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[FLDomer]

They have Seantrel Henderson.

HA!! Your right!! We are screwed if his back holds up and he doesn't **** off Golden anymore!

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Why is it that a lot of people see Miami as a "swing" game. They were 6-6 last yr, they lost their starting QB, RB, 2 top WRs, 2 OL, DT DE, LB (stud in spence)..... There projected starting QB is questionable (back surgery). I think Golden is a good coach but we SHOULD be able to run ALL OVER THEM! Our front 7 should over power their oline and pressure an untested QB and stuff the run, leaving only their untested WRs against our untested DBs.

I think Miami will be a swing/tough game. Golden is a good coach and a lot of the players they lost were "me" players. They are still Miami and have a ton of talent. Don't sleep on freshman RB Duke Johnson either. ND beat them down in the sun bowl so they will play their A+ game to get revenge. This is a huge game for them and could be a let down game for ND if they beat Michigan at night the week before.

 

[FLDomer]

I think Miami will be a swing/tough game. Golden is a good coach and a lot of the players they lost were "me" players. They are still Miami and have a ton of talent. Don't sleep on freshman RB Duke Johnson either. ND beat them down in the sun bowl so they will play their A+ game to get revenge. This is a huge game for them and could be a let down game for ND if they beat Michigan at night the week before.

I agree that Golden is a good coach and they have some young talent BUT believe me I saw a lot of there games last yr and follow the program relativly closely (my wife and in-laws are die-hard Canes fan). They have some talent but none more than ours (probably less imo). The key to them is youth, they will be young and inexperianced, especially in the trenches, at RB and WR....I think Golden will have his boys ready but I see our experiance upfront on both sides of the ball will over power them.

Even my Miami in-laws who are nuts fans see themselves getting rolled by ND, mostly because of their youth. I guess we will find out come Oct! See yall in Chi-town!

 

[Sherm Sticky]

I agree that Golden is a good coach and they have some young talent BUT believe me I saw a lot of there games last yr and follow the program relativly closely (my wife and in-laws are die-hard Canes fan). They have some talent but none more than ours (probably less imo). The key to them is youth, they will be young and inexperianced, especially in the trenches, at RB and WR....I think Golden will have his boys ready but I see our experiance upfront on both sides of the ball will over power them.

Even my Miami in-laws who are nuts fans see themselves getting rolled by ND, mostly because of their youth. I guess we will find out come Oct! See yall in Chi-town!

The game just worries me , because it's the week after the huge Michigan game, let down time. Also, they will want revenge for the beating ND gave them in the Sunbowl. Just my opinion.

 

[ACamp1900]

Miami definately has the potential to beat us... that's all I know...

hoping the boys get rollin from the word go for once and have a strong first half... and 5-1 start should end with a nice bowl...

 

[Rudy89]

Since Im going to say that we wont make the BCS this year (at best we go 8-4 I dont feel like we have a chance against USC or OU barring a miracle, we will drop one or both to the michigan teams, and since its happened every year since 08 I think we lose one we shouldnt lose) and we used up our Champs Sports Bid what "good" bowl options are out there? I don't think we can go to the Sun Bowl again because correct me if I'm wrong but didnt we only go because of USC's bowl ban and we filled the pac-10s spot? While I enjoy the bowl games the whole system confuses the hell out of me at times.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Since Im going to say that we wont make the BCS this year (at best we go 8-4 I dont feel like we have a chance against USC or OU barring a miracle, we will drop one or both to the michigan teams, and since its happened every year since 08 I think we lose one we shouldnt lose) and we used up our Champs Sports Bid what "good" bowl options are out there? I don't think we can go to the Sun Bowl again because correct me if I'm wrong but didnt we only go because of USC's bowl ban and we filled the pac-10s spot? While I enjoy the bowl games the whole system confuses the hell out of me at times.

