Allen Pinket: ND Needs Criminals

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Allen Pinkett apologizes for ‘bad citizens… criminals’ comments

Allen Pinkett apologizes for ‘bad citizens… criminals’ comments

http://m.nbcsports.com/content/allen-pinkett-apologizes-‘bad-citizens…-criminals’-comments

In the face of a wave of criticism, Pinkett took a significant step or eight back from the statements made during the interview in a statement released last night:

“In reviewing my remarks from a radio interview Wednesday, it’s clear that I chose my words poorly and that an apology is in order for these inappropriate comments. *My words do not reflect the strong pride and passion I have for the Notre Dame football program.
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“I am deeply sorry and did not intend to take away the focus from the upcoming season opener. I especially would like to offer my sincere apology to the current members of Notre Dame’s football team, including Coach Kelly, the entire Notre Dame community, the IMG College Audio Network and the Ohio State football program. As a proud Notre Dame graduate, I wish nothing but the best for our football team and the University.
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“I understand that there may be consequences to my actions and accept whatever discipline is imposed.”

Pinkett has been an analyst on Irish football radio broadcasts for more than a decade. *His employer, Notre Dame IMG Network, released a statement that read, in part, “[w]e completely disagree with those comments. …we will be determining disciplinary action to be taken.”

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Brian Kelly: "Can't wrap my brain around" Pinkett comments - CBSSports.com

The Notre Dame coach reacted here Thursday, a day after Notre Dame color analyst Allen Pinkett suggested Notre Dame needed more “criminals.” Pinkett also said that the program is “growing” because a few players were “worthy of a suspension.” PInkett was referring to four Irish players who didn't make the trip for various suspensions including last year's starting quarterback Tommy Rees and leading rusher Cierre Wood.

Pinkett added he always felt that there needed to be a “a few bad citizens on any team.”

“I don't know what he [Pinkett] was trying to say,” Kelly said following Thursday's practice, the first on Irish soil after arriving. “I can't put any logic to it.”

Kelly went on to say he wants “tough gentlemen, I want tough guys on the field, guys that play physical and are gentlemen off the field.”

Kelly added about Pinkett's comments, “I can't wrap my brain around it.”

Pinkett was on the team charter but he and Kelly did not speak, the coach said

 

[PANDFAN]

Brian Kelly: "Can't wrap my brain around" Pinkett comments - CBSSports.com

The Notre Dame coach reacted here Thursday, a day after Notre Dame color analyst Allen Pinkett suggested Notre Dame needed more “criminals.” Pinkett also said that the program is “growing” because a few players were “worthy of a suspension.” PInkett was referring to four Irish players who didn't make the trip for various suspensions including last year's starting quarterback Tommy Rees and leading rusher Cierre Wood.

Pinkett added he always felt that there needed to be a “a few bad citizens on any team.”

“I don't know what he [Pinkett] was trying to say,” Kelly said following Thursday's practice, the first on Irish soil after arriving. “I can't put any logic to it.”

Kelly went on to say he wants “tough gentlemen, I want tough guys on the field, guys that play physical and are gentlemen off the field.”

Kelly added about Pinkett's comments, “I can't wrap my brain around it.”

Pinkett was on the team charter but he and Kelly did not speak, the coach said

that awkward silence when ur pissed at someone but they are pissed too, being silent and each is waiting for the other to make the first move.

 

[BGIF]

that awkward silence when ur pissed at someone but they are pissed too, being silent and each is waiting for the other to make the first move.

The awkward silence was after Pinkett's boss at IMG said, "I don't care if Joe Biden mis-speaks. He's the Vice President. Next week you're doing play by play with Paul Hornung and Jimmy The Greek."

 

[rikkitikki08]

Im not sure how i feel about this, the only thing i dont like is it somewhat makes the university look weak

 

[RDU Irish]

that awkward silence when ur pissed at someone but they are pissed too, being silent and each is waiting for the other to make the first move.

More like that awkward silence the morning after I am out drinking too much and have to get up and do stuff. If I say anything my wife lays into me for being an idiot and she doesn't say anything because that silent treatment is so much more effective. And if I stay in bed then there is REALLY hell to pay.

 

[Irish#1]

What we need, and what I hope Allen meant, is attitude. Mean guys. This is why I hated to see Aaron Lynch go.

I want a few late hit penalties. I want some showboating. We need a little bit of that.

Pinkett could've chosen his words better. This is almost as bad as Hornings "black athlete" comment a few years back. Imagine if a Theisman had said this.....

That's the first thing I thought of when I heard about his comments. Hopefully he meant attitude or an edge or whatever term you want to give it. Someone who plays pissed off wanting to make a statement every play.

Kelly went on to say he wants “tough gentlemen, I want tough guys on the field, guys that play physical and are gentlemen off the field.”


