There are few things fans can do to show displeasure with what the team is doing. It has nothing to do with sticking with the team or being a true fan. The only things a fan can do is stop selling out games or showing the team/management that what is happening is not acceptable.
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Just a curious thought. For those against booing the player should Kelly tell at the players? If so why or why not?
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I was a college teacher all my working life, and many of my family have been or are now teachers and coaches. "Criticism" comes in many flavors. Whenever its source is simple self-generated explosive emotion [whether the criticism is somehow "correct" or not], it tends to be unhelpful if not all the way to inhuman and counterproductive. We are ourselves humans [presumably most on this board are anyway], and so we will inappropriately allow our own self-centered emotions to spew out in what we will call "criticism", but which is more simply ourselves releasing self-created stresses. Criticism should be for the benefit of the criticized, if one is a teacher or a coach, and not just a self-primal-scream-therapy act.
Fans. a term that I will use to mean those who want a team to win some contest regardless of any feelings than their own, will "naturally" express displeasure without regard to any larger concerns. Although such self-oriented behavior is "understandable" in some sense, it cannot be viewed either as noble nor consciously oriented towards helping the larger good.
Teachers and coaches have greater responsibility, as it is their profession, even their vocation, to consider the development of the individual before their own mindless reactions. We all fail occasionally at this, as we are humans too, and frustration can get pretty onerous. Coach Kelly REALLY cares about many things. The top two of these are the development of the young athletes in his charge as both men and skilled football players; and secondly that the team succeeds [which reduces in the final analysis to the same thing as the first]. Nevertheless, the ripsaw effect between growth-of-team and growth-of-player creates difficult moments. Thus his occasional explosions.
Coach realizes that he shouldn't unconsciously explode at all. Almost every time he rapidly gets hold of himself, grabs the player, and begins to teach. Kelly's a deeply caring guy. I believe that he demonstrates that to the players every day. They know that he's going to act instinctively some times, but that he's got them and the team always in sight and heart, so they, like myself, respect him even knowing that he will blow-up once in a while.
Fans. a term that I will use to mean those who want a team to win some contest regardless of any feelings than their own, will "naturally" express displeasure without regard to any larger concerns. Although such self-oriented behavior is "understandable" in some sense, it cannot be viewed either as noble nor consciously oriented towards helping the larger good.
Teachers and coaches have greater responsibility, as it is their profession, even their vocation, to consider the development of the individual before their own mindless reactions. We all fail occasionally at this, as we are humans too, and frustration can get pretty onerous. Coach Kelly REALLY cares about many things. The top two of these are the development of the young athletes in his charge as both men and skilled football players; and secondly that the team succeeds [which reduces in the final analysis to the same thing as the first]. Nevertheless, the ripsaw effect between growth-of-team and growth-of-player creates difficult moments. Thus his occasional explosions.
Coach realizes that he shouldn't unconsciously explode at all. Almost every time he rapidly gets hold of himself, grabs the player, and begins to teach. Kelly's a deeply caring guy. I believe that he demonstrates that to the players every day. They know that he's going to act instinctively some times, but that he's got them and the team always in sight and heart, so they, like myself, respect him even knowing that he will blow-up once in a while.
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Agreed!!! i can see being star struck when tommy stepped in for crist and bringing a much needed lift to the team in 10. However, he had four turnovers in the usc game alone if im not mistaken and our defense kept us in that game. Not that i want tommy off the team but, i think the writing was on the wall before the 11 season started.
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A major reason I wouldn't boo a college player is because being a student athlete at a school like ND is probably close to all work all the time. Yes, they are getting a great education paid for, but they are working for it. If they see the field it means they are working hard at both football and school. So why would I boo effort?
CBK is obviously in a different situation. His job is to teach. When he yells, he's not yelling "Boooo, you stink" and then letting the kid go sit on the bench. He's teaching. Obviously some will disagree with the methods, we've been round and round on that, but his yelling doesn't equal fan booing.
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(First off, this is a hypothetical response, it is NOT meant to be directed towards anyone currently on the team.)
I think you meant to say 'yell' instead of 'tell'. But if its BK's coaching style to yell at players in certain situations, then by all means he should do it. Booing a player is disrespecting a player, a coaching yelling at a player is 'football' to me. Yelling at a player to belittle him is not acceptable because its a personal attack; but if the kid continually screws up, especially on the same thing, then the coach is perfectly within his right to yell. if the players dont like to be yelled at, then they should make changes so they dont continually screw up on the same thing, or leave the team. Being a part of the team, any team, is a privledge but for some ppl they just dont see it that way. Some ppl have a sense of entitlement that they deserve to be on the team, and that the team should be happy that the player has agreed to be there. For me, a huge part of playing on a football team is sacrifice and discipline. Those are life skills that you learn on the football field that can be applied in your life after football.
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Man thats it right there...holding up my lighter right now...tried to rep you, but apparently I liked something else you said recently...
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Lmao....
So you're telling me irishpat is the singled out *******? AGAIN?!
like Domina answered before, you don't, under any circumstance boo your own team...
Hell, I was a Colts fan during the Harbaugh days, and the team was terrible, but no one booed them.
So you're telling me irishpat is the singled out *******? AGAIN?!
like Domina answered before, you don't, under any circumstance boo your own team...
Hell, I was a Colts fan during the Harbaugh days, and the team was terrible, but no one booed them.
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Could not agree more with the entire statement especially the bolded portion!
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I don't believe you should boo any player/team unless they are: playing dirty, taking cheap shots, or engaging in obnoxious grandstanding & showboating (see, Miami Hurricanes, late 80s). I'll loudly support my team always, grumble and curse when they are messing up sometimes, but boo and jeer like an unhinged lunatic? Never.