Trump Presidency

[Legacy]

Michigan man facing felony charges for voter fraud, AG says
Updated Nov 13, 2020; Posted Nov 13, 2020

Other incidences are also noted, including a man who owned apartments who said he gathered up those ballots mailed to those residences and voted for them. AG office followed up and dismissed the potential felony because the man said he just wanted to stir things up and lied about it.

Five cease and desist letters were issued to Democratic and Republican groups, according to the Attorney General’s office. One letter was issued to Big League Politics for posting “misleading and deceptive information” alleging Detroit poll workers were “trained to commit illegal acts while counting ballots.”

“These are important examples of our commitment to review, investigate and prosecute – if appropriate – any allegation of election fraud,” (Attorney General Dana ) Nessel said. “By working with our partners in law enforcement and government at all levels, we will ensure the integrity of our elections is protected and the results accurately reflect the will of the people.”

 

[bobbyok1]

Yeah, sorry. I'd like you to address what was brought up in posts #27667 through #27670 before you continue spamming this thread with videos.

Do you have any response to the multiple people, including myself, that pointed out the factual errors in your post about voting patterns in the cities you listed? Are you willing to acknowledge that what you posted was veritably false?

If indeed there was factual errors in my post, then so be it. How was what Im posted verifiable false?

If indeed false, feel free to disregard them. And yet, I am pretty sure the question I asked was never addressed fully either. It is not as if the info you provided was overwhelmingly convincing. And what the others posted were simply googling the issue and copying and pasting the first items biased Google showed them. The articles were not at all convincing.

So others can post "spam" as you call my post, and those post are somehow factual evidence. But something I post is "spam."

What do you say to the fact that election counting was stopped in the key swing states cities of Atlanta, Philadelphia, Detroit, and Milwaukee? This was all completely normal and totally on the up and up? What about the computer irregularities across the country? Nothing to see there, right?

So how does this work? Only questions you or others ask must be answered but not questions I ask? Let me guess, your next move is to go the route of social media censoring people you disagree with? Is Irish Envy the new Facebook and YouTube, censoring/silencing those they disagree with?

 

[TorontoGold]

If indeed there was factual errors in my post, then so be it. Feel free to disregard them. And yet, I am pretty sure the question I asked was never addressed fully either. It is not as if the info you provided was overwhelmingly convincing. And what the others posted were simply googling the issue and copying and pasting the first items biased Google showed them. The articles were not at all convincing.

So others can post "spam" as you call my post, and those post are somehow factual evidence. But something I post is "spam."

What do you say to the fact that election counting was stopped in the key swing states cities of Atlanta, Philadelphia, Detroit, and Milwaukee? This was all completely normal and totally on the up and up? What about the computer irregularities across the country? Nothing to see there, right?

So how does this work? Only questions you or others ask must be answered but not questions I ask? Let me guess, your next move is to go the route of social media censoring people you disagree with? Is Irish Envy the new Facebook and YouTube, censoring/silencing those they disagree with?

Do you know how Cookies work? If anything, you get shown what's in your own "tunnel" so if you're results are crackpot conspiracies then that's on you.

What do you mean "stopped counting"?

Social media sites have done a poor job of censoring tbh, it takes 5 min to find totally deranged groups. Because you have freedom of speech does not mean you are sheltered from criticism.

I can say "I TorontoGold, have created water, and I believe that Brian Kelly is in fact from Malaysia" and then I would get my posts removed because that is straight up false. Posting with a guy who's disgraced himself as being the creator of email and other laughable claims is not on the same level as actual sourced reporting.

 

[NorthDakota]

Do you know how Cookies work? If anything, you get shown what's in your own "tunnel" so if you're results are crackpot conspiracies then that's on you.

What do you mean "stopped counting"?

Social media sites have done a poor job of censoring tbh, it takes 5 min to find totally deranged groups. Because you have freedom of speech does not mean you are sheltered from criticism.

