Trump Presidency Round 2

[Blazers46]

This is the most progressive post I’ve seen on this topic by anyone on the Right. You are saying you’d do the right thing and call her by her preferred gender. You can disagree with participation in sports, but being purposefully transphobic like Irish#1 has takes away from the discussion.

Someone much smarter than me can determine the scientific rules and when too much HRT and what not poses a risk.

I regret to inform you of a typo… legally speaking a “he” all day. Sorry for the confusion I was driving.

 

[Bluto]

I’ll let the richest man on earth run my tool shed as long as I get some stock options out of it

Cool!

Greed is good?

 

[Irish#1]

 

[NDVirginia19]

Cool!

Greed is good?

I think it's absolutely farcical to believe that Elon Musk is an idiot or a bad business man as many on the left are claiming

 

[Blazers46]

I think it's absolutely farcical to believe that Elon Musk is an idiot or a bad business man as many on the left are claiming

I would love to be as dumb as Elon.

 

[Bluto]

I think it's absolutely farcical to believe that Elon Musk is an idiot or a bad business man as many on the left are claiming

Whatever makes you feel better Hoss.

I’ve been around a bunch of very wealthy people and I can say unequivocally that equating being wealthy with being “smart” is fucking dumb.

Always strange to hear “followers” of Jesus express such sentiments.

Anyhow, apparently Musk hates the constitution as well. So there’s that.

 

[Irish#1]

No clue. Just wondering since you said you had no problem with trans people, so if she wants to be referred to as “she” it would seem like you do have an issue?

find out and I’ll answer.

Your statement is classic lib BS used to try and justify a claim of bigotry, racism, etc. If someone wants to be a man or a woman I don’t care. If a guy tells me he’s the POTUS, I don’t care but I’m pretty sure he’s not the POTUS.

 

[Blazers46]

Whatever makes you feel better Hoss.

I’ve been around a bunch of very wealthy people and I can say unequivocally that equating being wealthy with being “smart” is fucking dumb.

Always strange to hear “followers” of Jesus express such sentiments.

Anyhow, apparently Musk hates the constitution as well. So there’s that.

I have friends that are very rich and I’ll admit a lot got lucky and just did one thing very well.

 

[Bluto]

I have friends that are very rich and I’ll admit a lot got lucky and just did one thing very well.

I think this assessment is accurate.

Most rich people I know are so as a result of nepotism, cronyism and or being in the right place at the right time.

I just don’t understand the idea of aspiring to be “rich”. It’s kind of gross honestly and antithetical to what I learned from my Catholic upbringing.

 

[Irish#1]

This is the most progressive post I’ve seen on this topic by anyone on the Right. You are saying you’d do the right thing and call her by her preferred gender. You can disagree with participation in sports, but being purposefully transphobic like Irish#1 has takes away from the discussion.

Someone much smarter than me can determine the scientific rules and when too much HRT and what not poses a risk.

SMH…..

 

[TorontoGold]

I regret to inform you of a typo… legally speaking a “he” all day. Sorry for the confusion I was driving.

Sure, but you were talking about “socially” calling her whatever she wants. Let me give credit for fucks sake lmao

 

[Blazers46]

find out and I’ll answer.

Your statement is classic lib BS used to try and justify a claim of bigotry, racism, etc. If someone wants to be a man or a woman I don’t care. If a guy tells me he’s the POTUS, I don’t care but I’m pretty sure he’s not the POTUS.

Context definitely matters. If my son identifies as the president of the United States, I will let him play his game. But I will not take his executive orders seriously, lol.

 

[Blazers46]

Sure, but you were talking about “socially” calling her whatever she wants. Let me give credit for fucks sake lmao

For sure! I just didn’t wanna take credit under false terms. Lol.

 

[Irish#1]

I think this assessment is accurate.

Most rich people I know are so as a result of nepotism and or being in the right place at the right time.

I just don’t understand the idea of aspiring to be “rich”. It’s kind of gross honestly and antithetical to what I learned from my Catholic upbringing.

I’ve never had a goal to be rich, but Whether one inherited wealth or built it themselves, I don’t begrudge them.

 

[Bluto]

I’ve never had a goal to be rich, but Whether one inherited wealth or built it themselves, I don’t begrudge them.

