Trump Presidency

[Cackalacky2.0]

Well this is great.

 

[ulukinatme]

lolMeidasTouch again. There's nothing new here, same old stuff from June of last year about Trump trying to sell subs to the Australians via the billionaire, which he did. The staffer seemed to think Trump discussed confidential information with him but wasn't sure. It was later confirmed Trump didn't share anything sensitive with him back in October, according to CBS. Meidas Touch then spins the staffer's comments to say Trump is sharing nuclear codes with everyone at Mar-a-Lago. Of course he's still under investigation for the storage of secret documents, but that's something else.



I take it back, there was new info here. The promotional spot in the middle for the bed sheets was very informative.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

 

[Irish#1]

Cack, why no comment about this? lol

Remember when Trump shared classified info on a golf course?

My team and I conducted a thorough, independent investigation. We identified evidence that the President willfully retained classified materials after the end of his vice presidency, when he was a private citizen. This evidence included an audio- recorded conversation during which Mr. Biden told his ghostwriter that he had “just found all the classified stuff downstairs.” When Mr. Biden said this, he was a private citizen speaking to his ghostwriter in his private rental home in Virginia. We also identified other recorded conversations during which Mr. Biden read classified information aloud to his ghostwriter. We did not, however, identify evidence that rose to the level of proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Because the evidence fell short of that standard, I declined to recommend criminal charges against Mr. Biden. The Department’s regulations required me to write a confidential report explaining my decision to the Attorney General. I understood that my explanation about this case had to include rigorous, detailed, and thorough analysis. In other words, I needed to show my work. Just as I would expect any prosecutor to show his or her work in explaining the decision to prosecute or not. The need to show my work was especially strong here. The Attorney General had appointed me to investigate the actions of the Attorney General’s boss, the sitting President of the United States. I knew that for my decision to be credible, I could not simply announce that I recommended no criminal charges and leave it at that. I needed to explain why.

Transcript of Biden's interview with special counsel Robert Hur shows memory lapses — but also detailed exchanges

Hur will testify Tuesday before the House Judiciary Committee, where Republicans are expected to focus on the president's age and mental fitness.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

I deleted my post. I’m not going to get into it again….

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Cack, why no comment about this? lol

He was investigated and found not to have broken laws. So what. What is to comment. Tell where in shuts report he recommended charges?

He also gave anything back without trying to hide and obstructing search warrants. Ok??? Really?

 

[ulukinatme]

lol. Medias touch is absolutely not extreme left. Lololololololollolololol. Is there no depth to you ball gargling for Trump and his clearly criminal conduct with our nations secrets? And what source would you find credible? Fox isn’t airing this info. OAN isn’t. newsmax isn’t. They are playing clips of this guys interview on CNN. Lmao it’s new because he has come forward in person to give this interview where as it was only reported a while back. We now know who this guy was that gave this information to the Special Counsel. And we know also that he personally loaded banker boxes onto the plane headed for Bedminsters once Trump was notified the FBI wanted his boxes returned. I understand Trump ball gargles wouldn’t want to know about this and need to assuage their cognitive dissonance.

Medias Touch’s legal analysis is some of the best out there to be fair. They go through painstaking detail in reading and providing insight into each filing. This is way more in depth than any commentators on msnbc or cnn or Fox who can’t be bothered to do that at all instead focusing on sucking Trumps dick daily.

lol on the advertisement comment. At least this company don’t partake in the insurrection like the My Pillow and Overstock guys did.

🤦

What you think and what the truth is are two different things. Here's another from AdFontes Media Bias and Reliability



Here's a repost of an article from Rolling Stone talking about the Meidas background and shady business/fundraising practices: Rolling Stone: The Trouble With MeidasTouch "Founded by three brothers, the group says it has generated more than a billion views on social media, mocking and humiliating Trump and his enablers." But yeah, absolutely not extreme left.

Plenty of news sources aired the document info, most of them did in fact, what are you even talking about? Meidas is rehashing the same stuff from last summer, some of which was already debunked as far as confidential information possibly being shared with Pratt.

