[Vpoll] Marijuana, Weed, Pot

[NDOM]

Ok. So you all know how I stand on this subject. With the whole Michael Phelps thing this past week I wanted to know your thoughts.

Take this little fun fact to mind first:

ANNUAL AMERICAN DEATHS CAUSED BY DRUGS

TOBACCO ........................ 400,000
ALCOHOL ........................ 100,000
ALL LEGAL DRUGS ................ 20,000
ALL ILLEGAL DRUGS .............. 15,000
CAFFEINE ....................... 2,000
ASPIRIN ........................ 500
MARIJUANA ...................... 0
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Source: United States government...
National Institute on Drug Abuse,
Bureau of Mortality Statistics

 

[Steve]

i don't really care either way. i don't do it. i have seen it derail a potential D1 pitcher's career though.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

My first girlfriend, Marijuana Gonzalez, used to grow weeds in a pot. I think it was a science project.

She turned me on to Cracker Jacks (gift inside).

 

[donjuan]

While I agree that it doesn't "kill" so to speak, I've seen it zap many of my old friends motivations and leave them pretty useless. Would I want it more readily available so that more people would be watching late-night adult cartoons, with pastdue bills on the counter? Probably not. Although it now becomes a "how much does it cost to prevent rather than to just legalize it" type argument.

 

[Junkhead]

Ok. So you all know how I stand on this subject. With the whole Michael Phelps thing this past week I wanted to know your thoughts.

Take this little fun fact to mind first:

ANNUAL AMERICAN DEATHS CAUSED BY DRUGS

TOBACCO ........................ 400,000
ALCOHOL ........................ 100,000
ALL LEGAL DRUGS ................ 20,000
ALL ILLEGAL DRUGS .............. 15,000
CAFFEINE ....................... 2,000
ASPIRIN ........................ 500
MARIJUANA ...................... 0
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Source: United States government...
National Institute on Drug Abuse,
Bureau of Mortality Statistics

Zero deaths attributed to marijuana? Serious? There has to be some pothead who burned his house down trying to make pizza rolls at 4am or something. I haven't touched it in 10 years, but it might as well be legalized.

 

[IrishAddiction]

legalize it. tax it. regulate it. i say do it with all drugs..... regulate the content, some drugs are still prescription, some you can buy. people want to ruin their lives, its fine by me. but lets tax them for doing it. hell our government is going to need to come up with that 900 billion to offset the stimulus plan, they are gonna tax everything anyway. either that or print a shitload of money and make the American dollars worth nothing. getting off subject, but yeah legalize it.

 

[GO IRISH!!!]

I don't think that it is a big problem for people that want to do it, but I just...oh, dude my dog is laying there, just staring at me as I type this. What? Do you ever think that your dog is trying to communicate to you telepathically? Sometimes when I'm eating something, my dog just stares at me without blinking for, like, a really long time. Totally freaks me out. Some animal style fries from In & Out would be so good right now. My keyboard is making more noise than usual. Should I be worried about that? I am watching Ren and Stimpy right now and I totally get it because Ren is all bossy and really high strung, but Stimpy is just out to be happy and have a good time and he is good to Ren no matter how mean Ren is to him. I had a mean boss and I tried to just be nice to him no matter what and...wait, what was the question?

 

[NDOM]

I don't think that it is a big problem for people that want to do it, but I just...oh, dude my dog is laying there, just staring at me as I type this. What? Do you ever think that your dog is trying to communicate to you telepathically? Sometimes when I'm eating something, my dog just stares at me without blinking for, like, a really long time. Totally freaks me out. Some animal style fries from In & Out would be so good right now. My keyboard is making more noise than usual. Should I be worried about that? I am watching Ren and Stimpy right now and I totally get it because Ren is all bossy and really high strung, but Stimpy is just out to be happy and have a good time and he is good to Ren no matter how mean Ren is to him. I had a mean boss and I tried to just be nice to him no matter what and...wait, what was the question?

HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT!! LAUGHING OUT FREEKING LOUD! Dude you're STONED!!!!!!

