Trump Presidency Round 2

[BuaConstrictor]

Hillary called half the country deplorable and Obama called for fundamental transformation of our country.

Hillary appears to have been correct.

More comedy gold from you. We have the Trump supporter upset that Obama called for the fundamental transformation of our country.
1. Back that up with...anything
2. Isn't that what MAGA loves about Trump? Draining the swamp? Getting rid of the old guard and old ways? Blowing the system up?
The guy is apparently serious about annexing around 50% of North America, trying to get rid of the DoE, is trying to make it so only him and the AG can determine what the law is, is bending the knee to Russia, is gutting the IRS et al and that isn't a fundamental transformation of the country?...we're still hung up on Obama trying to give people healthcare?

 

[NDVirginia19]

I have never understood the claim that Musk somehow isn’t intelligent. Is he an annoying troll and reactionary in his social media posts? Yeah, he does sometimes act obtuse online. But I think it’s laughable to pretend like he’s not intelligent lmao

 

[NDVirginia19]

The genesis of Canadian annexation comes from Trump’s conversation with Trudeau when Trudeau claimed that the Canadian economy could not survive if we imposed tariffs on them at the same rate at which they impose tariffs on us. If that’s the case, why not just combine efforts and have fully free trade?

That’s Trump’s line of thought, and I think he’s largely just turned on by the idea of land acquisition. I don’t think it would be a necessarily bad idea given the cultural diffusion between the two countries. Especially when you consider we provide nearly 100% of Canada’s military protection (and that’s not to discredit the Canadian servicember’s contributions in GWOT and many conflicts before. But in Great Power Competition they offer essentially very little other than overflight guarantees) . We can let Quebec do whatever the fuck they want though

 

[BuaConstrictor]

I have never understood the claim that Musk somehow isn’t intelligent.

Not being able to read a pivot table at the Social Security offices doesn't help his case.

Also, his general worldview and belief system would based on both written statements and spoken word lend credence to the idea that he's a dumbass.

He's an opportunist and has made a ton of money, but he's not "intelligent"..and he definitely isn't one of the smartest guys in the country. There are plenty of rich and powerful people who are complete rubes.

 

[BuaConstrictor]

If that’s the case, why not just combine efforts and have fully free trade?

That’s Trump’s line of thought, and I think he’s largely just turned on by the idea of land acquisition.

Because sovereignty exists? You can do the trade agreement without annexing Canada. Interesting the great deal maker didn't consider that during his first term when he made a trade deal that he now calls terrible.

True. As we know from civil trial depositions and leaked tapes, Trump is turned on by a lot of horrific stuff. Land acquisition might be the most benign.

 

[NDVirginia19]

Because sovereignty exists? You can do the trade agreement without annexing Canada. Interesting the great deal maker didn't consider that during his first term when he made a trade deal that he now calls terrible.

True. As we know from civil trial depositions and leaked tapes, Trump is turned on by a lot of horrific stuff. Land acquisition might be the most benign.

Hey they would be the 51st state, they would have the same amount of sovereignty that we have as citizens here in America

 

[Blazers46]

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Gulp who's going to tell him that 3 of IE MAGA reacted to it? And he's responding to the conversation, thus giving it more attention.

So you came with receipts that I think you making a big deal about this is funny? Guilty as charged… wow, you got me… my point still stands, I agree with me that it’s hilarious. Reactions don’t increase attention like some google or facebook analytic. You’re a joke, I’ll keep laughing.

 

[TorontoGold]

No, not a Steve Bannon guy, but I love to call out liberal brain damage because the tears are delicious.

I suggest taking a look at this video. I realize it's breaking down Elon Musk's recent "salute," but this unbiased expert makes some excellent points about the body language and psychology of Musk. He also discusses the so called "benefits' of making such a salute. For starters, Neo Nazis are not a powerful group in 2025. They're not traditionally big voters. In the case of Musk, they're not electric car drivers. They're not popular, they're not liked. He goes on and on. Point is, it stands to reason that there's no psychological reason why Musk would have showed support for the group. Many of those same reasons apply to Bannon.

It's worth your time, feel free to skip to about the 5:00 minute mark. The beginning breaks down his entrance and sets the stage for the later analysis.

I’m totally ok saying Elon Musk is not a neo nazi sympathizer. That has never been or even been part of this discussion.