I can say "I TorontoGold, have created water, and I believe that Brian Kelly is in fact from Malaysia" and then I would get my posts removed because that is straight up false. Posting with a guy who's disgraced himself as being the creator of email and other laughable claims is not on the same level as actual sourced reporting.

Social media shouldn't be censoring much of anything.

These same platforms allow dictators, holocaust deniers, etc. to have a voice. If they get a voice, then everyone gets a voice. If they arent going to apply their rules evenly (they dont), then don't have the rules period. Its not difficult.

 

[TorontoGold]

Social media shouldn't be censoring much of anything.

These same platforms allow dictators, holocaust deniers, etc. to have a voice. If they get a voice, then everyone gets a voice. If they arent going to apply their rules evenly (they dont), then don't have the rules period. Its not difficult.

Exactly. They've let nutjobs say ridiculous shit for so long. Now any sort of moderating makes them look like they've picked a side in it.

I saw a tweet that was like "Facebook has turned our parents into what they thought video games would do to us". Couldn't be more right.

 

[NorthDakota]

Exactly. They've let nutjobs say ridiculous shit for so long. Now any sort of moderating makes them look like they've picked a side in it.

I saw a tweet that was like "Facebook has turned our parents into what they thought video games would do to us". Couldn't be more right.

I catch my mom watching dumb shit on Facebook from time to time. My brother in law and me had to sit her down and tell her about the bad people on Facebook lmaoo

 

[TorontoGold]

I catch my mom watching dumb shit on Facebook from time to time. My brother in law and me had to sit her down and tell her about the bad people on Facebook lmaoo

lol my one uncle was saying that Trudeau is part of this secret muslim cabal and is also somehow Castro's child.

 

[Legacy]

If indeed there was factual errors in my post, then so be it. How was what Im posted verifiable false?

If indeed false, feel free to disregard them. And yet, I am pretty sure the question I asked was never addressed fully either. It is not as if the info you provided was overwhelmingly convincing. And what the others posted were simply googling the issue and copying and pasting the first items biased Google showed them. The articles were not at all convincing.

So others can post "spam" as you call my post, and those post are somehow factual evidence. But something I post is "spam."

What do you say to the fact that election counting was stopped in the key swing states cities of Atlanta, Philadelphia, Detroit, and Milwaukee? This was all completely normal and totally on the up and up? What about the computer irregularities across the country? Nothing to see there, right?

So how does this work? Only questions you or others ask must be answered but not questions I ask? Let me guess, your next move is to go the route of social media censoring people you disagree with? Is Irish Envy the new Facebook and YouTube, censoring/silencing those they disagree with?

What in your post is verifiably true? All these allegations that have been brought to court have been thrown out for lack of evidence. IE is a place to exchange views and present your facts.

I addressed your "computer irregularities" point. It's verifiably false, my man. Your question about stopping vote tallying was also addressed as cities dealt with the crush of millions more votes that needed tabulating and verifying and all with observers.

If you don't trust the courts and the integrity of electoral processes, I imagine you and many others will carry that attitude over to future elections. Do you not trust the all mail-in voting in Colorado? Having the apparatus and system to process with verification in place with counting beginning before Election Day makes tabulation much swifter. All the battleground states except Arizona did not allow counting to begin until after Nov 3. So it took longer in Michigan. Pennsylvania and Georgia. "Stop the Vote"??

 

[Irish YJ]

I catch my mom watching dumb shit on Facebook from time to time. My brother in law and me had to sit her down and tell her about the bad people on Facebook lmaoo

I rue the day I bought my mother a new IPhone and set her Facebook up on it. Had to be borderline mean last year telling her to stop sending me stupid shit. I still have to go all intervention sometimes when she brings crap up. So glad I got off FB years ago.

 

[NorthDakota]

lol my one uncle was saying that Trudeau is part of this secret muslim cabal and is also somehow Castro's child.

Tell him to dm me. I am all about it.

 

[IrishLax]

If indeed there was factual errors in my post, then so be it. How was what Im posted verifiable false?

