Who's Next? - 2024 Edition

[PutuporShutup]

Jordan Botelho was a HS LB as an example.

His HS played a 3-4 and he was primarily rushing the passer. That's not the same case with burnham, Rezac, kahoun.......... It is similar to Mullins though.

 

[Reaper97]

To be clear, ND wasn’t even in M. Williams top 5 before his unofficial visit.
He didn’t want to visit. His mom & HS coach made him visit, & like many others he loved ND & decided to set up an OV.
But at best, ND was only on his top 3, and PSU was still his leader.
ND never lead, or were even second, the initial visit just put ND in the game.

 

[StPaul_Irish]

the plan is a bunch of undersized white dudes playing all 11 spots on D

So we are playing hockey?

 

[fightingirish26]

To be clear, ND wasn’t even in M. Williams top 5 before his unofficial visit.
He didn’t want to visit. His mom & HS coach made him visit, & like many others he loved ND & decided to set up an OV.
But at best, ND was only on his top 3, and PSU was still his leader.
ND never lead, or were even second, the initial visit just put ND in the game.

So who has been second this whole time if not ND. Every reporter worth their salt had PSU first ND second after the BG game.

 

[InKellyWeTrust]

Can someone give an overview of the 2024 class status? Haven't been following at all.

 

[fightingirish26]

Can someone give an overview of the 2024 class status? Haven't been following at all.

QB - Carr - committed

RB - A. Williams - committed
K. Young - top target
Dupree, X. Robinson, Carrie -secondary targets

WR
C. Williams, Canion, Gilbert - committed

TE
Larsen - committed
Nelson - top target

OL
Jones, Knapp - committed
Lambert, Prescod - top target
Brix - secondary target

DE
Thomas, Mullins, Young - committed
Rushing - top target
M. Williams - secondary target

DT
No commits
Scott, Sevillano - top target

LB
Kahoun, Rezac - committed
Viliamu-Asa, Cole - top target
Shaw, Platt, Huff, Tuakoi, Flowers, House - secondary targets

CB
Moore, Hobbs - committed
Beasley - top target

S
Urlacher - committed
Clusterfuck of names with order of board slightly unclear
Targets include:
B. Johnson, McClain, Gallegos, Lane, Ziglar, Mencke, Andrews, Miles, Robinson, Pruitt

 

[NDPhilly]

Basically looks like we end up in a similar spot as last years class, which isn’t a bad spot to be.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

LOL at the safety breakdown

 

[CanadalovesND]

Can someone give an overview of the 2024 class status? Haven't been following at all.

RBs, looking at Xavier Robinson & Kedren Young, both are power back in the same mold of an Estime. Robinson has an OV in place, same as Young. Young has been to campus before and is coming next weekend, IIRC. Then, there is Anthony Carrie, but he’s not a top priority and is trending elsewhere.

WR- the staff looks to be satisfied with the 3 on board, at this time.

TE- Carter Nelson. Whether or not they definitely want two TEs, they are still recruiting him and I believe an OV is set.

OL- Lambert and Prescod. Prescod is making his third visit to campus, and it is believed that the staff will push for a commitment. Lambert is sort of up in the air. He doesn’t do many interviews, so he’s hard to guage even for the reporters. If he doesn’t visit in June, then I believe he’s not an option. But, if he doesn’t commit anywhere during the summer, likely an OV in the fall.

DL- Justin Scott & Elijah Rushing. Sevillano is already part of the class but just hasn’t made it public yet. After Loghan Thomas’ commitment, the defensive staff has backed off of Mylachi Williams, who was likely a PSU lean anyways.

LB- KVA and Chris Cole. They are still recruiting three star Keyshawn Flowers out of Maryland, but he’s likely just someone they are staying in contact with in case either KVA or Cole go elsewhere.

CB- Kaleb Beasley. OV locked in for the Ohio State game. Only target on the board that they are pushing hard for. I’d say it’s 50/50 that he remains with the Vols.

S - Tons of names, but looks like Brauntae Johnson is tending back to ND. Had some academic hurdles to work through, and by accounts, he has cleared them. But will need to stay on top of it as a senior, or else it could be another Brandyn Hillman situation. Other names: Paul Mencke, Davis Andrews, DaJaun Lane. Mencke I think likes ND a lot and is an excellent student. Visited ND in March/April, and is coming back for an OV. Safety recruiting is likely a first come basis, so if he wants in he’ll need to commit soon to secure a spot. Andrews was high on ND early, and looked like a sure commitment, but has since made a few other trips. UCLa & Utah are the competition. Lane has come back around to ND after trending elsewhere for a bit. He too, is hard to read for the reporters, but the fact he came back to ND for a visit in late April was a good sign.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Jamie U is convinced Urlacher grows into a S/LB hybrid. Would love to see a haul of Gallegos, Lane, Johnson, and Mencke

 

[notredomer23]

Kyle Kelly confirmed that Carrie canceled his OV. So the RB board looks clear: Young or Robinson.

