Spring 2023 - Current Projected Roster

[clashmore_mike]

 

[Giddyup]

Hmmm. Interesting. Well that was short lived.

 

[Fbolt]

Wow-All the best to him.

 

[Giddyup]

Wonder if they’ll try to recruit another wideout from the never ending portal.

 

[allenm5333]

Me thinks he may have saw Tobias, Deon, and some of the other young bucks and realized he wasn't going to win a job

 

[stpeteirish]

Me thinks he may have saw Tobias, Deon, and some of the other young bucks and realized he wasn't going to win a job

but he cited his mental health in his statement. And he's not transferring to another school.

 

[stlnd01]

Me thinks he may have saw Tobias, Deon, and some of the other young bucks and realized he wasn't going to win a job

If it was about not winning a job he could’ve transferred somewhere else. He doesn’t suck.

Sounds like he’s a mature young man, maybe with some struggles we don’t know about (like lots of people), who took one more shot at the game but decided he’s done/ready to move on with life. Respect.

 

[BoredIrish]

Any Interest in Josh DeBerry from BC?

Seems like Mickens offered him out of HS when he was at Cinci.

 

[T-Boone]

In terms of WR they are either going to be playing walk ons a fair bit (Salerno) or promoting the freshman which is a thing they traditionally don't feel good about doing.
Thomas
Colzie
Tobias
Styles? DB?
Tyree? RB?
Solarno
True freshman
Badly need transfers.

 

[NDFAN2008]

In terms of WR they are either going to be playing walk ons a fair bit (Salerno) or promoting the freshman which is a thing they traditionally don't feel good about doing.
Thomas
Colzie
Tobias
Styles? DB?
Tyree? RB?
Solarno
True freshman
Badly need transfers.

Even we take any more transfers it should be at safety. Styles will play WR this year, also Flores has been one of the best WR’s in spring so just because he’s a freshman doesn’t mean he can’t make an impact.

 

[T-Boone]

Even we take any more transfers it should be at safety. Styles will play WR this year, also Flores has been one of the best WR’s in spring so just because he’s a freshman doesn’t mean he can’t make an impact.

Doesn’t sound to me like there can be any confidence Styles is going to play WR from the press conferences.
I reckon safety/WR and maybe DL transfers should be on the menu.

 

[PutuporShutup]

In terms of WR they are either going to be playing walk ons a fair bit (Salerno) or promoting the freshman which is a thing they traditionally don't feel good about doing.
Thomas
Colzie
Tobias
Styles? DB?
Tyree? RB?
Solarno
True freshman
Badly need transfers.

On high passing offenses typically 5-6 wrs get all the catches … if we stay healthy our numbers are fine with styles as wr. They’re even better if one or two frosh are too good to keep off the field, I would think possibly playing over colzie.

 

[PutuporShutup]

Doesn’t sound to me like there can be any confidence Styles is going to play WR from the press conferences.
I reckon safety/WR and maybe DL transfers should be on the menu.

I took it as he knows offense good enough to cross train at db … the question is will he be a 50 snap wr or 30 snap wr with some ability to be backup db allowing Barnes to play a bit of safety

 

[allenm5333]

I took it as he knows offense good enough to cross train at db … the question is will he be a 50 snap wr or 30 snap wr with some ability to be backup db allowing Barnes to play a bit of safety

“Enhance” the roster. If a DUDE wants to come to Nd, take him. Don’t turn down good players

 

[stlnd01]

Styles is our most experienced WR. It seems nuts to not play him there, unless they have a high degree of confidence in at least one of the freshman. Playing freshmen at WR has not typically been our move but they're all already on campus, so the coaches know what they have, and maybe the new offensive staff has a different philosophy than the previous one.

Also at this point I'm assuming Tyree is a WR. Barring significant injuries in the RB room there just aren't enough snaps to go around, and he's better suited long-term as a slot receiver anyway.

So if we're looking at a two-deep of

Colzie-Thomas-Styles
Merriweather-Tyree-Salerno/Freshman

I'm actually feeling pretty good about that. We just need Styles to play to the level he's capable of, Merriweather and Colzie to continue to develop, Tyree to get the ball in space a few times a game.

 

[PutuporShutup]

“Enhance” the roster. If a DUDE wants to come to Nd, take him. Don’t turn down good players

I’m with ya, we just don’t have unlimited scholarships…. and there’s other positions needing help more like safety

 

[PutuporShutup]

Styles is our most experienced WR. It seems nuts to not play him there, unless they have a high degree of confidence in at least one of the freshman. Playing freshmen at WR has not typically been our move but they're all already on campus, so the coaches know what they have, and maybe the new offensive staff has a different philosophy than the previous one.

Also at this point I'm assuming Tyree is a WR. Barring significant injuries in the RB room there just aren't enough snaps to go around, and he's better suited long-term as a slot receiver anyway.

So if we're looking at a two-deep of

Colzie-Thomas-Styles
Merriweather-Tyree-Salerno/Freshman

I'm actually feeling pretty good about that. We just need Styles to play to the level he's capable of, Merriweather and Colzie to continue to develop, Tyree to get the ball in space a few times a game.

Colzie is the ? To me. I feel a frosh may eat into his snaps.

 

[NDFAN2008]

I’d cross train Styles he can be elite with the ball in his hands we all saw that. If anything I’d give him a shot at Safety but what he’s gonna go play corner which is already deep and waste another year then have one year left?

 

[NDFAN2008]

Styles is our most experienced WR. It seems nuts to not play him there, unless they have a high degree of confidence in at least one of the freshman. Playing freshmen at WR has not typically been our move but they're all already on campus, so the coaches know what they have, and maybe the new offensive staff has a different philosophy than the previous one.