Multiple people literally walked you through how what you said was inaccurate and easily fact checked. The turnout numbers are not what you claimed them to be; the margins in the cities you talked about are not what you claimed them to be; and the entire narrative you presented is easily fact checked as false with hard numbers. There is no reason to rehash it when you can go read it all there.

So how does this work? Only questions you or others ask must be answered but not questions I ask? Let me guess, your next move is to go the route of social media censoring people you disagree with? Is Irish Envy the new Facebook and YouTube, censoring/silencing those they disagree with?

It's pretty simple. If you claim 2+2=5, and a bunch of people take the time to show you that it doesn't, and you completely ignore that and refuse to deal in facts then you can't be taken seriously. You're just trolling then.

I'd like you take a look at those posts, and acknowledge that you are spreading verifiably incorrect information about vote totals and voter turnout. If you're willing to say "I've read the information provided, and I'm sorry for posting incorrect information about voting numbers in Philadelphia and elsewhere" then I'll accept that you're posting in good faith.

Otherwise, go post on Parler.

 

[IrishLax]

Social media shouldn't be censoring much of anything.

These same platforms allow dictators, holocaust deniers, etc. to have a voice. If they get a voice, then everyone gets a voice. If they arent going to apply their rules evenly (they dont), then don't have the rules period. Its not difficult.

Almost all major American corporations -- but especially Big Tech -- are crazy hypocritical. I lost my fucking mind over the NBA cowardice involving China. Big Tech does something like that on a daily basis... they have no issue giving a mouthpiece to brutal dictators and racists worldwide, but then have different rules for Americans.

 

[Irish#1]

I rue the day I bought my mother a new IPhone and set her Facebook up on it. Had to be borderline mean last year telling her to stop sending me stupid shit. I still have to go all intervention sometimes when she brings crap up. So glad I got off FB years ago.

Every night I sit and wonder what you're having for dinner. I used to love it when you shared that with us.

 

[Irish#1]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tonight I’m calling for the eventual prosecution of donald trump and his enablers for their many crimes against the United States. <a href="https://t.co/LJGvzLqQ35">pic.twitter.com/LJGvzLqQ35</a></p>— Bill Pascrell, Jr. (@BillPascrell) <a href="https://twitter.com/BillPascrell/status/1328872814548557824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Trump and worst enablers must be tried for crimes against our nation and Constitution.

 

[NorthDakota]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tonight I’m calling for the eventual prosecution of donald trump and his enablers for their many crimes against the United States. <a href="https://t.co/LJGvzLqQ35">pic.twitter.com/LJGvzLqQ35</a></p>— Bill Pascrell, Jr. (@BillPascrell) <a href="https://twitter.com/BillPascrell/status/1328872814548557824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It's garbage like this that just makes me giggle. Dude wants to normalize investigating people for being members of the wrong political party.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Almost all major American corporations -- but especially Big Tech -- are crazy hypocritical. I lost my fucking mind over the NBA cowardice involving China. Big Tech does something like that on a daily basis... they have no issue giving a mouthpiece to brutal dictators and racists worldwide, but then have different rules for Americans.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but yesterday didn't Zuckerberg admit to blocking the Hunter Biden story on purpose???

 

[arahop]

Some more real world news for ya. Now go run and hide for a few days, because that's what you do when presented with stuff you don't like:

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/politics...tates-office-says/5W734FA755CK3NCR4P7A27DXVM/
More votes were just magically "discovered."

https://www.freep.com/story/news/lo...yne-county-election-certification/6309668002/
They had to STRIKE A DEAL to certify the election results here.

Ilhan Omar just compared MAGA rallies to Klan rallies.

A black, female Trump supporter was physically assaulted (while pushing her child in a stroller) by BLM this week. Catch the irony there if you can.

Local news stories..... Ok
If that's the best you got.. that's the best ya got.

 

[NEIIrish]

Multiple people literally walked you through how what you said was inaccurate and easily fact checked. The turnout numbers are not what you claimed them to be; the margins in the cities you talked about are not what you claimed them to be; and the entire narrative you presented is easily fact checked as false with hard numbers. There is no reason to rehash it when you can go read it all there.



