The boys of summer! (Baseball Thread)

[Jiggafini19Deux]

So this is a much more reasonable post for me,… I’m all for paying youngsters more and the Arte Moreno’s of the world can be investing much more, but the rays, reds, pirates of the world can not do what the Mets or dodgers are doing. Something needs to change, like four years ago.

Here’s an example of what I’d like to see that I suspect would result in more money for players while also fixing competitive imbalances,… a salary floor somewhere in the neighborhood of 130 to 150 and a cap in the neighborhood of 300. Obviously giving a hand full of years for teams to adjust payroll accordingly,… Something along those lines,… then we can talk about another major pet peeve of mine that I suspect will be much less popular,… the recent rules changes changes to base running, pitch clocks, extra innings and more,…

Most of these teams are not trying. It was one thing when the A's and Rays were competing with shoe string budgets during the early part of the Moneyball revolution. The big market clubs went out and hired those guys too. Andrew Friedman makes an error in player evaluation with Tampa, that's heavily magnified. He does it with the Dodgers, barely anyone notices.

The rule changes are what they are. They went with large bases, pitch clocks and other gimmicking to try to lure the rubes. Try marketing your players and reaching younger audiences the way they consume product.

 

[ACamp1900]

Most of these teams are not trying.

Then make them try while also preventing a group of the same exact three teams being the only ones ever realistically tied to every top free agent for the end of all time,… we can chew gum and walk at the same time

 

[IRISHDODGER]

IMO they should address the low hanging fruit first. The local TV revenue is out of whack b/c obviously a sports network in LA or NYC is gonna have revenue advantages over mid-sized markets. That’s less MLBPA vs Owners and more Owners vs Owners. Dodgers declared bankruptcy in 2012. Selig cut them too much of a break regarding their revenue share payments b/c the league didn’t want the Dodgers going under. In hindsight, it was too generous. Dodgers were a laughing stock up until 2020 so let’s not act like they’re all what’s wrong w/ baseball. Again, I can agree their SportsNet LA revenue is really what separates them from the rest. I don’t have a problem with reconfiguring how they divide that to level the playing field.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

 

[Pete]

Floor, no cap. Salary cap is a non starter.

Get a competent commissioner. Someone not connected to Selig, Manfred. Not a lapdog bootlicker for the owners either.

Shorten the 162 game regular season. Start in mid April, World Series champion by mid October. March to November in this American culture? Good luck. Attention span and intelligence of gnats.

International Players should be part of the draft.

Increase revenue sharing.

Reduce rookie control.

Leverage technology and marketing to actually let people know who your superstars are and introduce them while they are young. Embrace the third screen.

Involve the minor leagues and experiment marketing, rule changes, etc. during their season.

Bring back the double header, and not that day night double header crap.

 

[ACamp1900]

I fucking hate Arte Moreno,… but I’d still rather be a halo fan than a heartless ass doyer fan. No question

 

[IRISHDODGER]

I fucking hate Arte Moreno,… but I’d still rather be a halo fan than a heartless ass doyer fan. No question

Oh I’m well aware of your hatred of the Dodgers. I’ve been a diehard Dodgers fan since 1977. Got the fandom from my pops as he grew up a Brooklyn Dodgers fan (also where I got my ND fandom). I’ve forgotten more about the Dodgers than most fans know about their respective favorite team. Hell, I probably know more about Angels history than most Angels fans.

 

[ACamp1900]

I’ve been a diehard Dodgers fan since 1977.

Well no one is perfect, but you should probably have that checked out professionally,…

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Well no one is perfect, but you should probably have that checked out professionally,…

Funny you say that. I did just that and the professional said, “Dude you’re an ND football fan. No one is more hated than them. Being a Dodgers fan should be a walk in the park”. Didn’t even bill my insurance.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

For some of these MLB owners, winning isn't in THEIR top five. To suggest fans don't care is pretty ridiculous. That's a level of tone deaf and out of touch fully admitted out loud.

 

[irishff1014]

Can’t fix stupid. You already have been busted once. And you have more assistants than enough to make sure this doesn’t happen.

 

[ozzman]

So happy for Jason. He's the best in the biz. Such a shame the way the Sox ran him off. Hopefully that is rectified in the future and he can come home.

 

[slick7410]

So happy for Jason. He's the best in the biz. Such a shame the way the Sox ran him off. Hopefully that is rectified in the future and he can come home.

He's been such a joy to have on the Tigers broadcast. Happy to hear he'll still be on. He's solid on the football calls as well.

 

[Irish2155]

Looking forward to the WBC this year. The Hockey team still has me chanting USA, USA…

 

[KPENN]

It’ll be nice having ESPN away from baseball. Such a sad thing to say, their baseball coverage(as many things) used to be really good. I used to spend so much time watching Baseball Tonight. I wish the NHL had never gone back.

 

[irishff1014]

As a Braves fan I liked Mark Derosa as a player but he is a terrible manager.

This USA team has so much talent and to be so blah.

 

[Irish2155]

A lot of Red Sox having strong WBC outings. Roman Anthony is going to be a stud if he stays healthy this year.

Red Sox Players at The WBC: Boston Stars Making The Biggest Impact Before The Final | NESN

Roman Anthony, Wilyer Abreu, Jarren Duran and other Red Sox players have delivered big numbers and even bigger moments at the World Baseball Classic heading into the final.

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[Irish#1]

USA hasn't played up to their potential the entire tournament. It will be interesting to see if they get locked in tonight.

 

[NDVirginia19]

Holy shit Aaron Judge is absolute dog ass when anything is on the line, must suck to be a Yankees fan

 

[irishff1014]

Derosa should be forced out of baseball forever. The worst manager I have seen. What an embarrassment he is.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Do gas prices go down now?

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Do gas prices go down now?

No, they will continue to go up until everyone is in an EV. We must reduce our carbon footprint

 

[KMac151993]

No, they will continue to go up until everyone is in an EV. We must reduce our carbon footprint

Carbon footprints affect people of color more - cows are racist...ban cowhide balls.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

$3.59 to $3.95. In one day.

Fucking Mark DeRosa.

 

[MacIrish75]

White Sox dudes had a good showing in the WBC. Teel (before he got hurt) and Murakami had great showings and Antonacci showed some pop and promise.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

$3.59 to $3.95. In one day.

Fucking Mark DeRosa.

$6.60 in San Diego

 

[Irish2155]

Cincy Chili will be bypassed on 3/28 and 3/29. Boston Cream Pie on opening weekend this time…

It’s not often Boston comes to Great American. I’m there

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

$6.60 in San Diego

Perhaps there is good public transportation infrastructure to the ballpark.

Manny Machado is making $25.09M this season. He gets a bump next year to $39.1M for what I am going to guess are cost of living expenses. Cost and living being relative, I assume.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Perhaps there is good public transportation infrastructure to the ballpark.

Manny Machado is making $25.09M this season. He gets a bump next year to $39.1M for what I am going to guess are cost of living expenses. Cost and living being relative, I assume.

I can’t imagine being middle class and trying to live out there. Weather is phenomenal but man unless you’re wealthy, military or homeless; how do you make ends meet out there?

 

[Irish2155]

I’ll be in Cincy this weekend watching the Red Sox start the season. Just bought tickets to both Saturday and Sunday’s game.

On a related note. My college baseball team is on the road at Marian here in Indy on Wednesday. Think I’ll go check them out as well. I’ve hit a lot of home runs back in the day on Marian’s home diamond.