Trump Presidency Round 2

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I think I'd be more willing to see how it plays out and "let Trump play the long game" if we even had the smallest sense that there was some kind of strategy.

The way this whole thing has been communicated to the American public has been brutal. Someone should probably be fired. Instead we are left with the impression that there is no guiding strategy and instead we are left with pure chaos.

 

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Instead we are left with the impression that there is no guiding strategy
There isn't.

Trump as of TWO DAYS AGO was still talking about tariffs replacing the income tax...or re-imposing the tariffs...but if he's negotiating all these deals to vastly reduce or eliminate the tariffs...how the fuck can the tariff money replace income tax?

He, and his entire administration, have been flip-flopping all over these "strategies" on a daily basis for what feels like months now. There is no guiding principle or strategy on it.

The fact that you still can't just come out and acknowledge that is insane.

Someone should probably be fired.
At last check, you can't "fire" a president.,...and it's even MORE insane that you can't just assign blame to the guy whose fault this is...Donald Trump's. He is the the biggest issue here since it was his idea and he is the biggest vector of shit messaging on this. All the links above are from the past three days.
 
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Yeah, they're not down 93%, but wholesale prices have dropped substantially. According to Yahoo the wholesale price is down 52% since January. Grocers will continue to squeeze a little bit extra while they can, but wholesale egg prices have been dropping for 3 straight weeks. I would expect the market will eventually correct a bit as supply continues to increase.
 

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I think I'd be more willing to see how it plays out and "let Trump play the long game" if we even had the smallest sense that there was some kind of strategy.

The way this whole thing has been communicated to the American public has been brutal. Someone should probably be fired. Instead we are left with the impression that there is no guiding strategy and instead we are left with pure chaos.


That dude was a partner in Vintage Wine Estates that bought up a bunch of smaller family owned wine operations where I live and then proceeded to run them into the ground and go bankrupt within a few years. Now some billionaire in Texas owns a bunch of them. Good times.
 
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I think I'd be more willing to see how it plays out and "let Trump play the long game" if we even had the smallest sense that there was some kind of strategy.

The way this whole thing has been communicated to the American public has been brutal. Someone should probably be fired. Instead we are left with the impression that there is no guiding strategy and instead we are left with pure chaos.


It would be great, If Biden supporters had this level of frustration, for the last 4 years.
Let's just bomb everyone.
Obama would have droned the Hussein out of his middle name, If he was In charge.
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From the post you just threw out here. We must have a problem that Humpty Dumpty hasn't thought of.
We're so much smarter than the President in charge, because we get all of the information before they do. I'm with ya.
What country should we invade next, in order to get a 10 cent a dozen eggs, that I paid in the 80's? The hens are working hard too.

 
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The only people that need fired are the ones that have caused millions of people to vacate and run, to countries they feel safe in.
 

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“the Trump administration deported a two-year-old U.S. citizen to Honduras with “no meaningful process,” even as the child’s father was frantically petitioning the courts to keep her in the country.”

They kept the family together. You would bitch about family separation had it gone the other way. Fixing the democrats deliberate border invasion has hard choices. Easier if you just don’t open the floodgates.

A visual, if you will.


Bluto when millions of unverified people cross the border-
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Bluto when they don’t separate the kids at deportation from their mother-
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Bluto when they do separate the kids from their mother at deportation-
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They kept the family together. You would bitch about family separation had it gone the other way. Fixing the democrats deliberate border invasion has hard choices. Easier if you just don’t open the floodgates.

A visual, if you will.


Bluto when millions of unverified people cross the border-
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Bluto when they don’t separate the kids at deportation from their mother-
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Bluto when they do separate the kids from their mother at deportation-
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Oh boy. Deporting US Citizens with no due process is a “hard choice”. That’s idiotic.

“…lawyers for the family filed an emergency petition in the Western District of Louisiana seeking V.M.L.’s immediate release from ICE custody and a declaration that the girl’s detention had been unlawful. The petition was filed under the name of Trish Mack, who the lawyers indicated had been asked by V.M.L.’s father to act as the child’s custodian and take her home from ICE custody.”

There was no hearing before the deportation. So one is supposed to just take at face value what the administration presented to the judge post deportation as evidence that the mother wanted the child to go with her which in part included a note supposedly written by the mother asking for the child to go with her.

Seems like a bad idea given the repeated errors these dipshits have made regarding everything. That’s the point.

The bungling and slipping approval on even this issue is a clear marker that these bozos can’t help but step on their own dicks and continue pissing into the wind.
 