It's pretty simple. If you claim 2+2=5, and a bunch of people take the time to show you that it doesn't, and you completely ignore that and refuse to deal in facts then you can't be taken seriously. You're just trolling then.

I'd like you take a look at those posts, and acknowledge that you are spreading verifiably incorrect information about vote totals and voter turnout. If you're willing to say "I've read the information provided, and I'm sorry for posting incorrect information about voting numbers in Philadelphia and elsewhere" then I'll accept that you're posting in good faith.

Otherwise, go post on Parler.

You posted an about Philly turnout being wrong on his post but I didn’t see anything about the others. Plus the other posts you referenced didn’t have anything to do with the cities he referenced did they? I’m 6 ipas into the night and could be foggy but maybe it’s worthwhile

 

[NorthDakota]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but yesterday didn't Zuckerberg admit to blocking the Hunter Biden story on purpose???

That seems to be consistent with the point Lax, toronto, and myself made.

I hate the idea of most regulation, particularly over something as dumb as social media. But...well.. they have really silly rules that sound great in theory but A.) Can't be applied evenly, and B.) They have no interest in applying them evenly.

I hope they get busted up or regulated. It's deeply unfair for say...Alex Jones to get banned for goofy insane theories while the fucking Ayatollah and guys like Louis Farrakhan are alllwed on there.

Is it their website? Yep, sure, all the standard "if you don't like it then don't use it" talking points. The fun thing about left and right is that once in awhile, they do agree on things and I think fucking up facebook/twitter might a nice "unity" moment for Americans.

 

[TorontoGold]

That seems to be consistent with the point Lax, toronto, and myself made.

I hate the idea of most regulation, particularly over something as dumb as social media. But...well.. they have really silly rules that sound great in theory but A.) Can't be applied evenly, and B.) They have no interest in applying them evenly.

I hope they get busted up or regulated. It's deeply unfair for say...Alex Jones to get banned for goofy insane theories while the fucking Ayatollah and guys like Louis Farrakhan are alllwed on there.

Is it their website? Yep, sure, all the standard "if you don't like it then don't use it" talking points. The fun thing about left and right is that once in awhile, they do agree on things and I think fucking up facebook/twitter might a nice "unity" moment for Americans.

Yeah they really started off on the wrong foot by not applying their standards evenly. Especially with the death threat stuff, I see it all the time in the Hockey Twitter circles.

Also the whole surveillance aspect of it is wild too.

Ps. Alex Jones should be shot into the sun.

 

[IrishLax]

You posted an about Philly turnout being wrong on his post but I didn’t see anything about the others. Plus the other posts you referenced didn’t have anything to do with the cities he referenced did they? I’m 6 ipas into the night and could be foggy but maybe it’s worthwhile

#27669 lists a dozen cities that refute his one claim. I took the time to pull the info for Philly as an example, the same can be done for each of the four cities he cited.

Fulton County (I.e. Atlanta) = 520k votes / 808k registered voters = 64% turnout not 90%+
Wayne County (I.e. Detroit) = 62% turnout in the county, 50% turnout in Detroit. Both less than the statewide 68% turnout and nowhere close to 90%+
Milwaukee = 80% turnout, still nowhere close to the proclaimed 90%+

People are entitled to their opinions on the process, and Trump is entitled to his day in court. But I don’t think it’s productive for someone to just make up numbers, especially when they can be so easily checked with publicly available data.

 

[Irish#1]

Looks like Keith Olbermann has jumped into the world of craziness.

Keith Olbermann wants Trump 'REMOVED AND ARRESTED,' calls president's 69M voters 'morons'

Former MSNBC host Keith Olbermann sounded off against President Trump amid the contentious ballot count following the 2020 presidential election.

"TRUMP MUST BE REMOVED AND ARRESTED, TONIGHT," Olbermann declared on Twitter. "Gripped by a paranoid delusion, threatening the nation's safety, this can't wait any longer."