 

[Katzenboyer]

It sounds like ND is moving on from Mylachi because he's already moved on from ND.

 

[Domina Nostra]

Can someone give an overview of the 2024 class status? Haven't been following at all.

Here's my opinion:

If we were done today:
QB: A+ (1 projected difference-maker)
WR: A (1 difference-maker, 1 projected high-level starter + another great piece--although, based on nothing, I can't help seeing Canion flip)
RB: B+ (very solid RB, maybe Diggs level?)
TE: B+ (very solid TE)
OT: C (solid prospect)
OG: C (solid prospect)
DT/NT: C (assuming Sevillano)
WDE: A (2 underrated athlete with high upsides)
SDE: A (1 projected high-level starter)
LB: B (including Rezac, a solid player + athlete with high upside)
SS: C (pretty good athlete with the right attitude, may grow into a LB)
FS: F (nada)
CB: B+ (2 solid prospect)

Where it is trending:
QB: A+ (finished)
WR: A to B+ (if we lose Canion)
RB: A- (likely to add a second, quality prospect)
TE: B+ to A- (possibly getting another ND-type TE)
OT: C to A- (decent recruit, hopeful to land 1-2 more, including some more highly-rated guys)
OG: C to B (decent recruit, likely that another of the current OTs is really an OG)
DT/NT: C to A (project with good traits, assuming Sevillano; trying for another projected high-level starter)
WDE: A to A+ (might add a projected difference maker)
SDE: A
LB: B to A- (trying for another projected high-level starter)
SS: C to B (going after a few solid prospects)
FS: F to B (going after a few solid prospects)
CB: B+ to A+ (going after a real stud)

 

[BleedBlueGold]

It sounds like ND is moving on because M. Williams already has.

Bummer. I liked this kid's upside.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

@Domina Nostra

I believe it was Hit and Hustle that reported Canion's "other OV" comments, right? That doesn't bode well. Also, I don't like to speak this into the universe, but if Canion's path to ND was via Stuckey, what happens if/when Stuckey takes a NFL job? Until then, I'll hold my breath that this all works out and he's a part of this class in the end.

 

[ColinKSU]

Jamie U is convinced Urlacher grows into a S/LB hybrid. Would love to see a haul of Gallegos, Lane, Johnson, and Mencke

I don’t think Urlacher is athletic enough to be a high-end safety or big enough to be a high end LB.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

I don’t think Urlacher is athletic enough to be a high-end safety or big enough to be a high end LB.

I don't recall verbatim what they (Hit and Hustle) had to say regarding Urlacher other than they see him filling a specific role and that's it. Basically agreeing with you that he may not have the traits to be a safety but also may not fully develop into a LB. But he could serve as a hybrid role player. They've mentioned multiple times that the staff should take 4 safeties and not include Urlacher as a part of that number (IIRC)

 

[brewdog_14527]

Here's my opinion:

If we were done today:
QB: A+ (1 projected difference-maker)
WR: A (1 difference-maker, 1 projected high-level starter + another great piece--although, based on nothing, I can't help seeing Canion flip)
RB: B+ (very solid RB, maybe Diggs level?)
TE: B+ (very solid TE)
OT: C (solid prospect)
OG: C (solid prospect)
DT/NT: C (assuming Sevillano)
WDE: A (2 underrated athlete with high upsides)
SDE: A (1 projected high-level starter)
LB: B (including Rezac, a solid player + athlete with high upside)
SS: C (pretty good athlete with the right attitude, may grow into a LB)
FS: F (nada)
CB: B+ (2 solid prospect)

Where it is trending:
QB: A+ (finished)
WR: A to B+ (if we lose Canion)
RB: A- (likely to add a second, quality prospect)
TE: B+ to A- (possibly getting another ND-type TE)
OT: C to A- (decent recruit, hopeful to land 1-2 more, including some more highly-rated guys)
OG: C to B (decent recruit, likely that another of the current OTs is really an OG)
DT/NT: C to A (project with good traits, assuming Sevillano; trying for another projected high-level starter)
WDE: A to A+ (might add a projected difference maker)
SDE: A
LB: B to A- (trying for another projected high-level starter)
SS: C to B (going after a few solid prospects)
FS: F to B (going after a few solid prospects)
CB: B+ to A+ (going after a real stud)

I like how you phrased this, but with regard to Canion and the "if we lose Canion," is there something to that? Or are you just referencing a Georgia kid that blew up after committing to ND?