You're so embedded in the propaganda sites and you can't see it, man. You want an example? You came after me for posting a Tweet one time from that Poso guy a few years ago, when I had no idea who he even was. It's come up a few times I think, despite the fact I've avoided his propaganda since. I just searched his rating as an example:



So effectively Meidas Touch is the Poso of the left. Congrats.

 

[NorthDakota]

He was investigated and found not to have broken laws. So what. What is to comment. Tell where in shuts report he recommended charges?

He also gave anything back without trying to hide and obstructing search warrants. Ok??? Really?

I don't recall seeing anything about not having broken laws.

As for Lara Trump, she's an idiot if she thinks the idea of spending GOP money on Donald's legal fees is popular.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Anyone with a brain stem knows how this is going to end.

 

[ab2cmiller]

As much as I’m disappointed that Trump won the nomination, I’m twice as disappointed that Lara Trump was voted in as Co-Chair. This will be a total disaster.

 

[Irish#1]

He was investigated and found not to have broken laws. So what. What is to comment. Tell where in shuts report he recommended charges?

He also gave anything back without trying to hide and obstructing search warrants. Ok??? Really?

He willfully kept classified documents then shared classified recordings with his ghostwriter. That’s okay because he wasn’t tried? SMH

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

He willfully kept classified documents then shared classified recordings with his ghostwriter. That’s okay because he wasn’t tried? SMH

If it was a crime it’s a crime. Our system charges people who do this all the time. For some reason presidents and VPs are granted some deference. He turned over what he had. So did pence. Trump fucking his them from his lawyer after getting a subpoena. He then hid them from the FBI. Biden and Pence dis not do this. That is what Trump is being charged for. Obstruction and stealing docs that don’t belong to him. Charge anyone who does this. Punish anyone who does this. The investigators deemed them not punishable for Biden and forPence. Ok. If they charge him great. Go to trial. Let’s go. Have their day in court. Make their claims of absolute immunity see how that stands up.

 

[NorthDakota]

If it was a crime it’s a crime. Charge him and punish him. Punish anyone who does this. The investigators deemed them not punishable. Ok. If the hey charge him great. Go to trial. Let’s go.

I don't believe he said it was not punishable

 

[TorontoGold]

If it was a crime it’s a crime. Our system charges people who do this all the time. For some reason presidents and VPs are granted some deference. He turned over what he had. So did pence. Trump fucking his them from his lawyer after getting a subpoena. He then hid them from the FBI. Biden and Pence dis not do this. That is what Trump is being charged for. Obstruction and stealing docs that don’t belong to him. Charge anyone who does this. Punish anyone who does this. The investigators deemed them not punishable for Biden and forPence. Ok. If they charge him great. Go to trial. Let’s go. Have their day in court. Make their claims of absolute immunity see how that stands up.

Why aren't you as angry though? Why aren't you mad at something I am, I will reframe the situation when it's a guy I support but you must be as mad as me when it's something I am mad about. Now, don't you dare point this out or else it is strawmaning!

 

[NorthDakota]

Why aren't you as angry though? Why aren't you mad at something I am, I will reframe the situation when it's a guy I support but you must be as mad as me when it's something I am mad about. Now, don't you dare point this out or else it is strawmaning!

I'm fine giving some grace. I think it might go a long way with people if cack admitted he doesn't actually have standards

 

[Irish#1]

If it was a crime it’s a crime. Our system charges people who do this all the time. For some reason presidents and VPs are granted some deference. He turned over what he had. So did pence. Trump fucking his them from his lawyer after getting a subpoena. He then hid them from the FBI. Biden and Pence dis not do this. That is what Trump is being charged for. Obstruction and stealing docs that don’t belong to him. Charge anyone who does this. Punish anyone who does this. The investigators deemed them not punishable for Biden and forPence. Ok. If they charge him great. Go to trial. Let’s go. Have their day in court. Make their claims of absolute immunity see how that stands up.