Steve Bannon had none of the same components as Musk did, no heart goes out to you, no spectrum considerations etc. Steve Bannon has documented ties to very racist ideals, he is a bad person. I don’t know why it’s so tough to just say “Yeah that was a bad salute”.

That salty fluid you’re drinking isn’t lib tears, it might be something else, and judging by these posts it might be a mixture of Donny and Musk.

 

[TorontoGold]

So you came with receipts that I think you making a big deal about this is funny? Guilty as charged… wow, you got me… my point still stands, I agree with me that it’s hilarious. Reactions don’t increase attention like some google or facebook analytic. You’re a joke, I’ll keep laughing.

Every single one of your posts is essentially this dril tweet

 

[calvegas04]

All coming together now, let's see if this has some wheels.

Donald Trump Was Recruited By KGB Under Codename ‘Krasnov’: Spy Chief

President Donald Trump was recruited by the Soviet Union's KGB (Komitet Gosudarstvennoy Bezopasnosti) back in 1987 and was also given a codename, a former intelligence officer alleged in a social media post. Alnur Mussayev, 71, revealed that he served in the 6th Directorate of the KGB in Moscow...

www.timesnownews.com

 

[ulukinatme]

I’m totally ok saying Elon Musk is not a neo nazi sympathizer. That has never been or even been part of this discussion.

Steve Bannon had none of the same components as Musk did, no heart goes out to you, no spectrum considerations etc. Steve Bannon has documented ties to very racist ideals, he is a bad person. I don’t know why it’s so tough to just say “Yeah that was a bad salute”.

That salty fluid you’re drinking isn’t lib tears, it might be something else, and judging by these posts it might be a mixture of Donny and Musk.

Steve Bannon is 100% an ass clown, I've got no problem saying it. He probably is racist, and I'm sure he's a bad person. I care so little I'm not even going to question it and look up the reasons he is. All that can be true, and it can also be true that it wasn't a Nazi salute, they're not mutually exclusive.

He didn't even touch his chest when the gesture began, he starts the motion to the right of his chest at belly level, and it appeared like more of a sweeping wave and not a stiff salute. I don't know what to tell ya man. It's literally one of the weakest examples of a Nazi salute I've seen yet. If that was his true intention, to provide some dog whistle for Neo Nazis, it's the laziest attempt I've ever seen. No energy, didn't touch his chest, didn't keep the arm extended, didn't even straighten it really.

I wasn't sure I got this right, and apparently I did get it wrong because I thought it was supposed to start from the chest when it's supposed to start from the shoulder: "The salute is performed by extending the right arm from the shoulder into the air with a straightened hand."
So, I ask you, do you really think that's what Bannon did here or maybe it's a trumped up accusation?

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Hillary appears to have been correct.

More comedy gold from you. We have the Trump supporter upset that Obama called for the fundamental transformation of our country.
1. Back that up with...anything
2. Isn't that what MAGA loves about Trump? Draining the swamp? Getting rid of the old guard and old ways? Blowing the system up?
The guy is apparently serious about annexing around 50% of North America, trying to get rid of the DoE, is trying to make it so only him and the AG can determine what the law is, is bending the knee to Russia, is gutting the IRS et al and that isn't a fundamental transformation of the country?...we're still hung up on Obama trying to give people healthcare?

Brand new member who knows I'm a Trump supporter? How many profiles does Cack have on this site lol

Obama was quoted as saying he wanted fundamental transformation of the US. Dangerous rhetoric if you ask me, and I think Obama got what he wanted over the past 4 years with millions of third world illegals pouring across our border unchecked. That's fundamentally changing the demographics of the US.

 

[Blazers46]

Every single one of your posts is essentially this dril tweet

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You post something stupid, I laugh and you cry about me and others laughing at stupid post, but yet I’m mad? This is Steven Bannon level stupid.

 

[Irish#1]

....Good to know you have very strong feelings on things you know nothing about.


There was literally a border bill less than a year ago that would have done so. Biden also narrowed asylum opportunities prior to that.


They really haven't.
1. Biden was deporting illegal immigrants at the highest rate in history last year. He was doing so at a higher rate than any time during Trump's presidency
2. Illegal and legal immigrants have a lower violent crime rate than US Citizens and documented immigrants.
3. If you're referring to the Mollie Tibbits case...her own family would reject your statements...and they have done so publicly and after her daughter's death still chose to house illegal immigrants.

That border bill that was proposed last year contained so much pork and other items unrelated to immigration that it was never going to pass. And this was proposed only after things had gotten out of hand and Biden was trying to save face.