 

[DONTH8]

Here's my opinion:

RB: B+ (very solid RB, maybe Diggs level?)

I think Williams will be better than Diggs level.

Otherwise, I'd say this is pretty spot on. Good work.

 

[Domina Nostra]

I like how you phrased this, but with regard to Canion and the "if we lose Canion," is there something to that? Or are you just referencing a Georgia kid that blew up after committing to ND?

Georgia WR that is tall, LIGHTENING FAST, and goes to a public school.

If he was another Marist or Westminster kid I’d feel good, but I doubt anyone on his circle would be disappointed if he flipped to an SEC school.

Hope I’m wrong!!!

We should definitely keep recruiting both him and a possible replacement.

 

[Reaper97]

I don’t think Urlacher is athletic enough to be a high-end safety or big enough to be a high end LB.

He is already bigger & more athletic than his dad was at the same age.

 

[Reaper97]

It sounds like ND is moving on from Mylachi because he's already moved on from ND.

No.
ND slowed down their recruitment of him when Loghan Thomas silently committed a while ago.
It was one or the other on ND’s board.

 

[Luckylucci]

I don't recall verbatim what they (Hit and Hustle) had to say regarding Urlacher other than they see him filling a specific role and that's it. Basically agreeing with you that he may not have the traits to be a safety but also may not fully develop into a LB. But he could serve as a hybrid role player. They've mentioned multiple times that the staff should take 4 safeties and not include Urlacher as a part of that number (IIRC)

It'll be interesting to see if/how Carter and to some degree Talich's commitments change the math at S for this cycle. Carter has two years and they plan to compare Talich to other S's this cycle. Likely needing to get him on campus first to do so.

I agree that Urlacher shouldn't be counted as a S. But, if Johnson is legitimate option, I'd be fine with 3 and waiting out the Fall Camp and season for a bit.

 

[NDFAN2008]

No.
ND slowed down their recruitment of him when Loghan Thomas silently committed a while ago.
It was one or the other on ND’s board.

Not sure I agree with that Loy posted an article 5 days ago that stated Notre Dame would love to land Mychali also why only take one? Teams like Texas A&M, Georgia, and Bama take 3-4 guys like Thomas every year.

 

[Katzenboyer]

No.
ND slowed down their recruitment of him when Loghan Thomas silently committed a while ago.
It was one or the other on ND’s board.

They did not. ND very much wants Mylachi, even after Thomas' commitment.

He's just not reciprocating, and he most likely is heading to PSU.

 

[IAIrish]

No.
ND slowed down their recruitment of him when Loghan Thomas silently committed a while ago.
It was one or the other on ND’s board.

I think we're all questioning why they'd turn down or slow play Williams.
I realize the staff knows a heckuva lot more than we do about their board and the prospects on it, but it seems crazy for this guy not to be a take.

 

[ColinKSU]

He is already bigger & more athletic than his dad was at the same age.

Well if he grows four inches in college, then he can be the LB his dad became, because right now he’s a box safety who fits a role that doesn’t have much value in today’s game.

 

[SouthSideChiDomer]

Well if he grows four inches in college, then he can be the LB his dad became, because right now he’s a box safety who fits a role that doesn’t have much value in today’s game.

Hot take: "box safety" types might be some of the most important on the roster. That's something I noticed in that video about Fickell's defense I posted in the Freeman thread. A box safety type would play the overhang position that has run responsibilities from a relatively deep and wide area that also makes them a factor in the passing game.

 

[Irish#1]

I think we're all questioning why they'd turn down or slow play Williams.
I realize the staff knows a heckuva lot more than we do about their board and the prospects on it, but it seems crazy for this guy not to be a take.

Could be that after last year MF and Co. are much better at reading the tea leaves and know when to stop wasting their time recruiting a kid that has indicated you are third or fourth on his dance card.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Could be that after last year MF and Co. are much better at reading the tea leaves and know when to stop wasting their time recruiting a kid that has indicated you are third or fourth on his dance card.

Cough * Justin Scott * Cough