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IrishLax

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Is it just me or might they actually match up well with us against the pass?

Scrubio CB + Safety bracket coverage on Floyd all game, Nickell Roby on small-ish TJ Jones, Dion Bailey on Theo Riddick. Or when they go nickel (do they have a 3rd CB?) Dion Bailey on Eifert... might be the first LB we've played who can run with him. We may just have to run the ball down their throats. Jonas Gray is as big/bigger than 2 of their LBs.

Floyd should dominate any DB they have, so you have to think they're going to put two guys on him all game, right?
 

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We will find ways to get Floyd open or we will have great matchups
 

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We will find ways to get Floyd open or we will have great matchups

The thing is, if they are dumb enough to put 160 pound Robey on Floyd we will just throw short to him and let him bulldoze. And if they put whoever their other joker is on Floyd without help he's going to beat him like a rented drum. What scares me is if they they double Floyd because I think they have the athletes to cover Eifert and Robey is very good against smaller guys.
 

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The thing is, if they are dumb enough to put 160 pound Robey on Floyd we will just throw short to him and let him bulldoze. And if they put whoever their other joker is on Floyd without help he's going to beat him like a rented drum. What scares me is if they they double Floyd because I think they have the athletes to cover Eifert and Robey is very good against smaller guys.

This is so cliche, but we'll have to use the run to set up the pass. Make them bring a safety into the box and get 1-on-1 coverage somewhere. Also Kelly has done a good job of lining Floyd up in the slot and getting a mismatch with a LB on quick out routes.

They may match up physically, but we'll see if the elder Kiffin can keep up.
 

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S.Cal Secondary Not Tall

S.Cal Secondary Not Tall

Take a look at the height of S. Cal seconday two of them about 5-8 or 5-9. They will never cover Eifert or Floyd.
 

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Take a look at the height of S. Cal seconday two of them about 5-8 or 5-9. They will never cover Eifert or Floyd.

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The starting corners for the upcoming game are 6' and 5'8" (Robey). Their safeties are 6'3" and 6'1". So how exactly are they small?
 
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The starting corners for the upcoming game are 6' and 5'8" (Robey). Their safeties are 6'3" and 6'1". So how exactly are they small?

This chick about sums it up.....not about you personally, but,ah hell, you figure it out.

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LAX - If Floyd is doubled, who are the "athletes" that you see being able to cover Eifert? Not trying to dog your pov, just trying to clarify what you are seeing.

If we run the ball effectively and get LB's/Saf to at least commit, then we would have Robey on the slot, Floyd doubled and Eifert covered by _____ ?
 

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I am personally worried about TJ Mcdonald picking off a pass or two. He is pretty damn good.
 
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You guys are Negative Nancy-ing the **** out of me tonight...

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LAX - If Floyd is doubled, who are the "athletes" that you see being able to cover Eifert? Not trying to dog your pov, just trying to clarify what you are seeing.

If we run the ball effectively and get LB's/Saf to at least commit, then we would have Robey on the slot, Floyd doubled and Eifert covered by _____ ?

Dion Bailey, the converted safety playing LB. What I'm not sure is who the nickel back that would be covering Theo would be... or would it be a LB or safety... that might be the matchup to exploit. Really just musing outloud on this one.

And as Rack Em said earlier... definitely run to set up the pass. If our OL gets to the second level they are in a world of pain. And if they put Robey on Floyd... holy hell will he get blocked off the field every single play. You're talking about Floyd having 7 inches and 50% more wight than the guy he'd be blocking.
 

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The key to this game is our Dline hitting Barkley.
 

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They couldn't stop Keenan Allen with Zach Maynard at quarterback.
 

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Dion Bailey, the converted safety playing LB. What I'm not sure is who the nickel back that would be covering Theo would be... or would it be a LB or safety... that might be the matchup to exploit. Really just musing outloud on this one.

And as Rack Em said earlier... definitely run to set up the pass. If our OL gets to the second level they are in a world of pain. And if they put Robey on Floyd... holy hell will he get blocked off the field every single play. You're talking about Floyd having 7 inches and 50% more wight than the guy he'd be blocking.

Totally agree with your second paragraph. I hope Tommy and BK have came up with some different switches to get us in that situation.

I think that Dion Bailey is a great player, but he would be mismatched with Eifert. Dion is 6-0/200#, while Eifert is 6-6/249. So Eifert will have a 6"/49# advantage on him. I'll take that all day.
 

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S.Cal Secondary Height

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Okay forgot Anthony Brown 5-9 is injured but with a 5-8 and 6-0 height guys do they match up with 6-3 Floyd or Eifert 6-6.
 

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The funny thing is every single starter for USC this week was at least a 4:s: player on Rivals. Overrated or underdeveloped?
 

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Well, I'm bored and I can't stop thinking about this game... so here's a breakdown of the USC pass defense so far this season on a game-by-game basis.