It really doesn’t matter if illegals have a lower crime rate. Crime is wrong and if they were in their country of origin they wouldn’t have committed a crime here. They’re just adding to a problem this country needs to address. It’s like opening the drain halfway but leaving the faucet running.

 

[Irish#1]

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Gulp who's going to tell him that 3 of IE MAGA reacted to it? And he's responding to the conversation, thus giving it more attention.

I am simply amazed that you consistently miss points being made. I laughed because one, I could give a shit about Bannon because he’s a nut job and two, you posting that made me laugh, like you found the smoking gun.

 

[Irish#1]

I didn't know this place had stand-up comedy on Friday nights.

You don’t think Musk is smart? Lol

 

[calvegas04]

Lol

 

[Blazers46]

Lol

I’m confused. I would think there would some “ohhhh” moment. But it’s… I could have saved them, it’s political v no they are trust worthy people… besides the headline, what am I missing?

 

[NDVirginia19]

Do I think they are nazi’s? No. Do I think The left is overreacting? Yes. But I think it’s probably easier to just try to be mindful of it

 

[drayer54]

All coming together now, let's see if this has some wheels.

Donald Trump Was Recruited By KGB Under Codename ‘Krasnov’: Spy Chief

President Donald Trump was recruited by the Soviet Union's KGB (Komitet Gosudarstvennoy Bezopasnosti) back in 1987 and was also given a codename, a former intelligence officer alleged in a social media post. Alnur Mussayev, 71, revealed that he served in the 6th Directorate of the KGB in Moscow...

www.timesnownews.com

I'm not sure what's funnier- that you believe it, cited this source, or that we are in year 9 of the walls closing in.

 

[BuaConstrictor]

Brand new member who knows I'm a Trump supporter? How many profiles does Cack have on this site lol

You act as though you hide it well.

Obama was quoted as saying he wanted fundamental transformation of the US. Dangerous rhetoric if you ask me, and I think Obama got what he wanted over the past 4 years with millions of third world illegals pouring across our border unchecked. That's fundamentally changing the demographics of the US.

See above...moving on.

Nice to see you avoided the points about Trump and his fundamental transformation of the US. Again, this boils down to ideology. You're fine with it now because it aligns with your view.

I'm still waiting for your supporting argument re: Obama and fundamental transformation and what that specifically involved.

I'm also legit cackling at Obama getting what he wanted from 2020-2024 when he was the President from 2008-2016.

Lastly, why is the demographic of the US changing a bad thing?

 

[BuaConstrictor]

You don’t think Musk is smart? Lol

No.

 

[BuaConstrictor]

hat border bill that was proposed last year contained so much pork

Untrue!
..but let's play.
-What "pork" was in it? Be specific.
-Secondly, it "never going to pass anyways" flies directly in the face of every Republican who openly said the bill had full support until Trump told them not to vote for it. Republicans authored the bill. It had the support to pass.

It really doesn’t matter if illegals have a lower crime rate.

It does when people are trying to argue they drive the crime rate up...or are making broad statements about if we have less illegal immigrants there would be less violent crime...bc by the logic of getting rid of the people who commit violent crime being a good thing..we should start deporting citizens tomorrow.

 

[NDVirginia19]

The bipartisan bill had like $80 Billion in foreign aid spending for Ukraine, Israel, and the Indopacific region in it, I wouldn’t characterize it on pork in the traditional sense, but it certainly had no place in an immigration bill. It also allowed up to 5,000 illegal crossings a day before requiring emergency declaration.

The Republicans passed a much more strict immigration bill the year before in the house. Why would they pass a watered down bill when, as very clearly demonstrated by the past month, additional legislation was not required to crack down on border crossings

 

[BuaConstrictor]

The bipartisan bill had like $80 Billion in foreign aid spending for Ukraine, Israel, and the Indopacific region in it, I wouldn’t characterize it on pork

Ding ding ding!

but it certainly had no place in an immigration bill.

That's a rather myopic view of immigration....when you adequately support countries around the world..they are less likely to try and matriculate here and claim asylum.

It also allowed up to 5,000 illegal crossings a day before requiring emergency declaration.

Untrue!

It was 5,000 encounters. Not crossings. Encounters are not crossings. You're blatantly wrong on the facts.