 

[no.1IrishFan]

I don't think that it is a big problem for people that want to do it, but I just...oh, dude my dog is laying there, just staring at me as I type this. What? Do you ever think that your dog is trying to communicate to you telepathically? Sometimes when I'm eating something, my dog just stares at me without blinking for, like, a really long time. Totally freaks me out. Some animal style fries from In & Out would be so good right now. My keyboard is making more noise than usual. Should I be worried about that? I am watching Ren and Stimpy right now and I totally get it because Ren is all bossy and really high strung, but Stimpy is just out to be happy and have a good time and he is good to Ren no matter how mean Ren is to him. I had a mean boss and I tried to just be nice to him no matter what and...wait, what was the question?

LMFAO!!!

I say legalize it. I dont believe that legalizing it would create alot more stoners. I mean this stuff is so easy to get anyway its not like there is a lot of people out there that dont do it now but would if it was legal. If people want to smoke it they are going to, legal or not.
Be honest, even if you dont smoke everyone on this site at least knows where they could get it if they wanted to.

 

[WabashFalcon]

I totally get what we are all talking about... but... Wooahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I'm looking at my hands man... and I just started like... thinking... Eats gingersnap cookie what IS the sound of one hand clapping? Ohhhhh and if they are called like... fingers... then Eats second gingersnap cookie what do they fing?







Dude...

 

[Junkhead]

people want to ruin their lives, its fine by me.

I agree with that mostly, but the problem is....with crack, meth, etc, the junkies (no relation to me) steal, rob, etc when they need a fix. I don't recall hearing about anyone going on a rampage when they run out of weed. Legalize weed, not the rest.

 

[notredomer23]

i think they should make cigarettes illegal...

 

[goldandblue]

i don't really care either way. i don't do it. i have seen it derail a potential D1 pitcher's career though.

I've seen the same thing. But this guy was a potential D1 football player. Kid was 6'1 and about 205 as a sophmore. Over the summer started smoking pot between his sophmore and junior year and didn't even play football his senior year. This kid was an absolute beast on the football field. What a waste.

 

[NDboy15]

Legalize it and then tax the shit out of it.

 

[ACamp1900]

I have been around enough pot heads to know that those who use it preach that it is not addicitive and yet go off the deep end when their source runs dry... claim it's not as bad as other drugs yet often take other drugs (icluding Alcohol) with it... say it does this and that yet all THEY do is sit on their ass and watch opportunity after opportunity pass them by... and claim it is no danger to socitey yet I did work with a social outreach for those who committed felonies while on drugs or alcohol and 90 percent of the fools in the program were on pot at the time of their arrest...

I can't say if I think the drug should be legal or not with absolute certainty... BUT this crap about it being better than this or that and from the earth and such is absolute garbage, people need to grow up

 

[ACamp1900]

Legalize it and then tax the shit out of it.

I tend to agree

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

You never know who is doing what.

 

[no.1IrishFan]

Legalize it and then tax the shit out of it.

Winner winner.........chicken dinner!

 

[AlbuquerqueIrishFan]

Legalize it and then tax the shit out of it.

Exactly! Tax it good. But only legalize weed. I can't see heroin being sold at the local Walgreens.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

Winner winner.........chicken dinner!

lol

I have no involvement in the process... Maybe a beer or two.

But if NDOM successfully kicks a field goal, the vote will be 17 to 10. With time remaining...

 

[MirageSmack]

Wonder how they came up with the zero number. When I was in high school, a kid in town drove under a semi, decapitating himself and seriously injuring his co-pilot. He had just smoked weed, and later it was found to have a hullucinagenic drug mixed in. According to the frined, he was hallucinating, and actually trying to drive under the truck.

Now here's where everyone says he just had bad stuff, and needs to know where it came from. Well, it came from his brother, who attempted suicide later, though failed. So, in a round a bout way, it can kill.

I have a cousin who had a 5 year sentence for growing, and did half the time. He said it was worth it because he made tons of jack in the process, and cnsiders prison part of the deal.

Personally I don't partake, because I think it's all mental. I smoked once, and didn't notice a thing while everyone around me was on the moon. We used to sell 'fake" joints in grade school, made of dried white clover flowers, which smells just like pot. Try it this summer. Of course, everyone got high off those too. Besides, standing on your head gives you quite a rush, and it's free! If you're gonna smoke, I don't mind if it's home grown. When you buy the stuff, it's likely from Mexico. In doing so, you fuel the drugs wars, rapes kidnappings, and murders that go on at our border. That's some heavy stuff to think about just so you can get theoretically high.

