UFOs, Paranormal, Pseudoscience Thread

[FDNYIrish1]

I'm as certain of there being nothing supernatural in this world as I am of anything. I'm very much a rationalist and scientific thinker... and no, I don't believe in miracles.

And yet you believe Bama has been on the level all these years.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Do you think whatever sound you heard, did in fact happen, we humans in our current state just can't rationally or scientifically explain it yet?

I'm certain the sound happened (I wasn't the only one to hear it). I don't believe for a second that there was anything supernatural or paranormal involved. I think there was absolutely a normal cause of the sound. I just never found the source or figured out what it was.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Cool channel to watch but so many of the stuff he shows now looks real fake.

“Is it real or just an elaborate hoax? You decide.”

 

[Lberry]

Don’t mean to be nosy but was curious too. Maybe this is it? Long.

Have a dumb question. This video is almost 6 hours long and I don't use YouTube much.

Is there a way to save/pin where you leave off, so it doesn't start over everytime you close the browser?

 

[Bishop2b5]

Have a dumb question. This video is almost 6 hours long and I don't use YouTube much.

Is there a way to save/pin where you leave off, so it doesn't start over everytime you close the browser?

Yes. I know of two ways. First, when you want to stop and save the video at that point, right click in the middle of the video screen and a menu will pop up. Select "Copy video url at current time" and just email that url to yourself or save it however you want.

The second method starts the same way: right click the video and copy the url at current time, but then add the video to your saved favorites. Then go into your saved favorites and edit the url you just saved by replacing it with the "at the current time" link you copied. When you want to continue watching the video where you left off, click that link you just saved and edited in Favorites and it will open the video where you left off.

 

[Lberry]

Yes. I know of two ways. First, when you want to stop and save the video at that point, right click in the middle of the video screen and a menu will pop up. Select "Copy video url at current time" and just email that url to yourself or save it however you want.

The second method starts the same way: right click the video and copy the url at current time, but then add the video to your saved favorites. Then go into your saved favorites and edit the url you just saved by replacing it with the "at the current time" link you copied. When you want to continue watching the video where you left off, click that link you just saved and edited in Favorites and it will open the video where you left off.

Thanks. That did work. Coincidentally I also discovered it on podcast form if anyone's curiois

 

[FDNYIrish1]

Thanks. That did work. Coincidentally I also discovered it on podcast form if anyone's curiois

Also put the podcast on 1.5x speed.

 

[Lberry]

This Colonel John Alexander episode is fascinating and no parts boring.

 

[IrishLion]

This Colonel John Alexander episode is fascinating and no parts boring.

I’d imaging you listen to all of the Joe Rogan UFO/military episodes?

Rogan could do one of those every day, rehashing shit we’ve already heard, and I’d still listen to his guests without issue.

 

[Lberry]

I’d imaging you listen to all of the Joe Rogan UFO/military episodes?

Rogan could do one of those every day, rehashing shit we’ve already heard, and I’d still listen to his guests without issue.

I haven't listened to Rogan in a while, but have heard Bob Lazar, the Navy Commander (can never recall his name), and maybe one other. But haven't plugged into JRE in a year or so. Is there a recent one?

 

[IrishLion]

I haven't listened to Rogan in a while, but have heard Bob Lazar, the Navy Commander (can never recall his name), and maybe one other. But haven't plugged into JRE in a year or so. Is there a recent one?

He’s had Jeremy Corbell on a few times now, outside of the Bob Lazar episode, as well as a recent one with a Professor of Theology that has visited UFO crash sites (allegedly), and believes God can be found in our alien visitors (or something like that, I was distracted through most of that one and need to listen again; she believes many bible passages about angels could actually be about aliens and UFO’s based on description, but doesn’t necessarily believe that means aliens and angels are different entities… God’s angels could very well be interstellar visitors sent by a higher power to guide us.)

