SEC - Most Overrated?

[DomeX2 eNVy]

There is a lot of debate about how good the SEC really is in 2010. They get a lot of credit for playing each other, but what does that really prove? Most assume they are the best, so I broke down their out of conference performance to see.

Overall, the SEC was 41-9 (82%) out of conference. And that sounds pretty impressive.

However, only 40% of those games were against bowl eligible teams. In those games they were 14-6 (70%), which isn't too bad but not elite. Consider ND was 58.3% for reference.

They were 27-3 (90%) against the others with loses to Wake Forest, Jacksonville St, and Colorado. ND was (100%)

Of the bowl teams they played, 5 of them are in the BCS top 25: Oregon, West Virginia, Central Florida, Florida St, and Texas A&M.
In these 5 games, they were 2-3 (2-4 if you want to count Connecticut as a BCS team). The wins were #17 Texas A&M [Arkansas] and #22 West Viginia [LSU]. So by current rankings, their premier win was against the #17 team. However, at that time, A&M was mediocre and hadn't found their QB who was a WR at the time.

I don't know what you all think, but I think they are good, but no better than some other conferences. I'm not impressed with any of their wins.
And as I type, FSU is controlling S. Carolina, so that could be another bowl/top 25 loss if the second half holds.

I think betting against the SEC is a good play this year. Even Oregon over Auburn. The inital line was Oregon by 3, but the public moved the line to Auburn by 2 or so. This is just because so many people have bought into the SEC being great, you may be able to make some money going the other way.

 

[jason_h537]

SEC based their entire rep by playing themselves, then get knocked by the "weak" Pac 10. Oregon is gonna roll IMO

 

[The Polish Irishman]

Overrated!

 

[Riddickulous]

SEC based their entire rep by playing themselves, then get knocked by the "weak" Pac 10. Oregon is gonna roll IMO

I despise Cam Newton as much as anyone, but it's going to be close, IMO.


The SEC is overrated, but only to a certain extent. They are not by far the best conference in America, as we have been led to believe for so long (thanks, ESPN!), but they have won the last four national championships.

The Big 10 is up there. You have Ohio State, Michigan (floundering, but they will return to glory within the next decade), and Penn State (although this is in doubt after Paterno leaves, as their boy Al Golden went to Miami) as traditional powers. But then you have Wisconsin, who is quickly becoming an elite football program. Not to mention a couple of pretty good programs in Iowa and Northwestern's recent resurgence. And now you have Nebraska, who is horribly overrated but is an offense away from being a national power. Pretty damn good conference.

 

[ACamp1900]

I repped everyone in this thread up to this point.... the SEC is a great conference... but spare me on this BS about them being above and beyond... and I'll take it a step further... Ou was better than Uf two years back and just flat blew it... Ut was clearly better than Bama last year and Colt went down and the game was over (and they still came back and nearly won)... and this year Oregon is CLEARLY the better team,... and I fully expect Auburn to win... BUT

I fully expected ND to lose today too and BAM!!!! I saw ND win in person!!!!!!!!!!

so, hopefully the better team will win for a change and SEC fans can get a slice of humble pie... say we are among the best and you guys are good in the south... say we are the NFL's minor league and everyone else is a joke as you often do and you can go suck a fat one... play someone outside of the south in the reg season EVER without embarassing yourself and start talking........

 

[johnnykillz]

The SEC has ruined my college bowl pick'em. I'm blaming it all on them.

Bastards! Them, and Nebraska.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Putting the SEC as the "one, elite" conference in football, which is what many that should know better do, is just a classic example of groupthink. (I can think of a better word(s), but I would have to change characters to get them posted.)

I sent word of your original post to my son. He and I just had this conversation! He thinks the Big-12 is as bad with Oka St. being the only exception, and if you look at it the only reason the Pac 10 isn't in the same group, is because they didn't have enough bowl eligible teams!

I mean who besides the Big 10, some independents (hey, hey) were tough this year. Mid majors? Here is my whole point: fuC& everyone ~ even the announcers of our Sun Bowl yesterday got into it, expressing their "surprise" at certain bowl results, and calling ND's win over SCum a "come from behind win," implying the win was pure luck. We had an inexperienced, young quarterback playing on a fast track, in a big park.

They must not have watched the same game I did. WE DOMINATED Scum. Put it this way: we had as many turnovers against SC as Miami did against us yesterday, did anyone claim they mounted a major comeback? EF 'em. Notre Dame should be ranked between 18 and 23 on the final pole. Way a head of some of those worthless teams in the "elite" conferences!

If we had had the fifteen extra practices, wee’da beaten’ ‘em as bad as Miami, and have run Miami totally outa the stadium! I can’t wait till next year!

 

[Irish Man3]

0-3 in bowls to this point I believe:

Tennessee lost to UNC
Georgia lost to UCF
South Carolina lost to FSU.

Kentucky vs Pitt is a toss up.
Florida vs Penn State should go to the SEC.
Mississippi St vs Michigan is a toss up.