No disrespect, but you're definitely not giving this team enough credit. Personally, I don't see anything from USC or OU that makes them better than ND. USC has to replace their entire pass rush, their best OT, they lost Carlisle, and they return on of the countries worst LB corps. I'd start there if I'm Kelly and Martin. USC is also very top heavy. Meaning, one major injury and their season is pretty much down the toilet.

OU has nothing that really scares me. Their defense was humiliated against OSU, and Landry Jones is kinda overrated. Once he lost Broyles, he was like Rees, totally lost. Texas Tech proved that OU is not unbeatable in Norman. If a average Raider team lead by Tuberville can beat them, then ND should be able to.

I think they're more than capable of beating one of those two teams, heck maybe even both. They just need a good start. Last year, they lost a lot of momentum with sloppy football and it cost them. This year, their start is a lot easier with Navy and Purdue to kick it off. If they leave the Michigan game 4-0, then they could run through the competition and be undefeated going into LA. They need a good start, and Golson needs to be in sync.

 

[NDinL.A.]

No disrespect, but you're definitely not giving this team enough credit. Personally, I don't see anything from USC or OU that makes them better than ND. USC has to replace their entire pass rush, their best OT, they lost Carlisle, and they return on of the countries worst LB corps. I'd start there if I'm Kelly and Martin. USC is also very top heavy. Meaning, one major injury and their season is pretty much down the toilet.

OU has nothing that really scares me. Their defense was humiliated against OSU, and Landry Jones is kinda overrated. Once he lost Broyles, he was like Rees, totally lost. Texas Tech proved that OU is not unbeatable in Norman. If a average Raider team lead by Tuberville can beat them, then ND should be able to.

I think they're more than capable of beating one of those two teams, heck maybe even both. They just need a good start. Last year, they lost a lot of momentum with sloppy football and it cost them. This year, their start is a lot easier with Navy and Purdue to kick it off. If they leave the Michigan game 4-0, then they could run through the competition and be undefeated going into LA. They need a good start, and Golson needs to be in sync.

Kool-aid post of the year, and it's not even close LOL.

I don't agree with a lot of what you wrote, although I do love the enthusiasm. But one thing I believe that you are just flat out wrong with is saying that USC's LB corps is among the worst in the country.

You must not have seen them play very much, b/c that LB corp, especially the 2 outside kids, flat-out dominated games last year, especially by the end of the year. Hayes Pullard and Dion Bailey (both ND recruits, btw) were NASTY, especially Dion Bailey. I HATE the trogans, but man, Bailey was fun to watch. That Stanford game he had was flat-out sick (13 tackles before he got injured), and the only reason his stats weren't better is b/c he got hurt that game and was hobbled the next 3 games. He also had 2 picks against Cal and double digit tackles against both Arizona schools. So in only 9.5 games, he had 3 games with double digit tackles (as a point of reference, Darius Fleming, Dan Fox, Carlo Calabrese, and Prince Shembo had ZERO games with double digit tackles COMBINED.). And this was his first year playing college football!!!

And Pullard, also a redshirt freshman playing his first year, had more tackles than any other ND LB other than Manti Te'o, including an insane 14 tackle, 2 sack performance against Oregon's nasty spread offense (man, he dominated that game). And their other LB, their middle LB, was a true freshman who took the job over from 9th year senior Chris Gallipo. He struggled (like most young middle LBs), but has tons of talent and could be a force very soon.

Regardless, their LB is extremely talented, and totally equipped to handle spread offenses. But their outside guys are small so it's imperative you run downhill against them (which Stanford did, but Bailey still had an incredible game against them). Hopefully this year we play smashmouth against them, unlike last year. But seriously, going 11-0 into the game with them next year with a freshman QB is a pipe dream against our schedule. It's too damn tough...

 

[IrishLax]

OU is completely overrated. Unless Mike Stoops brings serious improvement to their defense they will continue to be a team that lights up the scoreboard against the beyond pathetic passing defenses of the Big 12 but struggles to beat quality out of conference competition. Landry Jones is also laughably overrated as an individual player and has zero chance of making it in the NFL. Just look at his "big game" stats.

