset to this team.

 

[NDhoosier]

T-bags for Tommy haters.

I am not a Tommy hater, love seeing the kid doing well... but my reply is:

T-bags for the people already throwing Golson under the bus.

 

[Grahambo]

My take despite not being asked: Golson was overwhelmed by the moment. Had the jitters and BK, in his 20-something years of experience,caught on and went to the experienced one while dropping the offense to simple yet effective. I think as simple as that.

EG has already been announced as the starter, no issues at all.

 

[Jebediah Springfield]

I am not a Tommy hater, love seeing the kid doing well... but my reply is:

T-bags for the people already throwing Golson under the bus.

truth... the problem is TR didn't lead them anywhere. The TD drive he led started in Mich territory...WATCH THE GAME AGAIN. He did make some good plays but as an upperclassman he still makes too many mistakes. He overthrew Daniels for a TD. He missed an easy hot read for Eifert on a blitz and threw a bad pass to jones instead. Lastly, I said it somewhere in one of these threads Kelly needs to figure out what Golson is capable of doing on pass plays, because he could have came back in the game and handed off the ball like TR was doing just fine.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Which brings us back to Michigan's defense. They played competent defence. They flew to the ball, and they disguised coverages like mfkers!

 

[ndfi78]

They were a lot better than I thought they would be, honestly.