Yes, he turned them over, but he still shared classified information and recordings with someone outside of the normal protocol. So sharing classified information is okay as long as you're not a guy named Trump. Got it. SMH

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Yes, he turned them over, but he still shared classified information and recordings with someone outside of the normal protocol. So sharing classified information is okay as long as they don't prosecute you, or sharing classified information is okay as long as you're not a guy named Trump. Got it. SMH

Did you read my answer? No it’s not ok. Prosecute anyone who does that if it’s a crime. Full stop. But for some reason poTUS and VPs get special treatment in our system. I don’t make the rules or the honor system. Again……. Trump isn’t being prosecuted for SHARING INFORMATION! He is being prosecuted for literally conspiring with three other people to illegally retain the documents once the government knew he had them and asked for them back! He made several actions to conceal hide and otherwise obstruct the government form getting the documents back. Jfc

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Why aren't you as angry though? Why aren't you mad at something I am, I will reframe the situation when it's a guy I support but you must be as mad as me when it's something I am mad about. Now, don't you dare point this out or else it is strawmaning!

It’s so fucking weird. I seriously don’t understand these two.

 

[Irish#1]

Did you read my answer? No it’s not ok. Prosecute anyone who does that if it’s a crime. Full stop.

So you agree the special prosecutor should prosecute Biden. After all, he said there was evidence Biden did this. He said he didn't prosecute because he wasn't sure if he could get a conviction, not because he did nothing wrong. Keep in mind, there is more than just evidence that goes into determining if they should prosecute.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

I’m glad they want to do the right thing lmao

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

So you agree the special prosecutor should prosecute Biden. After all, he said there was evidence Biden did this. He said he didn't prosecute because he wasn't sure if he could get a conviction, not because he did nothing wrong. Keep in mind, there is more than just evidence that goes into determining if they should prosecute.

Goddamn …. This is infuriating.

For third time….. yes. I think anyone who shares US secret info with other people should be tried and punished harshly. Biden, Pence, Ghandi, And even Jesus Christ Himself.

Also… the whole not sure he could get a conviction issue comes from the unwritten privileges VPs and POTUs enjoy. Whatever evidence he had would have to hold up in court and prove a crime was committed and VP and POTUs along with Congress and their speech and debate clause have some latitude on what official duties include. Trump took advantage of that as well but I was told it was always a nothing burger or I was being ridiculous so…..but to clarify AGAIN…. What Trump is actually being charges for isn’t sharing information. It’s for STEALING IT!

One more time for you:

ANYONE WHO STEALS OR OTHWERWISE TRANSFERS SECRET INFORMATION OF THE USA TO SOMEONE WHO SHOULDNT HAVE IT, SHOULD BE CHARGED, TRIED, and PUNISHED, ACCORDING TO THE LAW AND TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW BUT THE LAW ALLOWS SPECIAL PRIVLIDGES TO UNITED STATES GOVERMENTPERSONNEL IN CONGRESS, THE POTUS, AND VP WHO HAVE OFFICILA DUTIES THAT ARE AT LEAST PROTECTED OR OTHERWISE INFERRED THAT PREVENT OR HAMPER CRIMINAL PROSECUTIONS.

And

The only difference that separates Biden and Pence from Trump is that Trump took deliberate actions to hide and keep the documents once it was know he had them. TRUMP CLAIMS HE HAS ABSOLUTE IMMUNITY TO DO WHATEVER HE WANTED. HE CLAIMS HE COULD DECLASSIFY ANY DOCUMENT BY USING HIDS FUCKING MIND! If he can do this so can Biden right now. TRUMP CLAIMS THOSE DOCUMENTS WERE HIS WHICH IS WHY HE KEPT THEM. The US government says they arent his they our ours and he had no right to take them. If this is the case then Biden can do the exact same thing. These issues are currently being hashed out in courts because THERE ARE NO LAWS EXPLICITLY ESTABLISHING THE OUTER BOUNDS OF POTUSs and VPs official duties. Someone will have to determine if TRUMP or any POTUS from here on out has complete and total immunity from any criminal prosecutions and can declassify secret documents and then lay claim to them and do with them whatever they want. That is where we are at. Trump has made these claims in legal filings in multiple legal cases and they are unresolved.


This is the fourth time I have said this.