With that being said they are still much better on paper than Notre Dame. I just don't think you should put them in the same category as USC. They don't belong there. Every single one of OU's positions (QB, WR, OL, DL, etc.) except for maybe RB is unequivocally worse than USC's.

 

[Buster Bluth]

I actually think Oklahoma might be the best team in the country.

 

[IrishLax]

I actually think Oklahoma might be the best team in the country.

Not a rhetorical question: why? I'd really like to hear why you think that because maybe I'm overlooking something. I keep envisioning the same team that got beat 44-10 by OSU to close the season; and I'll be the first to admit I don't really know what changes may be in place for this upcoming year besides the addition of Mike Stoops.

IMO Oklahoma is one of the most consistently overrated teams out there. In 2009 they were ranked preseason #3 and finished outside the top 25. Last year they were preseason #1 and finished #16... one of only 3 teams in the past 27 years to be ranked #1 preseason and finish outside the top 10. Did the same thing in 2005 when they were top 5 and finished #22.

I just dont see where the hype comes from. They'll be very good to great on offense but their defense is porous (see Texas Tech and Oklahoma State games last year). And in a direct head to head comparison Landry Jones is no Matt Barkley and their WRs are no Marquis Lee/Robert Woods.

 

[rock_knutne]

IMO, ND can beat both U$C and Oklahoma.

I agree with IrishLax about OU.......seems Stoops is hyped every year yet his Sooners underacheive. Landry Jones looked like a different QB when Broyles went down last year. Broyles is gone and their receiving corp is green, one of them is in legal trouble. Still not sold on Jones either and their running game is a mystery too.

The big X factor at U$C is Lane Kiffin.......I still believe he is a joke when it comes to HC's in football period. He's also stupid, the man committed violation after violation at Tenn, it's just a matter of time before he makes another bone headed move at U$C.

JMHO...........

 

[FLDomer]

Not a rhetorical question: why? I'd really like to hear why you think that because maybe I'm overlooking something. I keep envisioning the same team that got beat 44-10 by OSU to close the season; and I'll be the first to admit I don't really know what changes may be in place for this upcoming year besides the addition of Mike Stoops.

IMO Oklahoma is one of the most consistently overrated teams out there. In 2009 they were ranked preseason #3 and finished outside the top 25. Last year they were preseason #1 and finished #16... one of only 3 teams in the past 27 years to be ranked #1 preseason and finish outside the top 10. Did the same thing in 2005 when they were top 5 and finished #22.

I just dont see where the hype comes from. They'll be very good to great on offense but their defense is porous (see Texas Tech and Oklahoma State games last year). And in a direct head to head comparison Landry Jones is no Matt Barkley and their WRs are no Marquis Lee/Robert Woods.

I know the lost both Lewis's on D (Stud LB and DE) and Broyles on O....I dont know if they lost much more.

 

[ACamp1900]

I hear what Lax is saying but OU has been a consistent contender for well over a decade now... and no team is harder to beat in their house imo...

that'll be a very hard game for any team any given saturday... ND is no exception.

 

[FeSantacl]

you are right

you are right

you are right

 

[Chris P. Bacon]

BCS bowl game appearances
1.Ohio State-9
2.Oklahoma-8
3.USC-7
4.Florida-6
5.FSU-6
6.VTU-6
7.LSU-5
8.Mich-5
9.Miami-4
10.Texas-4
11.Bama-4
12.Oregon-4
13.Wisconsin-4
14.WVU-3
15.Georgia-3
16.Stanford-3
17.Notre Dame-3

My only point to the top few teams on this list are Ohio State of course has a lot of visits to a BCS bowl, they were the only prominent team in the Big10 for the past 10 years. Michigan and Penn State were all on a downturn/rebuilding years and the rest of the BIG 10 is about as good as Indiana football is. I mean all you have to do in the BIG10 is win a very very easy conference and you get a BCS bid to the rose bowl, I'm sorry but the schedule that osu plays is a cake walk. I think the biggest thing hurting us is not being in a weak conference and getting an auto-bid to a bcs bowl. Believe me, if we were in the big 10/East or ACC I guarantee that our numbers would have doubled in bcs appearances to 6, and we would be a top 10 team then. Not that I want us to join a conference, but it's the easiest way for a team to raise their BCS bowl appearances. Look at the BIG East, they get an auto-bid and who is the dominant team in that conference? If we were to join Big10/East and or ACC we wouldn't be having this conversation.