I live 5 minutes away from the University of Tennessee so I hear everyday how dominate they think the SEC is.

 

[johnnykillz]

0-3 in bowls to this point I believe:

Tennessee lost to UNC
Georgia lost to UCF
South Carolina lost to FSU.

Kentucky vs Pitt is a toss up.
Florida vs Penn State should go to the SEC.
Mississippi St vs Michigan is a toss up.

I live 5 minutes away from the University of Tennessee so I hear everyday how dominate they think the SEC is.

Bama should beat MSU?

 

[Irish Man3]

Yea they should. Good call

Very good chance the SEC ends up with a sub .500 record in the bowls.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Irish Man3
0-3 in bowls to this point I believe:

Tennessee lost to UNC
Georgia lost to UCF
South Carolina lost to FSU.

Kentucky vs Pitt is a toss up.
Florida vs Penn State should go to the SEC.
Mississippi St vs Michigan is a toss up.

I live 5 minutes away from the University of Tennessee so I hear everyday how dominate they think the SEC is.

Bama should beat MSU?

With all respect to you Johnny, don't be surprised to see a BIG upset in that one!

 

[johnnykillz]

With all respect to you Johnny, don't be surprised to see a BIG upset in that one!

I can't bet against Bama, but since I can't win bowl pick'em anyway, I would relish a MSU win.

 

[irishtrain]

IrishinSyria agreed with me earlier this month in a post that they are the best conference by a hair, they are also the most overrated conference by a lot. Media has a lot to do with this coupled with tv contracts. They know the game (not on the field) and play it well.

 

[Irish Man3]

Arkansas and Ohio State will be an awesome game.

Also forgot about LSU and Texas A&M. SEC should roll in that one.

 

[RallySonsOfND]

Bama 28 MSU 0 at half.

 

[FMA]

All I have to say is that the SEC has won the last 4 National Championships, maybe 5 in a row if Auburn wins....That's not overrated......Until other conferences knock them off this National Championship run, IMO they are the best conference in College Football, no matter if people like the teams in that conference or not, you have to give them credit..........

 

[Kingbish01]

This thread should be closed, it's the most ridiculous thread I have ever seen. I just hope some trolls don't come here and think all Irish fans are "nuts" Other than that Happy New Year guys! What a win yesterday!!!!

 

[MacadamianNut]

Nah it's all good brah

 

[jus10]

I'm a ND fan, first and foremost. But this thread is ridiculous.

SEC owns, end of story. Look no further than today, Mich/MSU games. And of course the amount of BCS Championships. SEC is the elite.

If the Irish joined next season, they would go be lucky to go .500 Sorry, but it's the truth. (Not to say they couldn't build up, but it would take some time, and cultural changes to the program).

 

[Kingbish01]

Nah it's all good brah

Lol

 

[phork]

I'm a ND fan, first and foremost. But this thread is ridiculous.

SEC owns, end of story. Look no further than today, Mich/MSU games. And of course the amount of BCS Championships. SEC is the elite.

If the Irish joined next season, they would go be lucky to go .500 Sorry, but it's the truth. (Not to say they couldn't build up, but it would take some time, and cultural changes to the program).

Florida nosed by PSU, the score was a lot closer than the final. Michigan's defense is god awful, not many teams couldn't beat them and MSU was labelled fraudulent when they got hammer fisted by Iowa. If you are going to gauge the Big10 on middling teams I present to you that the SECs all time record in bowls vs the Big10 is subpar.

 

[Anchorman]

Florida nosed by PSU, the score was a lot closer than the final. Michigan's defense is god awful, not many teams couldn't beat them and MSU was labelled fraudulent when they got hammer fisted by Iowa. If you are going to gauge the Big10 on middling teams I present to you that the SECs all time record in bowls vs the Big10 is subpar.

All time records dont mean much in judging current ability. The fact is that the SEC just wrecked the B10. Hard.

 

[phork]

All time records dont mean much in judging current ability. The fact is that the SEC just wrecked the B10. Hard.

The SEC wrecked UM and MSU.

 

[mpkennedy3]

Florida nosed by PSU, the score was a lot closer than the final. Michigan's defense is god awful, not many teams couldn't beat them and MSU was labelled fraudulent when they got hammer fisted by Iowa. If you are going to gauge the Big10 on middling teams I present to you that the SECs all time record in bowls vs the Big10 is subpar.

I agree with some of this, but even if PSU vs FLA was closer than score, Michigan def was bad, and MSU was overrated......PSU still lost, Michigan wasn't that good, and MSU wasn't that good. Meaning that all three SEC teams were better. You can't look at alltime records unless you are looking at the all BIG Ten vs. Sec all time. We are talking about which one is better now. This year after the bowl games it is clearly the Sec. Now you could make an arguement that the Big Ten could hold their own since the begining of the BSC since going into yesterday the Big Ten held a 16-15 bowl game record in the BCS era againist the Sec. I would still have to give the nod to the Sec based on their # of national championships though.