Also why are you not more angry that Trump did it? You seem intent on doing a what about on Biden but not pence and Trump … what’s your bias because that is what you are really trying to do here. I’ve answered you four times now and yet you will continue on about bias and Biden.

 

[TorontoGold]

I'm fine giving some grace. I think it might go a long way with people if cack admitted he doesn't actually have standards

Honestly, I don't think it would matter at all to some whatever he says. Certain people are just toxic personalities, I think I'm one of those types too. Nothing really is going to change someone's opinion.

Those that want Cack to answer for everything that Biden is purported to have done does not mean he doesn't have standards. Just because they spent 4 years reframing or "combatting the hysteria" doesn't mean that someone else has to do that at the same level they did. As well, it looks pretty dumb to say "It's all fake news and hysteria!!" and then around do the same thing that he was accused of doing. If they want to be considered as "more principled" than at least maintaining their positions pre-Biden would make sense.

You're allowed to be upset at what you see in the news, but if you (royal you) tell others you're being emotional and not a rational thinker you shouldn't be doing exactly what you're accusing others of doing.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Honestly, I don't think it would matter at all to some whatever he says. Certain people are just toxic personalities, I think I'm one of those types too. Nothing really is going to change someone's opinion.

Those that want Cack to answer for everything that Biden is purported to have done does not mean he doesn't have standards. Just because they spent 4 years reframing or "combatting the hysteria" doesn't mean that someone else has to do that at the same level they did. As well, it looks pretty dumb to say "It's all fake news and hysteria!!" and then around do the same thing that he was accused of doing. If they want to be considered as "more principled" than at least maintaining their positions pre-Biden would make sense.

You're allowed to be upset at what you see in the news, but if you (royal you) tell others you're being emotional and not a rational thinker you shouldn't be doing exactly what you're accusing others of doing.

It doesnt matter. At all to numerous posters on here. Its been that way forever and I truly could not care less. I could post any article from any source and Ulk would complain about source bias and find something somewhere where they think thats true but never.... address the nut sand bolts of what is being presented. I could post any tweet that only is relaying direct quotes and video clips of their boys and they would claim bias. Prime example is above with IRish#1. I could not be more explict in what I said but here we are 10 posts later and he will still wlak away thinking I have some special preferential bias towards Biden.... who cares. They never discuss the actual quotes. They never discuss the actual issue. They only attack the source and then whatabout. I truly dont care how triggered they get over their perceived bias while not acknowledging their own ball gargling for Dear Leader. I'll continue to post direct quotes of the Trumps talking publicly about them taking RNC money to pay legal bills and they will continue to bitch about the tweet that I use that quotes their own words.

And to be clear I truly dont give a fuck what bishop or North Dakota have to say or think about anything. LMAO.

 

[TorontoGold]

It doesnt matter. At all to numerous posters on here. Its been that way forever and I truly could care less. I could post any article from any source and Ulk would complain about source bias and find something somewhere where they think thats true but never.... address the nut sand bolts of what is being presented. I could post any tweet that only is relaying direct quotes and video clips of their boys and they would claim bias. Prime example is above with IRish#1. I could not be more explict in what I said but here we are 10 posts later and he will still wlak away thinking I have some special preferential bias towards Biden.... who cares. They never discuss the actual quotes. They never discuss the actual issue. They only attack the source and then whatabout. I truly dont care how triggered they get over their perceived bias while not acknowledging their own ball gargling for Dear Leader. I'll continue to post direct quotes of the Trumps talking publicly about them taking RNC money to pay legal bills and they will continue to bitch about the tweet that I use that quotes their own words.

And to be clear I truly dont give a fuck what bishop or North Dakota have to say or think about anything. LMAO.

Nut sand bolts - what is this some kind of Saudi weapon?

Is what is. At the end of the day we're all fucking losers for discussing this on a football forum lmao. I think if anyone's wife found out how much time they spend on here they would get laughed at. I know my GF thinks I'm a schizo for posting on these threads.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Nut sand bolts - what is this some kind of Saudi weapon?