Guys like John Wayne and Gary Cooper. Bad *** gentlemen.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Ha

@BGI_WesMorgan: Need a good example of how Allen Pinkett's comments haven't distracted #ND players? Manti Te'o: "Who's that?" #Irish #fb

 

[Bogtrotter07]

That's the first thing I thought of when I heard about his comments. Hopefully he meant attitude or an edge or whatever term you want to give it. Someone who plays pissed off wanting to make a statement every play.

Kelly went on to say he wants “tough gentlemen, I want tough guys on the field, guys that play physical and are gentlemen off the field.”


Guys like John Wayne and Gary Cooper. Bad *** gentlemen.

?????

They were actors and at least one was a notorious womanizer.

 

[irishtrain]

I do like the little jab at osu, but he gone.

Alan Pinkett-he gone-the admn will not tolerate this, as it gets to the very core of how they are happy with the status quo, and I can understand. Poor poor choice of the word criminal as he could have made his point with another word. But do I agree with his concept and idea that its a soft program-%$#@ yes. Gone are the days boys and get ready for a more politically correct soft football team. When the $$$ runs out from tv contracts maybe it will change and many have viewed my opinions on this subject as I want the criminal element in Notre Dame. Thats not what I am saying. I am saying that unless they enter the arena of what the top 20 teams in college football are doing with the college life experience and have 85 guys on campus to win football games and entertain like these other schools do lets just join the MAC or IVY League. I will still love Notre Dame while they play Toledo/Akron/Penn/Harvard etc. Pinkett showed some stones but his choice of one word was intensly wrong-I agreee with him on the concept and its burning up the talk shows today as the nation shows how much they miss a relevant Notre Dame football team. Bottom line is the nation knows Notre Dame is a real nice, real well schooled bunch of guys who are going to get their $%%#@ handed to them this year and they miss a powerfull Notre Dame presence. I'm for downsizing the schedule and playing at a level you can compete in or listen ( read between the lines) to Pinkett's message.

 

[Joee]

I disagree with him on the use of the word criminal for the type of behavior he describes. Every Friday and Saturday night in Oceanside Calif used to be full of high testosteroned, underage hellraisers drinking,fighting, and cussing. Not suggesting you turn South Bend into Oceanside but we really didn't think of ourselves as criminals.

 

[IrishLion]

?????

They were actors and at least one was a notorious womanizer.

As long as they were gentlemenly womanizers

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Alan Pinkett-he gone-the admn will not tolerate this, as it gets to the very core of how they are happy with the status quo, and I can understand. Poor poor choice of the word criminal as he could have made his point with another word. But do I agree with his concept and idea that its a soft program-%$#@ yes. Gone are the days boys and get ready for a more politically correct soft football team. When the $$$ runs out from tv contracts maybe it will change and many have viewed my opinions on this subject as I want the criminal element in Notre Dame. Thats not what I am saying. I am saying that unless they enter the arena of what the top 20 teams in college football are doing with the college life experience and have 85 guys on campus to win football games and entertain like these other schools do lets just join the MAC or IVY League. I will still love Notre Dame while they play Toledo/Akron/Penn/Harvard etc. Pinkett showed some stones but his choice of one word was intensly wrong-I agreee with him on the concept and its burning up the talk shows today as the nation shows how much they miss a relevant Notre Dame football team. Bottom line is the nation knows Notre Dame is a real nice, real well schooled bunch of guys who are going to get their $%%#@ handed to them this year and they miss a powerfull Notre Dame presence. I'm for downsizing the schedule and playing at a level you can compete in or listen ( read between the lines) to Pinkett's message.

 

[pumpdog20]

Disagree with what Pinket said completely. I know criminal was the wrong word, when he tried to clarify with underage drinking and cussing, it still made no sense. You know what happens, when you underage drink or do any of these so called "non-choir boy" activities and you get caught? You get suspended. Somehow having a person who is good but can't play will help ND.

Does Notre Dame really lack players with passion, intensity, ferocity, etc? I don't think so. We lack a few of the elite players some of the better teams have.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

@MacAndSpiegs
SOURCE: Allen Pinkett On Way Back From Ireland Source: Allen Pinkett On Way Back From Ireland « CBS Chicago

 

[Bogtrotter07]

What a bunch of bull shiit this whole thing is! Someone lost their job over a comment everyone agrees was stupid? I hope it is just an educational opportunity for the first weeks game. The whole core of the problem, that creates this whole situation is that football has become more important, than what is really important, personal integrity, honor, loyalty, honesty . . . So the solution to deal with someone who was on the right path and may have lost their way is to fire them? Someone (collectively) needs a nice drink of cranberry juice!

 

[tadman95]

@MacAndSpiegs
SOURCE: Allen Pinkett On Way Back From Ireland Source: Allen Pinkett On Way Back From Ireland « CBS Chicago

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[Bogtrotter07]

You realize how this is going to look to non-ND fans? Every ND fan is going to bear the brunt of the non-existent stereotypical anti-gay prejudice of the silent ugly American over dismissing a guy that most people will perceive as saying "ND needs to get tougher."