 

[rock_knutne]

My only point to the top few teams on this list are Ohio State of course has a lot of visits to a BCS bowl, they were the only prominent team in the Big10 for the past 10 years. Michigan and Penn State were all on a downturn/rebuilding years and the rest of the BIG 10 is about as good as Indiana football is. I mean all you have to do in the BIG10 is win a very very easy conference and you get a BCS bid to the rose bowl, I'm sorry but the schedule that osu plays is a cake walk. I think the biggest thing hurting us is not being in a weak conference and getting an auto-bid to a bcs bowl. Believe me, if we were in the big 10/East or ACC I guarantee that our numbers would have doubled in bcs appearances to 6, and we would be a top 10 team then. Not that I want us to join a conference, but it's the easiest way for a team to raise their BCS bowl appearances. Look at the BIG East, they get an auto-bid and who is the dominant team in that conference? If we were to join Big10/East and or ACC we wouldn't be having this conversation.

I couldn't agree more on your O$U and Big 10 comments. O$U is terrible in title games too!

 

[jonesman]

OSU is the biggest joke in this list. Tressel did a brilliant job at scheduling OSU into the BCS during his time leading the Bucks. He played the, "supporting Ohio schools" as a reason to schedule the likes of Youngstown St, Akron, Ohio, Toledo and more. OSU plays a joke of an out of conference schedule. They put ONE decent team on there OOC schedule and three pathetic cupcakes.

Further, they play 8 home games. They leave Columbus 4 times a year and those travels take them to far away places like East Lansing, Madison or Happy Valley. They have no idea what it is like to go to the west coast or east coast.

Finally, playing in the Big Ten means you see very similar offenses each week. Pro set power offenses. They don't deal with spread, option, pro-set and more. I have little respect for their program.

I find it real funny how they tried ND rival USC for a couple years and dropped that annual A$$ kicking. Also, for those who forget, they barely survived their one home game with Navy. Navy was one play from winning that one. My friends who are Buck fans quickly dropped the Academy jokes against ND. They found out it is NO fun trying to defend that option. UM will find out that fun this year with Air Force.

If the Irish were in the Big Ten, we would be winning 9-11 games every year. I would take Illinois, Minnesota, Indiana and Iowa as our conference slate. OSU, UM and UW only have to prep for about 3 tough games each year.

 

[rock_knutne]

OSU is the biggest joke in this list. Tressel did a brilliant job at scheduling OSU into the BCS during his time leading the Bucks. He played the, "supporting Ohio schools" as a reason to schedule the likes of Youngstown St, Akron, Ohio, Toledo and more. OSU plays a joke of an out of conference schedule. They put ONE decent team on there OOC schedule and three pathetic cupcakes.

Further, they play 8 home games. They leave Columbus 4 times a year and those travels take them to far away places like East Lansing, Madison or Happy Valley. They have no idea what it is like to go to the west coast or east coast.

Finally, playing in the Big Ten means you see very similar offenses each week. Pro set power offenses. They don't deal with spread, option, pro-set and more. I have little respect for their program.

I find it real funny how they tried ND rival USC for a couple years and dropped that annual A$$ kicking. Also, for those who forget, they barely survived their one home game with Navy. Navy was one play from winning that one. My friends who are Buck fans quickly dropped the Academy jokes against ND. They found out it is NO fun trying to defend that option. UM will find out that fun this year with Air Force.