Is what is. At the end of the day we're all fucking losers for discussing this on a football forum lmao. I think if anyone's wife found out how much time they spend on here they would get laughed at. I know my GF thinks I'm a schizo for posting on these threads.

Its nothing new. Ive been on this forum for near 12 years and its the same. They claim they arent biased but if you go into the Biden thread. They have a field day in there. It was the same for Obama. But goddamn.... say anything about Trump in his thread and they cant help but come in here and defend Dear Leader with any and all means and methods, besmirch any who post his own words and actions against him and claim Bias! Bias! Bias!. But they didnt vote for him.... never voted for him....lol Whatever. You are right for sure.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

 

[GATTACA!]

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Weird how it works.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Trump wanted Esper to do things for him on Jan 6. He wouldn’t. Trump fired him. Then put Chris Miller in his place who did exactly what Trump wanted regarding the NG deployment. See the memo sent by Miller on Jan 4

 

[Irish#1]

Goddamn …. This is infuriating.

For third time….. yes. I think anyone who shares US secret info with other people should be tried and punished harshly. Biden, Pence, Ghandi, And even Jesus Christ Himself.

Also… the whole not sure he could get a conviction issue comes from the unwritten privileges VPs and POTUs enjoy. Whatever evidence he had would have to hold up in court and prove a crime was committed and VP and POTUs along with Congress and their speech and debate clause have some latitude on what official duties include. Trump took advantage of that as well but I was told it was always a nothing burger or I was being ridiculous so…..but to clarify AGAIN…. What Trump is actually being charges for isn’t sharing information. It’s for STEALING IT!

One more time for you:

ANYONE WHO STEALS OR OTHWERWISE TRANSFERS SECRET INFORMATION OF THE USA TO SOMEONE WHO SHOULDNT HAVE IT, SHOULD BE CHARGED, TRIED, and PUNISHED, ACCORDING TO THE LAW AND TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW BUT THE LAW ALLOWS SPECIAL PRIVLIDGES TO UNITED STATES GOVERMENTPERSONNEL IN CONGRESS, THE POTUS, AND VP WHO HAVE OFFICILA DUTIES THAT ARE AT LEAST PROTECTED OR OTHERWISE INFERRED THAT PREVENT OR HAMPER CRIMINAL PROSECUTIONS.

And

The only difference that separates Biden and Pence from Trump is that Trump took deliberate actions to hide and keep the documents once it was know he had them. TRUMP CLAIMS HE HAS ABSOLUTE IMMUNITY TO DO WHATEVER HE WANTED. HE CLAIMS HE COULD DECLASSIFY ANY DOCUMENT BY USING HIDS FUCKING MIND! If he can do this so can Biden right now. TRUMP CLAIMS THOSE DOCUMENTS WERE HIS WHICH IS WHY HE KEPT THEM. The US government says they arent his they our ours and he had no right to take them. If this is the case then Biden can do the exact same thing. These issues are currently being hashed out in courts because THERE ARE NO LAWS EXPLICITLY ESTABLISHING THE OUTER BOUNDS OF POTUSs and VPs official duties. Someone will have to determine if TRUMP or any POTUS from here on out has complete and total immunity from any criminal prosecutions and can declassify secret documents and then lay claim to them and do with them whatever they want. That is where we are at. Trump has made these claims in legal filings in multiple legal cases and they are unresolved.


This is the fourth time I have said this.

Also why are you not more angry that Trump did it? You seem intent on doing a what about on Biden but not pence and Trump … what’s your bias because that is what you are really trying to do here. I’ve answered you four times now and yet you will continue on about bias and Biden.

Trust me, I'm not more upset with Biden's actions than Trumps, but Biden is the POTUS right now. I just find it quite amusing that you keep posting in the Trump thread yet, don't admonish or criticize Biden while his approval ratings pretty much indicate he's left plenty out there to question.

If this is infuriating, then you're letting emotions drive your thought process. I've been talking about sharing the information. Not the taking of the documents. While these two topics can be related, they are two different actions.

Evidently you've forgotten that I've said before if Trump took the documents Trump should suffer the consequences. He's going to suffer the consequences and I'm fine with that.