Olbermann, who recently left ESPN to launch his own anti-Trump YouTube channel, began his latest episode on Thursday by mocking "President Karen" for "yelling at the manager" over the Trump campaign's claims of election fraud in various states."

"The bad news is, I think the lame-duck president is now pivoting to Trump 2024," Olbermann said before citing a recent New York Times report alleging President Trump was floating another run for the White House if he's defeated this time. "When it's finally over, he utters this breathless sentence, 'I concede and I'm running for president in 2024. The rallies start next Friday.'"

Olbermann then not only attacked the president but Trump's supporters as well. "Trump can still live in a version of the bubble that he and the 69 million morons who voted for him have lived in since 2015," he said. "Inside Trump World, it's fun and exciting and there's no pandemic and nothing but White people and lots of guns and everybody will be a billionaire soon!"

He went on to predict Trump and his supporters would "form their own grudge-driven anti-government," where they can say, "Biden's lying, Biden's Chinese, Biden's a robot."

 

[Bishop2b5]

He went on to predict Trump and his supporters would "form their own grudge-driven anti-government," where they can say, "Biden's lying, Biden's Chinese, Biden's a robot."

Which would be totally different from, oh, hmm, let's say, uh, well, umm, a grudge-driven anti-government from the Left where they spend four years saying, "Trump's lying, Trump's Russian, Trump's a pawn."

 

[Legacy]

Certainly, there is a lot of emotion (and Trump's personality) driving these lawsuits and protests. Perhaps a drive for money, too.

But the math is clear - just not to the Trumpers? Conceding that Arizona and Nevada are Biden wins - where Trump has withdrawn legal challenges - his only path to 270 is if he wins Michigan, Wisconsin, and Georgia.

Take away one of those and Biden is over 270.

His end game seems to be further dividing the country and seeing how much money he can rake in with stirring up his supporters.

An interactive electoral map from 270toWin
https://www.270towin.com/

 

[NDBoiler]

Exactly. They've let nutjobs say ridiculous shit for so long. Now any sort of moderating makes them look like they've picked a side in it.

I saw a tweet that was like "Facebook has turned our parents into what they thought video games would do to us". Couldn't be more right.

That is so so true for a lot of the older generation. My favorite tongue in cheek line to my in-laws after they parrot the latest conspiracy theory: “Now you know you can’t believe everything you read on the internet/Facebook.” LOL

 

[Bluto]

Is anyone watching the Trump legal teams “press conference”? Giuliani looked like he was melting and from what I can sort out from Sidney Powell’s unfocused ranting ANTIFA and Communists in Venezuela hacked the entire election. Keep saying “fake news” and “shocking”. Just referred to themselves as an “elite strike force team”. Lol.

 

[TorontoGold]

Is anyone watching the Trump legal teams “press conference”? Giuliani looked like he was melting and from what I can sort out from Sidney Powell’s unfocused ranting ANTIFA and Communists in Venezuela hacked the entire election. Lol.

Not enough MyPillow guy!

 

[Bluto]

Not enough MyPillow guy!

This shit is so unhinged and unfocused. They’re scolding the press to go read “the federalist papers”. Lol.

It’s like an epic Facebook shit post rant live on TV. Haha.

 

[TorontoGold]

This shit is so unhinged and unfocused. They’re scolding the press to go read “the federalist papers”. Lol.

Jenna Ellis reminds me of the girls I went to high school with that are "Boss babes with a new business opportunity".

Why isn't Jay Sekulow involved in this, he's a constitution guy and seemed to have his thoughts together during the russia stuff.

 

[Bluto]

Jenna Ellis reminds me of the girls I went to high school with that are "Boss babes with a new business opportunity".

Why isn't Jay Sekulow involved in this, he's a constitution guy and seemed to have his thoughts together during the russia stuff.

Haha.

Beats me where Sekulow is at these days.

Anyhow, they couldn’t help themselves and dragged George Soros into the conversation. Haha.

So now the “facts” are that Soros, Maduro, Cuba and someone with ANTIFA ties hacked the election. Lol.