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[Dale]

I know it's important to be right but my point is immediate eligibility just became a thing. I think we will get to a point where we anticipate and expect it. It's naive to just say "Well it didn't happen last year". Years before last year really don't matter in regard to precedence.

I never said it won’t happen. But ND is different than other schools in that a sophomore at ND is usually slightly more inclined to stick it out and graduate than a sophomore at Arkansas. And how many of those guys that stick it out are suddenly future contributors and get the less class, graduate school bump in performance. I am not naive to what could happen. I also believe ND is fundamentally different in negative and positive ways than other schools.

 

[fightingirish26]

Bauman could still play three more years with COVID/redshirts. Don't see him transferring this offseason.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

 

[CanadalovesND]

Shayne Simon would have been helpful this year. Had a good year with Pitt.

He could have, but probably would have still been on the outside looking in. Bauer going down hurt, but imagine the uproar on here if Simon took reps away from Kollie.

But, it was good to see Simon have a role with Pitt this year. I always enjoy to see former ND players having success at other schools. Simon still has another year of eligibility left (2020 Covid, 2021 medical redshirt).

 

[Dale]

and here wo go….

 

[CanadalovesND]

With two years of eligibility left. If he's good, it would be better to keep him around for two years, then let him walk after one. Also, gives Minchey & Angeli time to develop and have an open competition in 2025.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

With two years of eligibility left. If he's good, it would be better to keep him around for two years, then let him walk after one.

He has NFL level tools. I think if he has a successful season in 2023 he will move on.

 

[CanadalovesND]

He has NFL level tools. I think if he has a successful season in 2023 he will move on.

It's possible, but less than two years starting experience? Most scouts and GMs are more in favour of a longer resume and experience. I know Mac Jones had one full year of starting experience, but he's more an exception to the rule.

 

[benneboy]

He has NFL level tools. I think if he has a successful season in 2023 he will move on.

He has almost no college experience and was wildy inconsistent in high school. I don't really see much difference between him and Buchner as far as potential. Don't view that as a bad thing, but he's also not a sure fire starter or proven commodity.

 

[Dale]

Agree that Card isn’t a sure fire lock of success. Texas probably should have gone to him though. He was more effective than Ewers.

 

[CanadalovesND]

He has almost no college experience and was wildy inconsistent in high school. I don't really see much difference between him and Buchner as far as potential. Don't view that as a bad thing, but he's also not a sure fire starter or proven commodity.

A proven commodity may be the better choice, but if ND get two years with a guy with a higher ceiling and arm talent than Pyne and Buchner, it may serve us better in the long run. A little high risk, high reward.

Card doesn't need to be the guy. The whole point of bringing in a better option is to have true, balanced offense with an upgrade at QB. Where we won't lose a game because we can't pass effectively.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

Agree that Card isn’t a sure fire lock of success. Texas probably should have gone to him though. He was more effective than Ewers.

That's how I feel about him. But if he gives his next school one good year on par with his 2022 (but over a full season of passing attempts), they're probably not getting a second one out of him.

 

[dublinirish]

 

[Dale]

 

[ulukinatme]

The portal is wild this season. ND absolutely has to change with the times and start taking advantage of it more if we want to stay competitive.

 

[Blazers46]

The portal is wild this season. ND absolutely has to change with the times and start taking advantage of it more if we want to stay competitive.

They will change, more ND players will hit the portal so they will be forced to adapt or play with 65-70 scholarship players. Either way, it will affect them.

 

[CanadalovesND]

They will change, more ND players will hit the portal so they will be forced to adapt or play with 65-70 scholarship players. Either way, it will affect them.

You believe that that is going to happen? If we are consistently bringing in 25 in each recruiting class to just maintain 85 scholarships (which we are usually a few above before the summer semester), we are looking at an extra 15 transfers on top of the near average 15 fifteen transfers we've been losing to the portal the last two cycles. You think 30 players are going to transfer out every year?