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If only some of you had been this worked up and concerned when they were coming here illegally with no thought of due process or regard for our laws.
 

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If only some of you had been this worked up and concerned when they were coming here illegally with no thought of due process or regard for our laws.
Nice deflection.

What you are complaining about is exactly what the bipartisan immigration bill that Trump squashed was seeking to do. So yet again that incompetent dickhead who is currently the POTUS takes center stage.

If one wanted to have a serious discussion about this (seems unlikely) they might want to also consider some of what drives immigration in the first place and how US foreign policy helps create the conditions that make people want to flee their countries en masse and might allow them to have a legitimate asylum claim based on the current legal framework.

For example, if one wants to see immigration from say Cuba and or Venezuela drop they might want to consider lifting the sanctions on both those countries and moving towards normalizing relations. But alas, blah, blah, blah…socialism! Let’s attempt a coup!
 
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Nice deflection.

What you are complaining about is exactly what the bipartisan immigration bill that Trump squashed was seeking to do. So yet again that incompetent dickhead who is currently the POTUS takes center stage.

If one wanted to have a serious discussion about this (seems unlikely) they might want to also consider some of what drives immigration in the first place and how US foreign policy helps create the conditions that make people want to flee their countries en masse and might allow them to have a legitimate asylum claim based on the current legal framework.

For example, if one wants to see immigration from say Cuba and or Venezuela drop they might want to consider lifting the sanctions on both those countries and moving towards normalizing relations. But alas, blah, blah, blah…socialism! Let’s attempt a coup!
We tried for years to have a serious discussion about this and people like you refused to do anything to stop the mass invasion. In fact, you strongly supported the politicians who openly encouraged and incentivized millions coming here illegally. You didn't want the invasion stopped nor the problem addressed when it was being created, so STFU now about it finally getting solved. Nobody cares what you think about it. In fact, the more you dislike the way it's now being solved, the better the rest of us like it. Your hypocrisy and "America last" attitude have a cost.
 

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You're right. Lying about WMD's and using 9/11 as a way to finish his daddy's war and we elect Barack Hussein, so we can have him lead us to 7 new wars.
If Trump did the exact same thing, he would be serving time at GITMO as we speak.

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Nice deflection.

What you are complaining about is exactly what the bipartisan immigration bill that Trump squashed was seeking to do. So yet again that incompetent dickhead who is currently the POTUS takes center stage.

If one wanted to have a serious discussion about this (seems unlikely) they might want to also consider some of what drives immigration in the first place and how US foreign policy helps create the conditions that make people want to flee their countries en masse and might allow them to have a legitimate asylum claim based on the current legal framework.

For example, if one wants to see immigration from say Cuba and or Venezuela drop they might want to consider lifting the sanctions on both those countries and moving towards normalizing relations. But alas, blah, blah, blah…socialism! Let’s attempt a coup!
That bill was an excuse. How convenient that you were born after 100 executive orders to open the border and lawsuits to prevent border enforcement. We didn't need a stupid bill, we needed an administration that wasn't inept.
 
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That bill was an excuse. How convenient that you were born after 100 executive orders to open the border and lawsuits to prevent border enforcement. We didn't need a stupid bill, we needed an administration that wasn't inept.
And yet we still don't have one
 

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We tried for years to have a serious discussion about this and people like you refused to do anything to stop the mass invasion. In fact, you strongly supported the politicians who openly encouraged and incentivized millions coming here illegally. You didn't want the invasion stopped nor the problem addressed when it was being created, so STFU now about it finally getting solved. Nobody cares what you think about it. In fact, the more you dislike the way it's now being solved, the better the rest of us like it. Your hypocrisy and "America last" attitude have a cost.
I see. Apparently you care enough about what I think to respond to my post so yeah you can’t even get that right.

This administration isn’t solving shit in the way you are presenting it in that deportation numbers are still at about or lower than what they were under Biden.

Also, I didn’t refuse to do anything and again you are deflecting instead of addressing the fact that a US citizen was deported without due process. I don’t want US Citizens illegally deported. It’s pretty simple. Apparently you do.

Also, it appears that this girls father is still in the US so it looks like that idiot Drayers assertion about not “separating the family” is inaccurate, which is not surprising.

 
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Also, it appears that this girls father is still in the US so it looks like that idiot Drayers assertion about not “separating the family” is inaccurate, which is not surprising.

You would bitch about the separation from the mother the other way around. If you don't want to have these sticky positions, don't deliberately flood the country like an idiot.
 
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