I do if they’re a power hungry asshole. Lol.

 

[Blazers46]

I think this assessment is accurate.

Most rich people I know are so as a result of nepotism, cronyism and or being in the right place at the right time.

I just don’t understand the idea of aspiring to be “rich”. It’s kind of gross honestly and antithetical to what I learned from my Catholic upbringing.

To be fair the Catholic Church is very wealthy.

 

[Bluto]

I stumbled upon this excellent post that I think articulates what we are seeing regarding the US on the global stage right now and I encourage everyone to read it.

“
It's becoming clearer and clearer that we're looking at a seismic shift in the US's relationship with the world, between:

1) The US dismantling its foreign interference apparatuses (like USAID 👇)
2) Marco Rubio stating that we're now in a multipolar world with "multi-great powers in different parts of the planet" (state.gov/secretary-marc…) and that "the postwar global order is not just obsolete; it is now a weapon being used against us" (foreign.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/…)
3) The tariffs on supposed "allies" like Mexico, Canada or the EU

This is the US effectively saying "our attempt at running the world is over, to each his own, we're now just another great power, not the 'indispensable nation'."

It looks "dumb" (as the WSJ just wrote) if you are still mentally in the old paradigm but it's always a mistake to think that what the US (or any country) does is dumb.

Hegemony was going to end sooner or later, and now the U.S. is basically choosing to end it on its own terms. It is the post-American world order - brought to you by America itself.

Even the tariffs on allies, viewed under this angle, make sense, as it redefines the concept of "allies": they don't want - or maybe rather can't afford - vassals anymore, but rather relationships that evolve based on current interests.

You can either view it as decline - because it does unquestionably look like the end of the American empire - or as avoiding further decline: controlled withdrawal from imperial commitments in order to focus resources on core national interests rather than being forced into an even messier retreat at a later stage.

In any case it is the end of an era and, while the Trump administration looks like chaos to many observers, they're probably much more attuned to the changing realities of the world and their own country's predicament than their predecessors. Acknowledging the existence of a multipolar world and choosing to operate within it rather than trying to maintain an increasingly costly global hegemony couldn't be delayed much further. It looks messy but it is probably better than maintaining the fiction of American primacy until it eventually collapses under its own weight.

This is not to say that the U.S. won't continue to wreak havoc on the world, and in fact we might be seeing it become even more aggressive than before. Because when it previously was (badly, and very hypocritically) trying to maintain some semblance of self-proclaimed "rules-based order", it now doesn't even have to pretend it is under any constraint, not even the constraint of playing nice with allies. It's the end of the U.S. empire, but definitely not the end of the U.S. as a major disruptive force in world affairs.

All in all this transformation may mark one of the most significant shifts in international relations since the fall of the Soviet Union. And those most unprepared for it, as is already painfully obvious, are America's vassals caught completely flat-footed by the realization that the patron they've relied on for decades is now treating them as just another set of countries to negotiate with.”

Haha. It took Trump like 3 days to blow up this narrative.

How’s this all square with the US occupying Gaza?

Let’s face it, Trump is just talking out his ass and whatever makes him money and or keeps him out of prison is the “deal” he’s going to make.

I will say I appreciate his new talking points on making a “deal” with Iran. However, they sounded a lot like the deal that had already be negotiated under the Obama administration that Trump, conservatives and FOX “News” spent a shit ton of energy deriding as “supporting terrorism” or whatever.

 

[Bluto]

To be fair the Catholic Church is very wealthy.

Yeah. That’s kinda fucking gross.

 

[NorthDakota]

IThis is the most progressive post I’ve seen on this topic by anyone on the Right. You are saying you’d do the right thing and call her by her preferred gender. You can disagree with participation in sports, but being purposefully transphobic like Irish#1 has takes away from the discussion.

Someone much smarter than me can determine the scientific rules and when too much HRT and what not poses a risk.

It's not a progressive thing as far as I can tell. It's a polite thing i think. Being polite isn't conservative or progressive. My mom complies with the preferred pronoun thing, I don't. Shes wayyy more socially conservative than i am.