 

[NDRock]

He has almost no college experience and was wildy inconsistent in high school. I don't really see much difference between him and Buchner as far as potential. Don't view that as a bad thing, but he's also not a sure fire starter or proven commodity.

If ND had neither (let’s say Buchner was at UCLA) and both players hit the portal, who would you prefer? From what I’ve seen I’d easily take Card over Buchner.

 

[NDFAN2008]

Malik Washington WR from Northwestern may be a good add

 

[stlnd01]

If ND had neither (let’s say Buchner was at UCLA) and both players hit the portal, who would you prefer? From what I’ve seen I’d easily take Card over Buchner.

Sure, though I don’t think you can discount Buchner having been in the program for two years. They know what they have in him in a way they can’t with Card. (Even if we have seen more of Card in actual games).

That said, if Card wants to come here you absolutely take him and he and Buchner can compete for the job. Pyne too. It’s a good problem to have.

 

[Blazers46]

You believe that that is going to happen? If we are consistently bringing in 25 in each recruiting class to just maintain 85 scholarships (which we are usually a few above before the summer semester), we are looking at an extra 15 transfers on top of the near average 15 fifteen transfers we've been losing to the portal the last two cycles. You think 30 players are going to transfer out every year?

I’m not a mathologist but even +25/-15 isn’t sustainable.

 

[CanadalovesND]

I’m not a mathologist but even +25/-15 isn’t sustainable.

It's been fine the last two years, and will be again this year.

 

[Dale]

I’m not a mathologist but even +25/-15 isn’t sustainable.

Must have the same math that they use to calculate LSUs roster. We’ve lost like 30 guys total to the portal the last two years and the sky hasn’t fallen. In fact it’s improved the roster.

 

[SouthSideChiDomer]

Maybe not a bad option if we can't get a higher upside young guy in the portal.

 

[CanadalovesND]

Western Michigan transfer DL Braden Fiske quickly gains Power Five offers

"Ole Miss, Penn State, West Virginia, Mississippi State, Rutgers, they have all offered," Fiske said. "I'm getting a lot of calls. Florida State reached out, pretty much every school you can think of has called but those ones I listed are the ones that have officially offered."

247Sports learned that USC and Michigan State are two other schools who also have shown interest."

 

[NDFAN2008]

I think they should take 2-3 transfers along the DL if they can. Herron is from Indiana as well would be a good fit

 

[BilboBaggins]

The transfer market is going to do a number of the 85-man limit at a lot of schools.

Crazy NIL question... if these guys transfer to a school, is it possible for scholarship bench players to be effectively gray shirted and become a walk-on for a year and *coincidentally* recieve an NIL deal worth the price of tuition?

 

[CanadalovesND]

The transfer market is going to do a number of the 85-man limit at a lot of schools.

Crazy NIL question... if these guys transfer to a school, is it possible for scholarship bench players to be effectively gray shirted and become a walk-on for a year and *coincidentally* recieve an NIL deal worth the price of tuition?

How many benchwarmers are going to make enough in NIL that would cover the cost of a four-year tuition?

 

[ab2cmiller]

The transfer market is going to do a number of the 85-man limit at a lot of schools.

Crazy NIL question... if these guys transfer to a school, is it possible for scholarship bench players to be effectively gray shirted and become a walk-on for a year and *coincidentally* recieve an NIL deal worth the price of tuition?

I have thought the same. It’s ripe for abuse. What’s stopping us from giving RPIII NIL deal for $50,000 so that we can take his scholarship.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

The transfer market is going to do a number of the 85-man limit at a lot of schools.

Crazy NIL question... if these guys transfer to a school, is it possible for scholarship bench players to be effectively gray shirted and become a walk-on for a year and *coincidentally* recieve an NIL deal worth the price of tuition?

There are pitfalls to navigate but I think it could be done.

I don’t expect scholarship limits to exist five years from now. Honestly, I think that a federal court interpreting the recent SCOTUS decision would strike it down.