 

[dre1919]

First off, Kate Upton's breasts are REALLY distracting repeated that many times in the same thread. Just..wow.

Anyway, Pinkett got canned (and he had to know that was coming) but he's not entirely wrong. I think his terminology is wrong...or at least a poor choice. But, the idea is along the same things I've thought for a long time...and it opens an argument that "Are Blue Chip, Top 10 players at their positions able to make it academically at ND?"

But, then that opens another line of thought along the lines of "Even if they can, why would they WANT to when they can go to the $EC and places like U$C that let them slide through on easy classes"? If your goal is to get to the NFL, as most Top Ten at their position players' goal is, then why add to your difficulty by going somewhere that classes are actually HARD?

Sure, some actually do want a quality education. But, unfortunately, most are looking for their lottery ticket instant millionaire status in the form of the NFL. It's better now that the NFL has a rookie pay scale, but they can still make more in one afternoon in the spring (contract from The Draft) than most of us would ever make even with a degree from ND.

 

[Irish#1]

What a bunch of bull shiit this whole thing is! Someone lost their job over a comment everyone agrees was stupid? I hope it is just an educational opportunity for the first weeks game. The whole core of the problem, that creates this whole situation is that football has become more important, than what is really important, personal integrity, honor, loyalty, honesty . . . So the solution to deal with someone who was on the right path and may have lost their way is to fire them? Someone (collectively) needs a nice drink of cranberry juice!

I think he's been removed for just the Navy game.

Wayne and Cooper were actors, but what I was refering to, was the type of person they personified on the movie screen.

What we need is another Michael Stonebreaker, Chris Zorich and Jeff Faine. They had attitudes.

 

[k1ssme1m1r1sh]

I really like Allen Pinkett, and I love listening to him announce games when I can't watch them, too bad he stuck his foot in his mouth. WSBT reported today he's not allowed to announce the game in Ireland Saturday and that there may be more punishments to come.

here's the link
Pinkett removed from Notre Dame-Navy broadcast - wsbt.com

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I think he's been removed for just the Navy game.

Wayne and Cooper were actors, but what I was refering to, was the type of person they personified on the movie screen.

Thanks for the info. I hope he is removed for Navy without pay. It was a stupid thing to say. But, as a person who has said more than his share of stupid things, I hope that he retains his job in the long run.

That would mean disipline with compassion, which is how I raised/am raising three pretty brolic sons. I think they would be considered tough gentlemen by most. But, I am not saying that my kids have the talent to pull off ND,

About the actors, I am just pulling your leg. I love to do it to anyone who uses an actor as an example of anything. But it does rile me to see Marion refered to on this web site, as he was such a loyal SC Alum and player.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I really like Allen Pinkett, and I love listening to him announce games when I can't watch them, too bad he stuck his foot in his mouth. WSBT reported today he's not allowed to announce the game in Ireland Saturday and that there may be more punishments to come.

here's the link
Pinkett removed from Notre Dame-Navy broadcast - wsbt.com

Did you notice how they spelled "Notre Dame" in the article?

He where did you get that neet avatar? How can I get one for myself, or at least to use as a signature?

 

[k1ssme1m1r1sh]

Did you notice how they spelled "Notre Dame" in the article?

He where did you get that neet avatar? How can I get one for myself, or at least to use as a signature?

Hahaha, google images, Magic Mike. Or you can steal mine. I didn't see how they spelled ND, for shame, this is ND's home station!

 

[RDU Irish]

I think k1ssme1m1r1sh would like a brolic.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Hahaha, google images, Magic Mike. Or you can steal mine. I didn't see how they spelled ND, for shame, this is ND's home station!

I am going to steal yours. Don't be surprised if it shows up somewhere else, besides your avatar. "Notre Dme", not hard to see and correct. The point is, they got that one out fast!!! (The article.)

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I think k1ssme1m1r1sh is brolic.

I fixed it for you. She is an Irish woman.

 

[Pachuco]

Allen Pinkett has NOT lost his job, and it would be a shame if he did.

He made some unwise comments, apologized for them, and was pulled for the Navy game.

Anything beyond that would be ridiculous.

Besides, ND needs more "criminals" as fans and within the administration.

Get tough, people.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

You make me laugh my *** off!

 

[Irish#1]

Thanks for the info. I hope he is removed for Navy without pay. It was a stupid thing to say. But, as a person who has said more than his share of stupid things, I hope that he retains his job in the long run.

That would mean disipline with compassion, which is how I raised/am raising three pretty brolic sons. I think they would be considered tough gentlemen by most. But, I am not saying that my kids have the talent to pull off ND,

About the actors, I am just pulling your leg. I love to do it to anyone who uses an actor as an example of anything. But it does rile me to see Marion refered to on this web site, as he was such a loyal SC Alum and player.

You're right he was a Trojan, but I don't hold it against him. He went there before the change for the worse occurred out there.