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

He’s had Jeremy Corbell on a few times now, outside of the Bob Lazar episode, as well as a recent one with a Professor of Theology that has visited UFO crash sites (allegedly), and believes God can be found in our alien visitors (or something like that, I was distracted through most of that one and need to listen again; she believes many bible passages about angels could actually be about aliens and UFO’s based on description, but doesn’t necessarily believe that means aliens and angels are different entities… God’s angels could very well be interstellar visitors sent by a higher power to guide us.)

If you actually read the descriptions of the angels in the bible..... aliens is absolutely a viable explanation.

 

[IrishLion]

If you actually read the descriptions of the angels in the bible..... aliens is absolutely a viable explanation.

Burning wheels of gold with wings, that glow and emit fire? Entities with vaguely humanoid characteristics that inspire fear, but show up to help? Not sure if ET and his ship, or Michael the Archangel

The Bible is pretty hardcore. And the fact that historical texts and art support similar ideas and descriptions, not just rehashing the bible, but illustrating separate but similar experiences... pretty compelling

 

[Lberry]

If you actually read the descriptions of the angels in the bible..... aliens is absolutely a viable explanation.

Yes. IMO it's likely some (all?) aliens are fallen angels, or Nephilim if you will. They came down against God's will and it's all over the Bible but few are aware or take it seriously.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Burning wheels of gold with wings, that glow and emit fire? Entities with vaguely humanoid characteristics that inspire fear, but show up to help? Not sure if ET and his ship, or Michael the Archangel

The Bible is pretty hardcore. And the fact that historical texts and art support similar ideas and descriptions, not just rehashing the bible, but illustrating separate but similar experiences... pretty compelling

The Thrones, Cherubs and Seraphim are 100% other worldly objects clearly described in Ezikiel (I think).

The Seraphs are the closest we get to what an angel is typically depicted but even then the descriptions provided in the Bible are wild with 2-3 pairs of wings and humanoid features. The choir of angels can be found in Judaism and repurposed in Christianity.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Yes. IMO it's likely some (all?) aliens are fallen angels, or Nephilim if you will. They came down against God's will and it's all over the Bible but few are aware or take it seriously.

Eh.... Im not going to get debunky here but its the height of arrogance to suggest that aliens are fallen angels of a specific religion that arose on speck of dust in the vastness of the cosmos.... lol More like humans do what they are good at throughout history and fit the unexplainable into something they can attempt to understand.

 

[Lberry]

Eh.... Im not going to get debunky here but its the height of arrogance to suggest that aliens are fallen angels of a specific religion that arose on speck of dust in the vastness of the cosmos.... lol More like humans do what they are good at throughout history and fit the unexplainable into something they can attempt to understand.

Genesis 6 is pretty clear fallen Angels came down to mate with women and produce "unclean" off spring. I think it's highly likely (through lots of various books that all box in the same possibility) that those are at least one faction of "Aliens".

Are there more than have nothing to do with that faction, certainly possible. I also think it's possible the Bible is just for us, and there were other "Bibles" for those before us, or perhaps outside of our galaxy or whatever you want to call it.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Genesis 6 is pretty clear fallen Angels came down to mate with women and produce "unclean" off spring. I think it's highly likely (through lots of various books that all box in the same possibility) that those are at least one faction of "Aliens".

Are there more than have nothing to do with that faction, certainly possible. I also think it's possible the Bible is just for us, and there were other "Bibles" for those before us, or perhaps outside of our galaxy or whatever you want to call it.

The fact that Genesis 6 says this doesnt mean its true. Genesis also has multiple contradictions on the creation story, and is in fact widely believed to be a pre-jewish (probably Sumerian) myth based on other myths extant at the time that was repurposed and adapted into other cultures. Even most Jewish scholars know that Genesis is mythological, compiled, edited and repurposed from other earlier sources and not historically accurate or historically believable.

If early people in the Middle East (with no way to know of or understand the vastness of the cosmos or their place in it) saw aliens, the most plausible explanation is that they saw the aliens, not knowing what they were and added it to their cultural mythologies and attributed it to what humans have always explained the unexplainable with... their religions.