@ Cal:

The Bad - allowed a shaky Zach Maynard to post 295 yards on 25 completions (43 attempts, 58% completions, 6.8-yard average). Not only did SC allow 12 catches for 160 yards to Keenan Allen, but they also gave up 90 yards on six receptions to Cal's #2 receiver.
The Good - "forced" three interceptions and didn't surrender a score. Rees' decision making will surely be better than Maynard's, but that's not to say Tommy isn't prone to bad mistakes (obviously).
The Interesting - USC's rush defense allowed just 35 yards on 26 carries (for you non-math majors, that's a whopping 1.3 yards per carry). Cal had to throw the ball, and the Trojans knew it.

vs. Arizona:
The Bad - Nick Foles dominated the Trojan secondary in this 48-41 USC victory: 41/53 (77%), 425 yards, 4 touchdowns.
The Good - Foles, however, also completed two passes to the Trojans. That's 5 interceptions for the USC defense in their last two games alone.
The Interesting - Twelve -- count 'em -- TWELVE different players caught at least one pass in the game for 'Zona (9 of the 12 had at least three catches). TEN of those players had receptions of 10 yards or longer. However, the longest pass of the night was just 27 yards.

@ Arizona State:
The Bad - Although ASU did most of their damage on the ground (25 carries, 141 yards, 3 touchdowns for RB Cameron Marshall), the big man Brock Osweiler was an economical 25-of-32 (78%) for 223 yards and 2 touchdowns.
The Good - The secondary limited any really big plays against them; the longest pass completion for ASU was "only" 21 yards. The leading receiver in the game for the Sun Devils also only compiled 55 yards.
The Interesting - Although not as crazy a number as the 12 different receivers in the Arizona game, Osweiler spread the ball around to 8 different teammates. It's also "interesting" to note that the Condoms got stuffed 43-22 in their only loss of the season thus far.

vs. Syracuse:
The Bad - USC allowed 26 of 38 passes to be completed (68%) for 260 yards and 2 touchdowns. They also did not come away with an interception.
The Good - The game was largely in hand at 24-3 in the 3rd quarter before 'Cuse started mounting some semblance of offensive effectiveness.
The Interesting - I saw Syracuse play in person against Rutgers a couple weeks ago. It took 60 minutes plus two overtimes for the Orange to put 16 points on the board in that game. In short, they are not a very good team (despite their 4-2 record, including a win over Wake Forest). Take a look at their results if you don't believe me.

vs. Utah:
The Bad - The experienced Jordan Wynn completed only 50% of his 46 passes, but USC still allowed 240 yards and a touchdown through the air while registering zero interceptions.
The Good - Half of the passes attempted resulted in incompletions. They only allowed the one TD through the air in a game that the defense had to win.
The Interesting - Outside of a single Utah carry for 51 yards, the Utes' run game was non-existent. It's hard to pass when your feature back is gaining only 2.8 ypc. Also, from ESPN, "Matt Kalil blocked Utah's 41-yard field goal attempt [which would have tied the game] on the final play and Torin Harris returned it for a touchdown that wasn't counted until two hours after the game ended."

vs. Minnesota
The Bad - Notre Dame beat Purdue (38-10), who beat Minnesota (45-17), who only lost to USC by the score of 19-17. This has nothing to do with USC's pass defense, but those numbers are startling if you're a Trojan fan, and encouraging for all those Irish. Forget The Good, The Interesting, and the stats... this was nearly an absolute embarrassment for USC (if you didn't know, Minnesota is 1-5 and one of the worst teams in the country).

tl;dr - In USC's last four games, they have allowed 1,201 yards through the air on a combined 117-of-166 (70.5%) passing. Those numbers include 8 touchdowns and 5 inteceptions. All of those interceptions, however, have come in the last two contests.

You can talk about star ratings, athleticism, size, etc. all you want, but the sheer numbers have shown that USC simply is not very good against the pass. If the Irish can establish at least a decent ground game and Tommy Rees throws the ball only to his teammates, then I don't see how the Trojans can match up with our offensive attack.
 
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If anyone knows how 4:s: talent can underperform on defense, it's ND. USC is poorly coached and injury ravaged.

USC is 59th in pass defense and 65th on passing downs. ND is 13th in passing offense and 3rd on passing downs. We match up plenty well against USC.
 
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Well, I'm bored and I can't stop thinking about this game... so here's a breakdown of the USC pass defense so far this season on a game-by-game basis.

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tl;dr - In USC's last four games, they have allowed 1,201 yards through the air on a combined 117-of-166 (70.5%) passing. Those numbers include 8 touchdowns and 5 inteceptions. All of those interceptions, however, have come in the last two contests.

You can talk about star ratings, athleticism, size, etc. all you want, but the sheer numbers have shown that USC simply is not very good against the pass. If the Irish can establish at least a decent ground game and Tommy Rees throws the ball only to his teammates, then I don't see how the Trojans can match up with our offensive attack.

Nice breakdown on their past games!
 

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This game will be won up front. Our O-line will open holes and protect Tommy. If this happens, our guys will be open. Run the football, make the right reads, all should end well.
 

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USC can not defend ND straight up. Monte knows this. They will try to confuse Rees and make him uncomfortable like Pitt did.
 

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I am personally worried about TJ Mcdonald picking off a pass or two. He is pretty damn good.

TJ sucks in coverage. He's Taylor Mays 2.0. Huge hitter, very athletic (although not nearly is big), suspect in coverage. HIs 2 INTs that one game were thrown straight to him. Trust me on this one...he's a liability in coverage.

Dion Bailey, the converted safety playing LB. What I'm not sure is who the nickel back that would be covering Theo would be... or would it be a LB or safety... that might be the matchup to exploit. Really just musing outloud on this one.

If they want to go on Bailey against him, that's fine. He'll get eaten alive in the run game, and against the pass, you post him up and use his lack of size against him.
 
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