If the Irish were in the Big Ten, we would be winning 9-11 games every year. I would take Illinois, Minnesota, Indiana and Iowa as our conference slate. OSU, UM and UW only have to prep for about 3 tough games each year.

Great post!!

 

[Buster Bluth]

OSU is the biggest joke in this list. Tressel did a brilliant job at scheduling OSU into the BCS during his time leading the Bucks. He played the, "supporting Ohio schools" as a reason to schedule the likes of Youngstown St, Akron, Ohio, Toledo and more. OSU plays a joke of an out of conference schedule. They put ONE decent team on there OOC schedule and three pathetic cupcakes.

Further, they play 8 home games. They leave Columbus 4 times a year and those travels take them to far away places like East Lansing, Madison or Happy Valley. They have no idea what it is like to go to the west coast or east coast.

Finally, playing in the Big Ten means you see very similar offenses each week. Pro set power offenses. They don't deal with spread, option, pro-set and more. I have little respect for their program.

I find it real funny how they tried ND rival USC for a couple years and dropped that annual A$$ kicking. Also, for those who forget, they barely survived their one home game with Navy. Navy was one play from winning that one. My friends who are Buck fans quickly dropped the Academy jokes against ND. They found out it is NO fun trying to defend that option. UM will find out that fun this year with Air Force.

If the Irish were in the Big Ten, we would be winning 9-11 games every year. I would take Illinois, Minnesota, Indiana and Iowa as our conference slate. OSU, UM and UW only have to prep for about 3 tough games each year.

You're out of your mind. Ohio State's schedule isn't any weaker than most of the BCS conference schools. They all schedule pathetic OOC's. I actually think Ohio State deserves some credit for scheduling some power teams. Southern Cal, Texas, Miami, Washington, (North Carolina State...I guess). In the future they have California, Virginia Tech, and Oklahoma.

Their model is 8 B1G games, 3 weak OOCs and 1 strong OOC. It's not that weak.

Wisconsin, Nebraska, Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State, Iowa. Those are programs that they'll play against in the Big Ten.

And they didn't drop Southern Cal, they signed a two-year deal.

And Navy wasn't really one play away from winning that game. Navy was getting controlled and almost pulled off a Michigan-esque 4th quarter rally.

 

[rock_knutne]

You're out of your mind. Ohio State's schedule isn't any weaker than most of the BCS conference schools. They all schedule pathetic OOC's. I actually think Ohio State deserves some credit for scheduling some power teams. Southern Cal, Texas, Miami, Washington, (North Carolina State...I guess). In the future they have California, Virginia Tech, and Oklahoma.

Their model is 8 B1G games, 3 weak OOCs and 1 strong OOC. It's not that weak.

Wisconsin, Nebraska, Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State, Iowa. Those are programs that they'll play against in the Big Ten.

And they didn't drop Southern Cal, they signed a two-year deal.

And Navy wasn't really one play away from winning that game. Navy was getting controlled and almost pulled off a Michigan-esque 4th quarter rally.

If my memory serves me correctly, Navy was NOT getting controlled at all, 20-7 at half time isn't getting controlled. They turned the ball over and actually gave O$U fits with the option. They played great defense against that piece of shite Pryor and the rest of the tat boys. Also, Navy was a two point conversion away from tying the game, so in essence they did actually pull off a rally of sorts but couldn't convert the 2 pointer. O$U will hesitate to schedule them ever again.

As for the Big 10, the conference sucks, period! Their recent bowl record says it all!

 

[Sherm Sticky]

If my memory serves me correctly, Navy was NOT getting controlled at all, 20-7 at half time isn't getting controlled. They turned the ball over and actually gave O$U fits with the option. They played great defense against that piece of shite Pryor and the rest of the tat boys. Also, Navy was a two point conversion away from tying the game, so in essence they did actually pull off a rally of sorts but couldn't convert the 2 pointer. O$U will hesitate to schedule them ever again.