Why would they pass a watered down bill when, as very clearly demonstrated by the past month, additional legislation was not required to crack down on border crossings

Because border security just isn't about "crossings". Border security is a comprehensive plan involving both funding for efficiencies in processing at the border but also part of larger strategic funding in other countries that helps to prevent both short and long term those migrants reasons for attempting to cross to begin with.

 

[Blazers46]

I am simply amazed that you consistently miss points being made. I laughed because one, I could give a shit about Bannon because he’s a nut job and two, you posting that made me laugh, like you found the smoking gun.

We need to share in his rage or we are the problem. He gives this turd airtime and we are somehow complicit for not being equally as faux outraged.

 

[TorontoGold]

I am simply amazed that you consistently miss points being made. I laughed because one, I could give a shit about Bannon because he’s a nut job and two, you posting that made me laugh, like you found the smoking gun.

CPAC seems to be a pretty prominent forum. Whatever though, guess it's not as important as whatever MAGAMom69 tweets that gets you all hot and bothered so you need to share those tweets 7 times a day.

 

[Blazers46]

CPAC seems to be a pretty prominent forum. Whatever though, guess it's not as important as whatever MAGAMom69 tweets that gets you all hot and bothered so you need to share those tweets 7 times a day.

It’s not important because nobody besides you pretending to be outraged

 

[ulukinatme]

You don’t think Musk is smart? Lol

No.

The man has a reported 150-155 IQ. In truth he's smarter than anyone on this site. Does he say and do some silly things from time to time? Absolutely, and I'm sure some of that goes hand in hand with being on the spectrum. Being smart doesn't give you immunity to lapses in judgement. Facts are he's in charge of the most efficient space company on the planet. He runs the #1 EV car company. He lost Twitter half of it's revenue but was able to cut 3/4 of it's workforce, ultimately making them more profitable but also creating a powerful platform that no longer squelched conservative voices. The man is unquestionably smart, but he will definitely do dumb things from time to time. He's human.

 

[BuaConstrictor]

The man has a reported 150-155 IQ

His own biographer says there is zero proof his IQ is higher than 100-110.

In truth he's smarter than anyone on this site

False.

I'm sure some of that goes hand in hand with being on the spectrum

1. There is zero proof Musk is on spectrum(specifically that he has autism)
2. It's disrespectful to people with actual spectrum disorders(specifically autism) to excuse Musk's behavior, sans evidence, as a result of a spectrum disorder(specifically autism). My nephew is diagnosed with autism. He has never done half of the dumb shit Musk has done and has never done anything resembling a nazi salute.

Before we get into the entire Aspergers v Autism thing...how many people on the spectrum..with either..do you know who throw out nazi salutes? My dad is blessed enough to work with people with spectrum disorders and other disabilities...none of these people do these things. Simply shrugging our shoulders and saying "welp, he's "on the spectrum" infantilizes these people makes them not accountable for their actions. Musk is a grown adult, and regardless of what disorder he may have, can still be held accountable for the things he does. He also seems to have shown zero remorse for his actions , which is rather important.

That being said, I don't really "care" about Musk throwing the salute out..or whatever the hell he did. It looked horrendous...but Musk was a piece of shit before he did that...and continues to be one after it. It's immaterial to me on my judgment of him. My bigger issue is people not holding him accountable for it or trying to sanewash it.

The man is unquestionably smart,

He definitely is not.

Tesla is no longer than top EV company in the world by the way. They also no longer hold a majority of the share of the US Market.

Facts are he's in charge of the most efficient space company on the planet

"Space company" covers a lot of ground. So let's dig into this a bit. Is SpaceX the most efficient space exploration company on the planet? Maybe...but First off, we need to understand SpaceX relies heavily on public money subsidization for their projects. They also rely heavily on NASA engineers as well. SpaceX is "efficient" because they can and are using "competitor" resourcing.

Can SpaceX blast people into space at a higher rate than NASA? Currently, yes...but SpaceX and NASA also have different operating principles right now. NASA is chasing bigger fish in the R&D sector and concentrating on longer term projects with bigger picture scientific goals. NASA is happy to allow SpaceX to do the launches SpaceX does as it frees up NASA for more ambitious manned missions and deep space exploration. Too many people view this as a NASA vs SpaceX thing, it's really not. Musk will say stupid shit, as he did a day or two ago, but overall the two organizations have worked quite well together. If NASA wanted to be "more efficient" than SpaceX, they could be...they are directly responsible for SpaceX's efficiencies. It's not an adversarial thing though.