Who's better: Tate or Floyd?

Riddickulous

"That" Guy
Messages
16,866
Reaction score
8,325
The unanswerable question will be answered.

Both of them have their strengths, and both of them have their weaknesses.

Golden Tate is the dynamic, electric player, a threat to take it to the house every down. He has blazing speed, makes quick, precise cuts, and can leave a corner trailing in his wake (i:e, Hawaii). He has great hands (he's made many catches right in-between his defender's hands) and rarely drops the ball. For a relatively little guy (5'11"), he can get very high off the ground. However, Tate still hasn't shown much of a variety as far as route-running is concerned (though this may be a result of the playcalling) and is hit-or-miss when one-on-one in the open field. Clausen does make things easier for Tate, because most of his really good throws end up in Tate's hands.

Michael Floyd is big, strong, and can come down with ANY pass, even with a defender or two hanging all over him (which happens often). He runs clean routes, specifically the out route (one of the most effective plays of 2008), and has deceptive speed. He's one of the best jump ball receivers I've seen in a while. Floyd is also a physical freak, he's completely ripped and his strength shows on the football field, where he often rips through a tackler or two. However, Floyd has trouble holding on to the ball after he rips a ball down from a jump battle, and doesn't have the freak athleticism of Golden Tate (he seems reluctant to lay out for an overthrown pass). Also, Floyd is very often underthrown by Clausen (possibly because Floyd isn't as fast as other receivers and Clausen is under more pressure when he throws the football) and he often has to stop, come back to the ball and battle for the tough catch.

So, who's better?
 

ACamp1900

Counting my ‘bet against ND’ winnings
Messages
48,946
Reaction score
11,225
Okay...

If the game were on the line and we had to throw a deep bomb to win... I would want MF under the ball... that much I know
 

The Polish Irishman

Just your hero
Messages
3,704
Reaction score
287
Hard to compare the two..two totally different players. As stated in the reasons above. I like Tate for the fact whenever he touches the ball, in a flash he could be gone and he break tackles. I love the MSU game on 3rd or 4th down late in the game, he make an unbelievable play breaking tackles to get the first down. Floyd is a beast and will only continue to get better.

You can't stop Tate and you can't cover Floyd.
 

Junkhead

Community Mod
Messages
7,595
Reaction score
1,354
Asaph Schwapp on the go route. Seriously, both have great hands, Tate is faster, Floyd is bigger and stronger. I love them both, in a totally non-homo way.
 

Riddickulous

"That" Guy
Messages
16,866
Reaction score
8,325
Hard to compare the two..two totally different players. As stated in the reasons above. I like Tate for the fact whenever he touches the ball, in a flash he could be gone and he break tackles. I love the MSU game on 3rd or 4th down late in the game, he make an unbelievable play breaking tackles to get the first down. Floyd is a beast and will only continue to get better.

You can't stop Tate and you can't cover Floyd.

That was unbelievable. How Tate managed to keep his feet in-bounds WHILE getting thrown around by a defender is beyond my comprehension.
 

TDHeysus

FLOOR(RAND()*(N-D+1))+D;
Messages
3,315
Reaction score
355
without taking anything away from Tate, because he rocks. But MF is the best WR I've seen at ND, and I say this only after a shortened freshman year.

I see Floyd as everything that Tate is, and more. Much like Tate, when floyd gets the ball, its like I stop breathing for a second, because he could break one at any time.

Tough choice, but I say FLoyd. (its good to be in a position to have choices like this)
 

notredomer23

Staph Member
Messages
17,634
Reaction score
17,557
The sole play on why I am choosing Tate is from the UM game. Tate gets a screen pass, shakes a tackler, and then litterally throws another tackler to the ground before breaking more tackles for like a 50 yard gain
 

no.1IrishFan

Well-known member
Messages
6,279
Reaction score
421
The sole play on why I am choosing Tate is from the UM game. Tate gets a screen pass, shakes a tackler, and then litterally throws another tackler to the ground before breaking more tackles for like a 50 yard gain

I could watch that play all day long. Its almost like he was saying"outta my way bitch" then keeps on truckin. I love it!
Have I mentioned today how much I hate michigan by the way.....aaahhhh that feels better.
 
Last edited:

NDame77

New member
Messages
82
Reaction score
0
I'd go with Tate, from what I've seen he is a more explosive player and he's the one I would want the ball thrown to with the game on the line.
 