As for the Big 10, the conference sucks, period! Their recent bowl record says it all!

Yep the Big 10 sucks...That means ND must really suck since we have lost 3 in a row to Michigan and 6 of the last 7. Plus the struggles we have had against the Spartans.

 

[rock_knutne]

Yep the Big 10 sucks...That means ND must really suck since we have lost 3 in a row to Michigan and 6 of the last 7. Plus the struggles we have had against the Spartans.

I can be honest with myself about ND, they have not been up to past standards, if you don't recognize that your blind. ND lost some very close games during that span of 6 losses in 7 games.........very close. To me, it shows the Big 10 is weak because they should be blowing ND out of the water when they play but that's hasn't been the case (even in the Fiesta Bowl vs O$U).

The bottom line is the Big 10 sucks, out side of Michigan, they play no one in OCC games and their bowl record is terrible lately.

 

[Chris P. Bacon]

I can be honest with myself about ND, they have not been up to past standards, if you don't recognize that your blind. ND lost some very close games during that span of 6 losses in 7 games.........very close. To me, it shows the Big 10 is weak because they should be blowing ND out of the water when they play but that's hasn't been the case (even in the Fiesta Bowl vs O$U).

The bottom line is the Big 10 sucks, out side of Michigan, they play no one in OCC games and their bowl record is terrible lately.

Don't let Michigan’s schedule this year cloud your judgment on their SOS. Yeah this year they may have a legit schedule, at least in comparison to their typical big10 schedule, but that is this year. Take a look at next years 2013 schedule, it's back to being the typical Big10 type of schedule.

1.Central Michigan
2.Notre Dame
3. Akron
4.UCONN

The rest of their games are all in conference, against those pesky Hoosiers, Penn State (Who will also be on a downward spiral), Northwestern and Iowa, . Now I know they can't get around playing their conference games, but all the more reason to schedule teams with at least some skill, Central Michigan and Akron are both in the MAC, which is by FAR the worst conference in all of college football (IMO). I went to Bowling Green, I saw the teams that came through the falcons stadium, it was a bunch of High School caliber teams, and their still all like that in the MAC. I guess their argument is that they didn't schedule non-fbs schools, but scheduling 2 teams from the mac is about the same as scheduling the non-fbs schools.

 

[condoms SUCk]

AD JS is going to be on CFL today to talk about where ND fits into the playoff picture.

 

[STLDomer]

Watching it now, talking about ND to start

Andre Ware is clueless

 

[condoms SUCk]

Brief recap
In a playoff picture he wants to keep track of larger goals-regular season, clear national champion, easily explainable
Confident whatever model is created that ND will have a seat by remaining Independent.
Independence remains a priority and optimistic that it can keep it.

 

[condoms SUCk]

Watching it now, talking about ND to start

Andre Ware is clueless

STL-add anything that I missed

 

[rock_knutne]

Don't let Michigan’s schedule this year cloud your judgment on their SOS. Yeah this year they may have a legit schedule, at least in comparison to their typical big10 schedule, but that is this year. Take a look at next years 2013 schedule, it's back to being the typical Big10 type of schedule.

1.Central Michigan
2.Notre Dame
3. Akron
4.UCONN

The rest of their games are all in conference, against those pesky Hoosiers, Penn State (Who will also be on a downward spiral), Northwestern and Iowa, . Now I know they can't get around playing their conference games, but all the more reason to schedule teams with at least some skill, Central Michigan and Akron are both in the MAC, which is by FAR the worst conference in all of college football (IMO). I went to Bowling Green, I saw the teams that came through the falcons stadium, it was a bunch of High School caliber teams, and their still all like that in the MAC. I guess their argument is that they didn't schedule non-fbs schools, but scheduling 2 teams from the mac is about the same as scheduling the non-fbs schools.

Besides ND, they have always played atleast one more heavy hitter in CFB. Next year IMO, is an exception.

 

[rock_knutne]

Watching it now, talking about ND to start

Andre Ware is clueless

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