I just as for the individuals name and refer to them as that. It seems to work. I definitely (inadvertently) "misgendered" someone the other night. Face and voice of a man behind the desk, full sleave tatted arm, talked about being prior service. Later stood up and was wearing what looked to be like a long skirt. I don't think any offense was taken. We BS'ed about video games and stuff.

Long story short: being polite isn't progressive IMO.

 

[NorthDakota]

To be fair the Catholic Church is very wealthy.

Since when?

 

[ulukinatme]

Gettin' real sick and tired of all this winning.

 

[Blazers46]

Yeah. That’s kinda fucking gross.

I agree. But they can change my mind by donating to NDs NIL. I was reading how BYU is going to spending for at least basketball. Mormons got that cash too.

 

[Blazers46]

Since when?

I said Church not NIL fund…

 

[ulukinatme]

find out and I’ll answer.

Your statement is classic lib BS used to try and justify a claim of bigotry, racism, etc. If someone wants to be a man or a woman I don’t care. If a guy tells me he’s the POTUS, I don’t care but I’m pretty sure he’s not the POTUS.

You're free to believe whatever you want to believe, I'm all for that. Just don't expect me to join in the delusion.

 

[TorontoGold]

find out and I’ll answer.

Your statement is classic lib BS used to try and justify a claim of bigotry, racism, etc. If someone wants to be a man or a woman I don’t care. If a guy tells me he’s the POTUS, I don’t care but I’m pretty sure he’s not the POTUS.

It’s not lib BS, at all. Look at your peers, NoDak and Blazers, they can be big boys. Why can’t you?

You purposely misgendered someone, that is the literal definition of being transphobic. I gave you plenty of chances to correct it but you didn’t want to. So, no, you aren’t a victim.

I guarantee you that in the real world you wouldn’t purposely misgender someone, so why do it online? You feel like a big tough guy? Get a few laughs? What is it?

I know I know here comes the “I can’t be transphobic, I once had a trans person sell my wife lipstick once and I didn’t slur them!” You can save me that song and dance.

 

[Irish#1]

It’s not lib BS, at all. Look at your peers, NoDak and Blazers, they can be big boys. Why can’t you?

You purposely misgendered someone, that is the literal definition of being transphobic. I gave you plenty of chances to correct it but you didn’t want to. So, no, you aren’t a victim.

I guarantee you that in the real world you wouldn’t purposely misgender someone, so why do it online? You feel like a big tough guy? Get a few laughs? What is it?

I know I know here comes the “I can’t be transphobic, I once had a trans person sell my wife lipstick once and I didn’t slur them!” You can save me that song and dance.

WTF is wrong with you?

 

[Blazers46]

It’s not lib BS, at all. Look at your peers, NoDak and Blazers, they can be big boys. Why can’t you?

I feel like we have turned a corner.

You purposely misgendered someone, that is the literal definition of being transphobic. I gave you plenty of chances to correct it but you didn’t want to. So, no, you aren’t a victim.

I actually disagree here. I have called you names and you have called me names on this board. You have no problem calling out red necks or hillbilly’s that fit a certain mold. But Misgendering someone is transphobic? We really in a world calling someone she or he is worse than calling someone a dumbass? I think it’s pretty safe to say the left has weaponized words to make their arguments. The dictionary has even changed definitions so people can win liberal arguments.

I guarantee you that in the real world you wouldn’t purposely misgender someone, so why do it online? You feel like a big tough guy? Get a few laughs? What is it?

Conviction… morally and to truth.

I know I know here comes the “I can’t be transphobic, I once had a trans person sell my wife lipstick once and I didn’t slur them!” You can save me that song and dance.

Respect goes both ways. I have a coworker that refers to my wife as my partner and I know they are doing it to solicit a response. I think it’s rude… but if we have that conversation who gets fired? 2-3 weeks ago probably me…

**I will also add. The left is all about “we all have a different truth or reality” so we make up stuff up to fit their truth. But when someone on the right “has their own truth” it’s hateful. Irish1s truth is probably that he isn’t misgendering… therefore how can he be transphobic? I lean heavily on Irish1 side.

 

[calvegas04]

 

[TorontoGold]

WTF is wrong with you?

Ok - I’ll keep it short for you, what’s the point of purposely misgendering someone?

 

[calvegas04]

Gettin' real sick and tired of all this winning.