Riddickulous

"That" Guy
Messages
16,866
Reaction score
8,325
The sole play on why I am choosing Tate is from the UM game. Tate gets a screen pass, shakes a tackler, and then litterally throws another tackler to the ground before breaking more tackles for like a 50 yard gain

That is just one of many signature Tate plays. Here's a few more:

Michigan State: Catches a ball ten yards short of the first down line, rips away from a tackler, tiptoes along the sideline, cuts across the middle of the field, sheds another tackler, and is finally sandwiched after getting a first down.

Purdue: (2007) Single-handedly keeps Notre Dame competitive, (2008) Makes an incredible catch with a defender's hands entwined with his own.

North Carolina: Dives forward and snatches a pick away from a UNC defender for a long gain. "That's mine, bitch!"

Pittsburgh: Catches a tipped pass for a long gain

Hawaii: Catch #1: Shakes off a defender, dodges another, and runs out of bounds. Catch #2: Screen pass, drives a defender forward and gets the first down. Catch #3: Catches a slant, dodges a defender, jukes another, and is brought down from behind. Catch #4: Long bomb, effortlessly glides past the Hawaii corner for a quick score. Catch #5: Catches a beautiful throw by Clausen. Catch #6: Another effortless go route for a score. His PUNT RETURN, though...He takes the punt, shakes off a defender, just "shoves another to the ground" (as the analyst put it), shook off another two defenders, and cut to the middle of the field for a doomed punt return score.

As you can see, I looooooove Golden Tate (in a totally non-homo way)
 

notredomer23

Staph Member
Messages
17,634
Reaction score
17,557
However, I think Floyd will be more successful in the NFL. Both should have great careers, but MF is really going to be a beast
 

Riddickulous

"That" Guy
Messages
16,866
Reaction score
8,325
The thing I notice about Floyd is...Once he gets the ball for the first time, it seems as if he gets the ball every play...he just gets in a groove so easily.

Floyd is also used as more of a "decoy", his big size draws a lot of attention and opens up more opportunities for Tate and Rudolph.
 

Echo Insanity

New member
Messages
183
Reaction score
10
i think tate might even be a better redzone threat; i just have never seen anyone able to position themselves in relation to the ball, the defender, and the sideline to such perfection.
 
Last edited:

phork

Raining On Your Parade
Messages
9,863
Reaction score
1,019
Thank TD Jesus we have both of them, and more in the stable.
 

IrishInFl

Back in Florida
Messages
5,288
Reaction score
424
I'm not sure, but I do think that both will be 1,000 yard receivers next season.
 

WabashFalcon

Team MVP
Messages
6,722
Reaction score
268
Umm... it's like trying to choose between having sex and eating pie. Hell, I'd love to do both. Both are equally rewarding. Why make me choose!
 

GOLDENISTHYTATE

New member
Messages
414
Reaction score
25
Now I know you guys all know about my love affair with my man Golden, but I don't think this question really can be answered. I think both of them have incredible attributes that together would be the perfect WR, but Randy Moss only comes around ever so often. However, in terms of an offense being able to run a productive passing game, I believe Tate and Floyd are the perfect combination of receivers to push that ball down the field into the endzone.

Tate is the home-run threat, the go-route kill the morale of the secondary receiver. He is blazing quick, is fantastic after the catch with his ability to break and miss tackles, and has the skills to break for the endzone at any time. He is not a polished route runner though and sometimes tries to do too much.

Michael Floyd is the end-zone, crisp route running big, strong receiver. He is 6'3 with incredible upper body strength and an amazing football IQ. He can adjust to balls in the air and can find the soft spot in coverages. He is not blazing fast though and needs to work on yards after the catch.

I'll put it this way. If I am in need of a miracle and a big play, I throw to Tate. If I am in need of a sure thing and need an 8-yard TD or a five-yard first down, I throw to Floyd.
 

Sureal

Ambassador of Good Will
Messages
2,431
Reaction score
316
To me it's Golden Tate... I love the athleticism and the swag. He is going to be a Steve Smith type in the league if he chooses football.
 

IrishInFl

Back in Florida
Messages
5,288
Reaction score
424
Umm... it's like trying to choose between having sex and eating pie. Hell, I'd love to do both. Both are equally rewarding. Why make me choose!

Are you insane? I would choose sex over pie any day!

Bonus question not related to this topic at all! Is Boston cream pie really a pie?
 

GO IRISH!!!

Nashville Livin'!
Messages
3,695
Reaction score
428
Are you insane? I would choose sex over pie any day!

Bonus question not related to this topic at all! Is Boston cream pie really a pie?

Maybe it's more like having to choose french fries over onion rings. They are different, but both are delicious. Why choose when you can order both?

Both of these amazing receivers are on our team. Why pick who is better as long as they both torch defenses all season long?
 
Top