Now, back to your bongs friends! I know my scare tactics don't work!

 

[Folsteam_Ahead]

Wonder how they came up with the zero number. When I was in high school, a kid in town drove under a semi, decapitating himself and seriously injuring his co-pilot. He had just smoked weed, and later it was found to have a hullucinagenic drug mixed in. According to the frined, he was hallucinating, and actually trying to drive under the truck.

Now here's where everyone says he just had bad stuff, and needs to know where it came from. Well, it came from his brother, who attempted suicide later, though failed. So, in a round a bout way, it can kill.

I have a cousin who had a 5 year sentence for growing, and did half the time. He said it was worth it because he made tons of jack in the process, and cnsiders prison part of the deal.

Personally I don't partake, because I think it's all mental. I smoked once, and didn't notice a thing while everyone around me was on the moon. We used to sell 'fake" joints in grade school, made of dried white clover flowers, which smells just like pot. Try it this summer. Of course, everyone got high off those too. Besides, standing on your head gives you quite a rush, and it's free! If you're gonna smoke, I don't mind if it's home grown. When you buy the stuff, it's likely from Mexico. In doing so, you fuel the drugs wars, rapes kidnappings, and murders that go on at our border. That's some heavy stuff to think about just so you can get theoretically high.

Now, back to your bongs friends! I know my scare tactics don't work!

the legalization and regulation of the drug trade would help to end the violence you spoke of. also, i too am sure there are deaths related to pot but that's not the issue.

it should be placed on the same level as alcohol in the publics eye. with the same limitations to your freedoms when consumed. many successful people smoke or eat or [insert next generation consumption method] without losing the motivation of a potential DI pitcher or football player. just as many careers in sports have been lost due to alcoholism.

people need to be able to dedicate free time to the use of these mind and mood adjusters. otherwise you have no business using it. young people often have too much time on their hands and aren't good at scheduling appropriate times to use both alcohol and pot.

the only reason i wouldnt encourage anyone to smoke pot is bc it's illegal to possess. take that part of the equation out and it's a whole new story.

 

[GO IRISH!!!]

Not to get all Woody Harrelson and stuff here, but there is a significant other byproduct of legalization that I am very fond of. Outside of the taxation possibilities and the reduction of the "criminal" element, the American farmer would benefit greatly as well. Cannibus has shown to replentish the soil with vital nutrients other cash crops strip away. This would allow the American farmer to rotate cannibus among their other cycles of crops while also gaining additional government subsidies to plant and cultivate the crop.

Furthermore, restrictions and limitations could be imposed by the FDA that would restrict certain, more potent, strains of marijuana and protect some more harmful strains of the drug from entering the publics consumption causing some of the issues other posters have described above. The same laws would most likely apply to marijuana as they do to alcohol - age limits, being under the influence while in public, driving under the influence, etc. You wouldn't have people just blazing up as they walk down the street.

 

[DSully1995]

Interesting issue ahead for NCAA/colleges in Colorado, Washington. Can you suspend a kid for something that's now legal in that state?


from twitter

 

[Jebediah Springfield]

Interesting issue ahead for NCAA/colleges in Colorado, Washington. Can you suspend a kid for something that's now legal in that state?


from twitter

On school grounds maybe for consumption but possession doubt it.

 

[NDdomer2]

Unfortunately it will still be illegal federally and since a team won't play all their games at home it will still be enforced.

 

[irishff1014]

Interesting issue ahead for NCAA/colleges in Colorado, Washington. Can you suspend a kid for something that's now legal in that state?


from twitter

The school can probably make it illegal on the campus.

 

[irishff1014]

Unfortunately it will still be illegal federally and since a team won't play all their games at home it will still be enforced.

Thats correct and from what i understand if you are on an interstate and get pulled over the can charge you for it because you are on a federal roadway.

 

[Jebediah Springfield]

I highly doubt they are going to charging people with a federal crime for having minuscule amounts of herb....

Look at CA... chasing the big boys/criminals etc

 

[NDdomer2]

I highly doubt they are going to charging people with a federal crime for having minuscule amounts of herb....

Look at CA... chasing the big boys/criminals etc

Missing the point. NCAA. First word: National. Until the entire country legalizes it the NCAA will still have it on the banned substances.