 

[Lberry]

The fact that Genesis 6 says this doesnt mean its true. Genesis also has multiple contradictions on the creation story, and is in fact widely believed to be a pre-jewish (probably Sumerian) myth based on other myths extant at the time that was repurposed and adapted into other cultures. Even most Jewish scholars know that Genesis is mythological, compiled, edited and repurposed from other earlier sources and not historically accurate or historically believable.

If early people in the Middle East (with no way to know of or understand the vastness of the cosmos or their place in it) saw aliens, the most plausible explanation is that they saw the aliens, not knowing what they were and added it to their cultural mythologies and attributed it to what humans have always explained the unexplainable with... their religions.

You may be right but you're drawing the conclusion that the Bible is wrong and/or contradicting and I don't believe that. If I've learned anything in the past 4 years, it's that I don't care what "most people believe".

Our historians are looking dumber and dumber each year as people step outside of "academia" or the lettered agencies to dig where you're not supposed to dig. So I think we don't know squat. Again you may be right to some degree, but no one knows.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

You may be right but you're drawing the conclusion that the Bible is wrong and/or contradicting and I don't believe that. If I've learned anything in the past 4 years, it's that I don't care what "most people believe".

Our historians are looking dumber and dumber each year as people step outside of "academia" or the lettered agencies to dig where you're not supposed to dig. So I think we don't know squat. Again you may be right to some degree, but no one knows.

The Bible contradicts itself millions of time. Its literally internally inconsistent as written and and can be shown to be written by many people at different times, and has been heavily edited and compiled over a thousand years. It also depends on what version and translation you adhere to. I suspect you are KJV guy. You believe what you want. Thats your perogative.

 

[Lberry]

The Bible contradicts itself millions of time. Its lieterally internally inconsistent as written and compiled and depending on what version and translation you adhere to. I suspect you are KJV guy. You believe what you want. Thats your perogative. And we are done.

Sure, ok, sounds good.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Sure, ok, sounds good.

Contradictions in the Bible

Identified verse by verse and explained using the most up-to-date scholarly information about the Bible, its texts, and the men who wrote them -- by Dr. Steven DiMattei

contradictionsinthebible.com

Here you go its just a start and quite the rabbit hole.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7o-UFkoAPCoKxpKOfrs4zQ

This is by far my favorite youtube channel of all time. You can start with Who wrote the Bible (spoiler it wasnt God) and The Histomap of religions. You can literally watch religions evolve from others over time.

If you want a true DEEEEEEEEPPPPPPPP Dive into Judeo-Christian apocalyptical magi writings, origins of gods and demonology.... this is your guy.

ESOTERICA

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[Cackalacky2.0]

I always have a pen with me just for this reason.

 

[GATTACA!]

Have a dumb question. This video is almost 6 hours long and I don't use YouTube much.

Is there a way to save/pin where you leave off, so it doesn't start over everytime you close the browser?

If you’re logged into YouTube it should do it automatically.

 

[INLaw]

Koon’s mind works in amazing ways. Is amazing the right word?

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Koon’s mind works in amazing ways. Is amazing the right word?

You should revist the timeshare thread.

 

[INLaw]

You should revist the timeshare thread.

I lived it when it was happening. Its like asking me to revisit my first marriage.

 

[Sea Turtle]

The Bible contradicts itself millions of time. Its literally internally inconsistent as written and and can be shown to be written by many people at different times, and has been heavily edited and compiled over a thousand years. It also depends on what version and translation you adhere to. I suspect you are KJV guy. You believe what you want. Thats your perogative.

You must be a hit at parties 😀

 

[Irish#1]

Koon’s mind works in amazing ways. Is amazing the right word?

Amazing is okay. After all, a volcanic eruption is amazing. It's not good, but still amazing.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

You must be a hit at parties 😀

I'm pretty fun. I get after it when I can.