Also at this point I'm assuming Tyree is a WR. Barring significant injuries in the RB room there just aren't enough snaps to go around, and he's better suited long-term as a slot receiver anyway.

So if we're looking at a two-deep of

Colzie-Thomas-Styles
Merriweather-Tyree-Salerno/Freshman

I'm actually feeling pretty good about that. We just need Styles to play to the level he's capable of, Merriweather and Colzie to continue to develop, Tyree to get the ball in space a few times a game.

I think Tyree is strictly WR, Diggs and Audric are too good plus you have Jadarian Price who’s gonna be a laid when healthy and GiBryane has looked good in spring. Where does Love play he’s too good to keep off the field as a Freshman. Maybe he gets a few Carrie’s but also plays some WR too

 

[allenm5333]

I’m with ya, we just don’t have unlimited scholarships…. and there’s other positions needing help more like safety

It always works out…

 

[StPaul_Irish]

Styles is our most experienced WR. It seems nuts to not play him there, unless they have a high degree of confidence in at least one of the freshman. Playing freshmen at WR has not typically been our move but they're all already on campus, so the coaches know what they have, and maybe the new offensive staff has a different philosophy than the previous one.

Also at this point I'm assuming Tyree is a WR. Barring significant injuries in the RB room there just aren't enough snaps to go around, and he's better suited long-term as a slot receiver anyway.

So if we're looking at a two-deep of

Colzie-Thomas-Styles
Merriweather-Tyree-Salerno/Freshman

I'm actually feeling pretty good about that. We just need Styles to play to the level he's capable of, Merriweather and Colzie to continue to develop, Tyree to get the ball in space a few times a game.

Don't forget that Greathouse has looked good too! I'm guessing he and Flores play a role on both ST and rotation. Maybe not in tight games, but enough to give guys a rest when the 1s need it.

 

[NDFAN2008]

WR depth is great and Cam Williams is a stud coming in

 

[pumpdog20]

Don't forget Styles is also a very good downfield blocker. That would be missed almost as much as his receiving skills with a switch to defense.

 

[Domina Nostra]

Don't forget Styles is also a very good downfield blocker. That would be missed almost as much as his receiving skills with a switch to defense.

That would be missed much more than his receiving skills...

 

[Old Man Mike]

This is just a reminder of who we have become in one area.
When Kelly joined the team for the 2010 season, the roster had so few OLinemen that we needed four (or more?) walk-ons to make a full OLine room. Because recruiting that year was so late as to be almost impossible in some areas, we could only get three (I believe) actual functional looking prospects to add in. One immediately killed himself before getting to campus (wish that was some kind of joke, but he fell off a building during a HS party. He was the gem of the class ratings wise too.) That left two frosh; one who never panned out, and one, Christian Lombard who did. A VERY THIN OLine room --- in the key top eight guys, for instance, was a young underdeveloped Mike Golic, Jr. He worked very hard and became an OK player by his senior year, but ....

Coach HH doesn't get here for a couple more years and the OLine room is still thin. Fortunately ZMart and his younger brother, plus Ronnie Stanley, and Chris Watt are around, so we (on the basis of firepower elsewhere) do pretty well. Thus begins the decade of OLine coaching and play that we have become so spoiled by, and, somewhat outrageously demand to be too perfect.

Well, recruiting and coaching have delivered, regardless of absurd crybabying by some fans. Notre Dame has begun to be called OLine U by many people in the sport. This is despite ignorant comments (by non-ND fans and commentators) that we have put "only 11" Olinemen into the League. And that is why I'm writing.

Notre Dame is unlike some OLine powerhouses in an old-fashioned way: Our OLinemen almost always stay the full four to five years of eligibility, and also, once you make the True starting five, you stay a starter. Because of that pattern, we have many less potential draftees over a decade's time than certain hit-it-and-leave powerhouses. Let's look at what has actually happened for ND OLine starters. From the beginning of Coach Harry's first settling in as OL Coach (say ten years), every ND OLine starter (I mean genuine best five starter) has either made an NFL roster or had a career injury ... except one as will be mentioned. Steve Elmer, Christian Lombard, Matt Hegarty, and (due to accumulation of less disastrous injuries) Colin McGovern were injury situations without which, in my opinion, would have made rosters had they wanted to pursue that. Hegarty came close anyway. I don't list Golic, because he was never the chosen starter and played (admirably) as next man up. The exception to the rule is Cain Madden, who came close with the NYG. I imagine that he would have succeeded if he had four years with Harry than just one. Everybody else from our chosen best fives makes the pros. Lots of them are three year starters here, keeping many good potential OLinemen on the bench.

The bottomlines are these:
If you can get on the field at Notre Dame, particularly under the coaching of Harry Hiestand, you can make an NFL roster.
But you better be good enough to make that best five sooner or later.
Notre Dame OLinemen are top-intelligent and become both top technicians, scheme understanders, and degree holders.

Our current OLine room is stacked three deep. That probably means 12-15 NFL potential guys. This new coach better be damm good to keep this thing going. Because ... Notre Dame IS OLine U.

 

[irishandy]

I'm sorry but, you were surprised ND went to the portal for a WR this season? That's wild

Yes, they brought in great receivers from the 2021 class, I think Tobias could have double digit TD's this season, and the early enrolled freshman that are there right now have had a decent spring. Moving Tyree to WR this spring will be a valuable move.

For me it is put up or shut up time for the 2021 receivers class.